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Posted: November 25th, 2007, 11:00am Report to Moderator
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Inspired by the Australian election thread.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/index

If anyone else is game it would be fun to compare people's politcal leanings on the political compass.

I take the test every now and then, and my result always varies a bit. This time I got:

Economic: Left/Right: 3.88
Social: Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.46

Which is slightly more right wing than last year. Which puts me economically with Hilary Clinton but socially a world apart from all of the US candidates.



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i'm:  Economic Left/Right: 2.00
       Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.49

Not a clue what that means


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To quote the website:



If we recognise that this is essentially an economic line it's fine, as far as it goes. We can show, for example, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot, with their commitment to a totally controlled economy, on the hard left. Socialists like Mahatma Gandhi and Robert Mugabe would occupy a less extreme leftist position. Margaret Thatcher would be well over to the right, but further right still would be someone like that ultimate free marketeer, General Pinochet.

That deals with economics, but the social dimension is also important in politics. That's the one that the mere left-right scale doesn't adequately address. So we've added one, ranging in positions from extreme authoritarian to extreme libertarian.

Both an economic dimension and a social dimension are important factors for a proper political analysis. By adding the social dimension you can show that Stalin was an authoritarian leftist (ie the state is more important than the individual) and that Gandhi, believing in the supreme value of each individual, is a liberal leftist. While the former involves state-imposed arbitary collectivism in the extreme top left, on the extreme bottom left is voluntary collectivism at regional level, with no state involved. Hundreds of such anarchist communities exisited in Spain during the civil war period

You can also put Pinochet, who was prepared to sanction mass killing for the sake of the free market, on the far right as well as in a hardcore authoritarian position. On the non-socialist side you can distinguish someone like Milton Friedman, who is anti-state for fiscal rather than social reasons, from Hitler, who wanted to make the state stronger, even if he wiped out half of humanity in the process.

The chart also makes clear that, despite popular perceptions, the opposite of fascism is not communism but anarchism (ie liberal socialism), and that the opposite of communism ( i.e. an entirely state-planned economy) is neo-liberalism (i.e. extreme deregulated economy)

The usual understanding of anarchism as a left wing ideology does not take into account the neo-liberal "anarchism" championed by the likes of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman and America's Libertarian Party, which couples social Darwinian right-wing economics with liberal positions on most social issues. Often their libertarian impulses stop short of opposition to strong law and order positions, and are more economic in substance (ie no taxes) so they are not as extremely libertarian as they are extremely right wing. On the other hand, the classical libertarian collectivism of anarcho-syndicalism ( libertarian socialism) belongs in the bottom left hand corner.

In our home page we demolished the myth that authoritarianism is necessarily "right wing", with the examples of Robert Mugabe, Pol Pot and Stalin. Similarly Hitler, on an economic scale, was not an extreme right-winger. His economic policies were broadly Keynesian, and to the left of some of today's Labour parties. If you could get Hitler and Stalin to sit down together and avoid economics, the two diehard authoritarians would find plenty of common ground.


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I scored this;

Economic Left/Right : -5.50
Social Lib/Authhoritarian : -3.90

Which is about where Nelson Mandela and Ghandi were on the middle of the bottom left green square on the Libertarian Left...Mike Gravel in '08 (whoever that is...Have to look him up!)


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Getting much more left wing in my old-age I would normally call myself a conservative! - maybe need to start re-thinking that. Maybe getting more cynical the older i get.

Economic Left/Right: -3.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08

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Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

Welcome to the Left Wing.


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I can't possible be the most right wing here? I don't even consider myself right-wing outside of Denmark...

Any Tancredo fans out there who wanna make me feel moderate?


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I was kinda surprised how left I am. I consider myself a hard core capitalist but apparently I'm Gandhi reincarnated.

Go figure  


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Quoted from sniper
I was kinda surprised how left I am. I consider myself a hard core capitalist but apparently I'm Gandhi reincarnated.

Go figure  


I took this test last week and I'm there too, as is the party I voted for on Saturday. Perhaps they should have this test out the front of polling booths so people can determine which party represents their values.    

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I was surprised by my results:

Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.05

I never knew I was such a middle-of-the-road extremist.


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Here's mine.

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.82

No big surprise there for me.


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Economic Left/Right: -2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56

Thanks for posting this!  That was really interesting.  
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.28


No huge surprise.  I figured I'd be pretty close to dead center.

Per the usual, I didn't strongly agree/disagree with anything.  I'm very non-political.


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If this board is representative of anything in the US, the next American President is gonna be Dennis Kucinich. Which is okay, 'cause he's got a hot wife.

And I still can't believe I'm so friggin' right wing. I'm against the death penalty and want to oust Bush, for God's sake! I'm moderate! Moderate, I tells ya!

But seriously, I think the Compass is really useful in gauging where you stand, especially during election time. If everybody took the test before voting, and voted based on the results, instead of whatever populist 'answering-the-question-without-answering-the-question' campaign-rhetoric the politicians spew out, or personal sympathies, the political landscape might look a bit different.


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