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AngelofDeath
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:19pm Report to Moderator
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Ah yes Dreamscale....was wondering when you would show up.

Your story was weak, dude.  Again, the "twist" was not so much a twist as an explanation for the all the killing by Danny and Claire.  The whole crawls toward the "twist" with a little bit of humor, and not much character development.  But hey, I'm just one guy talking.

The attack wasn't on you as a person.  It wasn't even an attack, it was more of a challenge for you as a writer.  You've had one script here for like two years.  That, to me, seems odd.  Shouldn't you have written something else?  Again, just one guy talking?  You may have written several scripts since you posted Fade to White...how the hell would I know, I only saw the one, which is why I asked.  I thought it strange and wanted to clarify.

After reading your response to my post on you Scripts thread you've pretty much answered any questions I had....so, thanks for that.
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AngelofDeath
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:21pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Blakkwolfe
In considering the feedback of my last One Week Challenge excercise, nearly everyone of the comments given had something to do with story, characters or dialogue. (Maybe one about formatting, and even that was positive.)

I think the feedback (any feedback) from a source other than my wife (who refuses to read anything to do with zombies) is inherently valuable, like it or hate it, harsh or gentle-it's all helpful.


Absolutely agree with you Blakkwolfe.
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JonnyBoy
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films
You've only been here a minute and are effectively criticising everyone who takes time out of their day to review a script...people who have been a big help to others down the years as well.


That's the crux of it, really. If you decide we're not good enough for you, you'll be out of here. People come and go through here all the time, but it's the ones who stick around and help build the community that are the ones that really matter. I've only been here a couple of years, but I try and do my bit. There are people that do a lot more than me. But overall, there's a good mix of people here, all with different tastes, likes and dislikes. There's good feedback to be had here, just as long as you put it in perspective.

If you decide to stay, I look forward to seeing what you can bring. As I said, you have passion, and you can string a sentence together, which is a good sign. I don't neccessarily disagree with what you're saying, either. But get to know us before you tell us exactly what you think of us, eh?


Guess who's back? Back again?
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AngelofDeath
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:30pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Scar Tissue Films

Essentially all you are asking is this: "Are you people really good enough to justify me spending any time with you?".


Yes I am...and contrary to what it might look like, I like that fact that people back up what they are saying and doing.  I'm actually gaining more and more respect for each and every one of you who are sparing with me.  I don't want to waste my time with people who don't have any conviction, whether I agree or not isn't quite the point.  It's whether or not the person giving the review has the balls to back up what they say even when my temper flares.  Which it does often.  I try not to...but as you can see -- EPIC FAIL!

...again I apologize if I come off wrong I'm actually not that bad when you get to know me.  Anyway...

So far, I like all you assholes.  And I say that in a good way.  I let Dreamscale have it last night and he fired right back.  Which tells me that even if we disagree I know he's going it give it to me straight...something I like.  In fact so far my previous assessment of this site not being right for me is changing.
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Dreamscale
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:31pm Report to Moderator
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JB, don't be too sure about our new bestest buddy, Angel of Death, being able to string a sentence together very well.  WTF is this gibberish supposed to mean?

"The whole crawls toward the "twist" with a little bit of humor, and not much character development."

HUH?

As I replied to you in my post, I tried to answer all your questions...you answered none of mine.

BTW, where can I read one of your stunning reviews about story/plot/structure/characterization/dialogue/action/etc?  Have you spent more than 3 minutes writing an actual review with constructive criticism and advice?

You sure do talk a big game.  I can only imagine what you look like...I'm sure you're the kind who can only be the tough guy on your little old computer.  Am I right?  I thought so.

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AngelofDeath
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:40pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Dreamscale


You sure do talk a big game.  I can only imagine what you look like...I'm sure you're the kind who can only be the tough guy on your little old computer.  Am I right?  I thought so.



Not exactly...6' 2"  240lbs, 20 inches arms, four Black Belts, Certified Krav Maga instructor, Former Navy SEAL, licensed Bounty Hunter, certified Personal Trainer, certified Cross Fit instructor, 2000 overall winner in the Ironman All Natural Bodybuilding Competition, Bronze medalist in the 1995 Utah Summer games for Martial Arts...but what ever helps you sleep at night.

Anything else you wanna know?
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mcornetto
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:44pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from AngelofDeath


Not exactly...6' 2"  240lbs, 20 inches arms, four Black Belts, Certified Krav Maga instructor, Former Navy SEAL, licensed Bounty Hunter, certified Personal Trainer, certified Cross Fit instructor, 2000 overall winner in Ironman All Natural Bodybuilding Competition, Bronze medalist in the 1995 Utah Summer games for Martial Arts...but what ever helps you sleep at night.

Anything else you wanna know?


You sound hot.  Any chance you might be gay?
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AngelofDeath
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:45pm Report to Moderator
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Not remotely....but thanks for the compliment.
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Dreamscale
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:48pm Report to Moderator
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Ha, funny shit for sure...

I guess the only other thing I want to know is why feel like you need to tell us this crap?

That's seriously hilarious, dude.  Frickin' hilarious!

Where's Balt when you need him?
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AngelofDeath
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:50pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Dreamscale


"The whole crawls toward the "twist" with a little bit of humor, and not much character development."



...the whole thing...the whole thing......my bad.


Quoted from Dreamscale


BTW, where can I read one of your stunning reviews about story/plot/structure/characterization/dialogue/action/etc?  Have you spent more than 3 minutes writing an actual review with constructive criticism and advice?



I'll own that.  I haven't really been here that long, and I'm not very wordy when I don't have a lot to say or when it's already been said in a post prior to mine.
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JonnyBoy
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Quoted from AngelofDeath


Not exactly...6' 2"  240lbs, 20 inches arms, four Black Belts, Certified Krav Maga instructor, Former Navy SEAL, licensed Bounty Hunter, certified Personal Trainer, certified Cross Fit instructor, 2000 overall winner in the Ironman All Natural Bodybuilding Competition, Bronze medalist in the 1995 Utah Summer games for Martial Arts...but what ever helps you sleep at night.

Anything else you wanna know?


Uh-oh...it's Balt, back under a different name.

And if you stick around for long enough, Angel (seriously, give us a real name!), you'll understand that (poor) joke.

P.S. Option 2 for my Witty Reply was: he was talking about you, not your World of Warcraft avatar.

Thank you, I'm here all week.



Guess who's back? Back again?
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Grandma Bear
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:54pm Report to Moderator
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Yawn...........

Seriously, is there nothing new under the sun?


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AngelofDeath
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 7:55pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Dreamscale
Ha, funny shit for sure...

I guess the only other thing I want to know is why feel like you need to tell us this crap?

Because you were sure "I was the kind of guy who can only be tough on my little old computer.  Am I right?  I thought so."  Just answering your question, dude.

That's seriously hilarious, dude.  Frickin' hilarious!

Where's Balt when you need him?


I take it you're a little butt-hurt.  Which begs the question......did I strike a nerve?
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JonnyBoy
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Quoted from Grandma Bear
Yawn...........

Seriously, is there nothing new under the sun?


Hey, you asked for a brawl. Although this is more of a hair-pulling contest...

And in response to your question, let me point you to Ecclesiastes (screenrider would be proud).

What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun. Is there anything of which one can say, "Look! This is something new"? It was here already, long ago; it was here before our time. There is no remembrance of men of old, and even those who are yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow...what a heavy burden God has laid on men! I have seen all the things that are done under the sun; all of them are meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

So, no.


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Dreamscale
Posted: June 24th, 2010, 8:09pm Report to Moderator
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No, I'm not butt hurt, but I could take a shit, I guess.  Beef roast for dinner, which will most likely increase the chances of some release.

Hey Angel, can we see some pics of some of your trophies?  Maybe, you can flex those 20 inchers and snap a pic.  We'd all be very impressed, I'm sure, and if nothing else, Michael will be very happy.  
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