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Dreamscale
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 5:31pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Shelton




If you want to quote an entire post, just hit the quote button in the top right corner of the post you'd like to quote.  To quote only a piece, simply delete what you don't want to include, or use this formula.

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Replace the () with []


Like this?????

I think I got it!!  Easy...for now, until I forget again!!
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Shelton
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 5:32pm Report to Moderator
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Like this?????


No, that's totally wrong.  Do it like I did it.


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"I think I did pretty well, considering I started out with nothing but a bunch of blank paper." - Steve Martin
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No, that's totally wrong.  Do it like I did it.


Mmm I wonder if it's like this. BTW the bubble icon has never worked for me.

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eric11
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Okay let's see if I can quote people the right way now.


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Eric, we've had this discussion before...al the way down to your music analogy.  I hope we don't have to have it again.


I can't believe you remembered. I totally forget about it.


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We're really not disagreeing on anything other than the extent of how we feel and what is a bigger cause of this scripts problems.


True, I guess I am kind of stumped why so many people focus on content over form ALL THE TIME. I need to finish one of my scripts and post it up here.


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Are you saying that you think this script is a comedy?  Do you think it's meant to be taken as light hearted?  C'mon, look at the subject matter.
No I didn't think it was intended to be a comedy but you need to see pass the obvious. My point is art is subjective and so is reality.  Anyways I am not going to convince you on it so let's leave it at that.


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I don't think we need to be able to write, compose, or actually make music like Mozart to be able to write, compose, or make music.  There always will be lots of "great" music that is of a very simple nature, and that's the same with scripts and movies.  No one needs to write the next "Godfather" to be able to write an entertaining or commercially successful script or movie, right?  Good scripts come in the form of rehashed story/plot/structure all the time,a dn they can still be good flicks.
  Dreamscale, you and I will part on this issue too because IMHO mediocrity  isn't something writers should want to aspire too, but you are right it's a personal choice on how hard a writer will work. BTW show me one script that was rehashed from another script that was any good.



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Glad we are square on the final issue though![quote] me too.

[quote]PS  I can't for the life of me pull quotes out of other posts either!!!!!  It's driving me mad!!!!  AYYYEEE!!!!
I think I am getting the hang of it now.
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mcornetto
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 7:13pm Report to Moderator
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I think the structure was quite solid, and the antag/protag relationship was very clear.  Even the story itself was there.  I think the real problems here were the characters and how unrealistically they fit into the story.  

I think George needs to decides what audience he wants to write for.  Some of the themes like drug use won't fly with the TV movie crowd (at least not the way it is portrayed).  And theatrically, these wholesome kids that do bad things won't fly.  

And I think I just hit upon the problem I have with these characters.  None of them really have much depth or growth.  And while that could work in a comedy, I think it doesn't work in a drama.

  

    
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Grandma Bear
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Michael,

did you see my previous post?

It has a quote from George and his intentions for this film.  

And congrats on the third place!
I can't seem to get any traction over there...    haha


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Dreamscale
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 8:11pm Report to Moderator
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Shelton, what did I do wrong, or are you kidding?  I thought I did exactly what you and Bert said.

Hmmm, now I'm confused...again...
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Grandma Bear
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He's joking Jeff!  


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Dreamscale
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 8:24pm Report to Moderator
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Thank you Pia...I feel better now...a little, at least.

Are we moving on here or are we still waiting for more feedback on plot/story/structure?
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Grandma Bear
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I think we should wait until tomorrow morning at least before moving on... just in case someone else has something to add.  


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Sandra Elstree.
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 8:52pm Report to Moderator
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What if the Hokey Pokey, IS what it's all about?

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I think a good solution might be as I said before to change the world and thus change the characters.

If these characters belong to some kind of special society within the greater society, then maybe they don't use cell phones because their group doesn't believe in using them. Maybe this society is good on the surface. Like "Church of the Greatest People on Earth Who Never Ever Sin" type group, but inside the commune, are the dirty little secrets.

Just a suggestion for a way to get out of the same school bully mode with the bad kid being bad for no apparent reason.

Sandra



A known mistake is better than an unknown truth.
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slabstaa
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 9:10pm Report to Moderator
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I don't know.  Cell phones and texting play a major factor with any kind of teens.  Jenna, Kelsey, Laura and Brad would definitely be the type that would always be talking on the fone.  You could say it's "refreshing" that these characters seem pretty unimpressed with cell phone technology.  However, that being said I do like this idea a lot:



Quoted from MBCgirl


The key to changing this is to make it real....maybe add a cell phone call from Laura to Alex to tell him she's waiting at the park bench, so the time of the call is used to help clear him...and to prove his innocence when he answers and says he is on his way...


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mcornetto
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 9:14pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Grandma Bear

did you see my previous post?

It has a quote from George and his intentions for this film.  

And congrats on the third place!
I can't seem to get any traction over there...    haha


I saw that post.  I didn't quite mean it that way - what I meant was I saw mixed intentions in the script.

I can't believe I made it onto that list as third place.  It's difficult to get there.  Now I'm going to get a skull as a prize and they aren't ever going to be able to send that to Australia. Want a skull Pia?  
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Dreamscale
Posted: November 18th, 2008, 9:17pm Report to Moderator
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3rd place in what?  Do tell...

PS  I love skulls...
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Want a skull Pia?  

Of course!!!
It would go perfectly with the rest of my collection...  


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