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greg
Posted: November 21st, 2008, 4:21pm Report to Moderator
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In defense of mankind, the people "egging" him on could have been random folk who had come across this kid's stream by chance.  During my early teenager days of the Internet and Yahoo Chat when it was still like the wild west, I spoke to lots of kids who talked about killing themselves.  None of them actually did it.  None of them were even remotely serious.  They were just moody kids like we all were at one point who said something they didn't mean so they can get some attention.  

How much can you actually believe on the Internet?  The people "egging" him on could have thought it was staged or were simply calling his bluff.  Does that make it better?  Well, no.  But "egging" him on to kill himself?  I can't buy the sincerity of that statement.  There's always two sides to the coin on the Internets.  


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I don't have much pity for those who commit suicide.  Unless you're terminally ill, there's no reason for it.

The guy didn't like himself because he thought he was a failure.  Well, he proved it by killing himself.



I sort of agree with this.  I do have sympathy with folk who took their own lives because they felt they had no way out...but I agree that there's no real reason to do it.  IMO it's selfish and taking the coward's way out.  

And just by looking at this kid's picture, he didn't look like he had that bad of a life.  Big wide smile, nice shades(obviously for style cause it was raining out), nice clothes, and he's in an SUV.  And he commits suicide?  Cause he's, like, sad or something?  Really?


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George Willson
Posted: November 21st, 2008, 4:39pm Report to Moderator
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there was this movie i saw not too long ago, it wasn't great but it had a good point, it was like a website where u can watch someone die and the more hits it got the quicker the person got killed, very neat idea, but i would never want to have anything to do with someone who would enjoy watching another person die like those faces of death film.


Just to put it out there, that movie is feardotcom. Not an awful film, but definitely had its moments of silliness.


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Quoted from George Willson


Just to put it out there, that movie is feardotcom. Not an awful film, but definitely had its moments of silliness.


Actually, I think the movie Jordan is talking about is Untraceable with Diane Lane. feardotcom is the movie about the killer website where if you go to the website you die in 2 days.

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...but I agree that there's no real reason to do it.  IMO it's selfish and taking the coward's way out.

Even if you feel it's selfish or cowardly how do you get off saying there's no reason to do it? How do you know? Anyone who takes their own life has definitely got some serious issues and, obviously, if they thought that there was a way out of the darkness I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have taken the last resort.


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Quoted from sniper
Even if you feel it's selfish or cowardly how do you get off saying there's no reason to do it? How do you know? Anyone who takes their own life has definitely got some serious issues and, obviously, if they thought that there was a way out of the darkness I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have taken the last resort.


Serious issues?  Wow, I never met anyone with serious issues before.


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Posted: November 21st, 2008, 5:11pm Report to Moderator
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What's your point, Phil?


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Posted: November 21st, 2008, 5:13pm Report to Moderator
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To redress the balance I will make sure that the birth of my first child is streamed live on a web cam for all to see. I will not tell my wife this is happening to make sure it is fully realistic.

Of course I need to get her knocked up first.

Mmm.. maybe the conception should be streamed...
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Mmm.. maybe the conception should be streamed...

Only if your wife's hot, Murphy



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dogglebe
Posted: November 21st, 2008, 5:29pm Report to Moderator
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What's your point, Phil?


Everyone has problems.

Unless you're dying of a terminal disease--and it's going to be a lingering, painful death--suicide is not a solution.


Phil

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Murphy
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HaHa, good point. She thinks she is, but that does not really count. That's a no then. The world does not really want to see my beer gut anyway.

Seriously is a shame about this kid, I think kids today spend far too much time living their lives on the internet and playing video games that life just becomes a bit of a game to them. I think some parents really should be thinking about pulling the plug and kicking their kids outside the house sometimes.
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Coming from the land of suicides (Sweden) I know a LOT of people who have taken that route. So many in fact that I can't even count them all. It's always a tragedy. I wouldn't call it selfish at all. Sure it hurts the people left behind, but people don't commit suicide unless they are really really down and just can't face another day. It's called depression and can make people not think logically...

Teenagers have it particularly hard nowadays with enormous pressures on them.

A few years ago my neighbor's 16 year old son son shot himself out back by the pool. He was an A student, a super nice guy, didn't drink or do drugs, but his parents were immigrants from India and they demanded that he'd have all A's and not screw up this opportunity to succeed in this country.

He felt he'd failed his parents by not being "the best" in school.

Parents have to be very alert to their kids and tak notice whenever there's a change of any kind in their kids behavior. Very sad...


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Posted: November 21st, 2008, 5:51pm Report to Moderator
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If I was an opportunist guy, I would take advantage of this discussion to promote my book The Suicide, but unfortunately it wasn't translated yet.
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I agree with Pia about suicide not being "selfish". Depression is not something that can be helped.

~Zack~
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Posted: November 21st, 2008, 6:01pm Report to Moderator
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If I was the opportunist guy, I would tell people to read my short script--nevermind.


Phil
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dogglebe
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Quoted from Zack
I agree with Pia about suicide not being "selfish". Depression is not something that can be helped.


Depression?  Or just depressed?  People like to toss that word around.  Not being happy is not the same as being depressed.  I know people who were/are clinically depressed and they're all still alive.

At the moment, I can recall only one person who committed suicide and, despite the extreme circumstances surrounded his death, I don't feel too badly for him (his family, yeah, but not him).


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