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dogglebe
Posted: July 6th, 2006, 10:18pm Report to Moderator
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I wouldn't call the breakfast scenario, here, a montage, but a regular sequence.  Montages should consist of disjointed events with some sort of thread connecting them.

In regards to using the character's name, or a pronoun, I'd use the character's name the first time and the pronoun after that if he/she is the only character involved.


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Just wanted to add a clarification to my original post. The example I provided isn't -as other posters noted- a montage. It wasn't meant to be. I picked a regular scene because I thought the name repetition would look more annoying in it than in a montage, and it would fit better to explain my point.

I thought it would be obvious I wasn't talking about a montage, but maybe I didn't choose the right words in my previous post. So, my appologies if said post generated any confusion.

I stand by my original advice to the original poster: Whether you're writing a montage or a regular scene, when only one character is involved don't start every sentence with his/her name. The scene will look repetitive and poorly worded.


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Balt
Posted: July 7th, 2006, 8:07am Report to Moderator
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But are you using the "MONTAGE" correctly?  I'd, maybe, go for a "SERIES OF SHOTS" it's just as effective, if not more.

Because more often than not I see people using MONTAGE where they don't even need to be.  
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Right.  SERIES OF SHOTS is more appropriate

Mention the Name once and then starts with verbs

-- takes the...

-- runs to...

-- cradles the...

Seems a little more interesting, don' you think?


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dogglebe
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Quoted from Balt
But are you using the "MONTAGE" correctly?  I'd, maybe, go for a "SERIES OF SHOTS" it's just as effective, if not more.

Because more often than not I see people using MONTAGE where they don't even need to be.  


The Burnout opens with a montage, a series of unrelated shots that just set up the general scene of the story.

Writing all the steps of John painting his house is not a montage, but a sequence of events.


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Is there a limit to how many scenes can be used in a montage? Also, what is the average length of time for a montage? Finally, can a whole scene be a montage, or only a part of it?

Thanks.
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George Willson
Posted: February 6th, 2007, 12:32am Report to Moderator
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A montage is a short collection of scenes that tell a long story in a short amount of time. A montage can be as long or as short as it needs to be. There's no limit there. What you'll want to watch out for is not to make it any longer than it needs to be. Consider why you need to do a montage as opposed to playing it out in scenes. These are typically done when lovers meet and we want them to fall in love quickly to move the story along, or think Mission: Impossible when the team is preparing their gadgets and such. It usually convers a mundane, but important, plot point in the quickest manner possible.

A montage can be a scene by itself or a portion of a larger scene. It all depends on what you're telling. I've seen both.


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Thanks George for your help on and off he forum with this question.  
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Alright i wrote my montage out, its 3 pages long though. I read the montage for rocky it's less then half'a page.
How did you create your own montage(maybe it can give me some insight on how to fix my own).

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Soldier,

Can you copy and paste it into here?  Might make it easier for some of us to take a crack at condensing it.


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Andy Petrou
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I wrote a montage in my OWC western short - "Miss Pearly May's Homemade Fudge" -

Script thread - http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1137886660/

scroll to the end of the script - http://www.simplyscripts.com/scripts/FUDGESCRIPT.rtf

Hope that helps!!

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dogglebe
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Quoted from Soldier
Alright i wrote my montage out, its 3 pages long though. I read the montage for rocky it's less then half'a page.
How did you create your own montage(maybe it can give me some insight on how to fix my own).


A montage should consist of several different shots with some theme to it.  The Burnout opens with a montage of New York City, starting with the touristy area and quickly moving to the 'darker side' of the city.

A three page montage is way too long.


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I think montages are longer then they are written, because they are written vagueley and on screen they are carried out longer. The minute per page rule doesn't apply to montages.

I'll post my montage, here is thebackround information.
my story is about child soldiers and how they are produced for war purposes. It takes place in the future. Remo is the main character of the story. In the montage i want to illustrate two things. 1. The pasage of time, the routine daily life of child soldiers. 2. That Remo is exceptionally gifted in the art of war.
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FAST PACED MONTAGE CONSISTING OF SEVERAL DAYS OF OPS

CUT TO:

EXT. DESERT, IN TOWN - Day
In a hellish battlezone the air is thick with gunpowder, sand and debree collison.

Whole squad((except Remo)is laying down fire at enemey soldiers. Up above the firefight Remo lays on a rooftop, eye through his sight. The laser of the weapon pointed at enemey soldiers, laser moving from enemey to enemey. Each time his gun recoiled, one died. It was clear Remo was a leading factor in this battle, he's facial exspression is calm, stern completley unchanged as if he was target practicing.
TIME CUT TO:
EXT. DESERT, BATTLE SCENE URBAN AREA - Day
Entire child squad equally next to each other, each battle prone, awaiting orders. Behind them stood Seargent Rouger. Incoming fire, richocheting bullets, added to the hellishness of the scene.

Rouger
(Points to two) You two move out to left flank (points to another) you right flank
(points to Remo)You search and destroy, the rest form
a defensive formation.

Immediatley the entire flock breaks apart. Remo rushes down an alley, behind a corner an enemey emerges.
BANG
Enemey go's down, Remo continues to move his pace unchanged. Remo turns another corner, Another enemey
BANG
Shot down from behind, he falls to his knees. Remo amerges from the alley into a vast open battle zone inbetwen the building complex's. Opposing Remo across from a median of pavement, three opposing soldiers are laying down fire to two of Remo's comrade soldiers.
The enemy soldiers have their backs faced to Remo unaware of his presence. Remo releases a brief burst of fire, ENEMEY#1 falls. ENEMEY#2, ENEMEY#3 turn around releasing fire at Remo(turning their backs to the other 2 child soldiers)Remo immediatley takes cover, dodging the fire.
ZACH and CHILDSOLDIER2 Release a furry of ammunition at the enemies. Enemey 2 drops.
Remo dives out from cover, picking out the final enemey with a precise shot.

TIME CUT TO:

INT. BUILDING

Remo
Arrrrhhhhhh!!!( charges enemeies point blank holding the trigger down from his automatic, killing four enemeies).

EXT. A ENEMEY BASE -
TIME CUT TO:
Remo planting an exsplosive against left side of building, on the right side of building child soldier Zach plants an exsplosive. Each run from the building.
CUT TO:

Remo and Zach running both next to each other, shortly behind them the building explodes from the side, and the rest of it implodes in a dust storm.

TIME CUT TO:



EXT. DESERT WARZONE
In a clearer more open setting

Remo has his back pressed against a grimy wall. He's breathing hard panting, palms against the wall. Next to him Zach, ChildSoldier#2, CHILDSOLDIER#3, and Seargent Rouger.

Rouger
(points at Remo, remote in hand)                              
Take it out

Remo nods, Zach smoothly passes' Remo a bright neon blinking device. Remo swings out from behind the wall into a open street, holding gaurded military posture. Moving down the center of the street is a large green tank moving down it.

Remo takes off charging down the street at an incredible speed, headed toward the tank. As Remo approaches the tank he fluidly ducks underneath the barrel, places the tip of his foot against the tank's armor, and propels his body up ontop of the tank. Throws the bright device inside of the cockpit, without breaking motion he hops off, running down the street.

Rouger who just watched this flicks a button on the remote in hand.
The tank explodes from inside. Shards of burnt torn metal flying in all directions.
Remo jogs back to his squad, face calm, no exspression.
He has no feeling, he has no opionon. This is what he doe's because he was raised to do it. This is all he knows.
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Soldier
Posted: April 16th, 2007, 6:07pm Report to Moderator
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Alright i just edited it, so it's bareable to read now.
However it's still 2 pages long, is that to long. Any clues on how to shorten it.
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