Quoted from sniper Even if you feel it's selfish or cowardly how do you get off saying there's no reason to do it? How do you know? Anyone who takes their own life has definitely got some serious issues and, obviously, if they thought that there was a way out of the darkness I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have taken the last resort.

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Quoted from dogglebe Serious issues?  Wow, I never met anyone with serious issues before.

Everyone has had serious issues at one point or another.  My family has dealt with plenty of BS and no one has ever thought of killing themselves as a way out.  And all of those issues worked out in the end anyway.  Is there never really a way out?  Seriously.  The kid who's subject of this thread was frickin' 19.  He was at the end of his road already?

Quoted from dogglebe, in no particular order I would tell people to read my...script..it's going to be a lingering, painful death

Ohhh...I would not wish that on anyone.

Quoted from bert Ohhh...I would not wish that on anyone.

That's funny.  I'm suddenly thinking of one person I wish would commit suicide.


Phil

Quoted from dogglebe That's funny.  I'm suddenly thinking of one person I wish would commit suicide. Phil

And it's because they don't know how to resize pics in their sig.  Right?  Right?

Make that two.


Phil

Well, I love those little pug pups.


but as for getting back to the subject...

I've known a couple people (kids really) who have committed suicide...
and it's a damned shame.

Both of them were preventable, and both of them could have been murder, too.
(One had jewelery missing, and the other one happened in county jail).

Some teens think things are awful right now (at the second) with no thought about tomorrow. The pain blocks everything.  

Tomorrow or the following day could be one of the best days of your life. You have to wait and see.

I was the neighborhood mom. I listened to these troubled kids when their parents were too busy.

I think we could all do a little something to stop this if we really cared.

I think a smile and a hey how you doin' may be all a sad-faced person may need to help turn their day around for the better.

Cindy

Gotta back my man Rob in this one. Saying the only legit reason for suicide is a terminal illness is pretty silly to me.

Ever seen Whose Life is it Anyway?

But really if you wanna kill yourself, if you really thought it through, if you really feel like life's not for you, then fair game. Nobody chooses to be put in this world. But you should be able to choose if you wanna leave. Is it selfish? Well of course it is. But that's a stupid argument. You know what else is selfish? Going to college. Getting a new TV. Travelling. Getting drunk. Praying. Plugging your script in unrelated threads. Since when is doing something selfish a cardinal sin? Most of what we do, we do to help ourselves. The really selfish thing here would be to ask someone in pain to stay alive because him dying makes you uncomfortable.

I'm not advocating that people who feel down or are moody swallow a bunch of pills because it's convenient. Suicide should'nt be a solution to a momentary situation of a spur of the moment thing. I'm just saying ultimately, if someone truly wants to die (and I'm not talking about the kid in this case) they will find a way.

Teenagers are impressionable and sensitive creatures and should take some time to reflect before they decide life is too horrible. Wait til you're 21, and if you still wanna do it, then at least you gave it a shot. Until then you should try some alternatives...like moving to French Polynesia or starting a marching band, or learning Japanese or writing a script.

I mean, really, you have no idea how big the world is. The things that are out there. Phew. It takes your breath away sometimes.

Merry Christmas to every last one of you!

Quoted from Death Monkey But really if you wanna kill yourself, if you really thought it through, if you really feel like life's not for you, then fair game. Nobody chooses to be put in this world. But you should be able to choose if you wanna leave. Is it selfish? Well of course it is. But that's a stupid argument. You know what else is selfish? Going to college. Getting a new TV. Travelling. Getting drunk. Praying. Plugging your script in unrelated threads. Since when is doing something selfish a cardinal sin? Most of what we do, we do to help ourselves. The really selfish thing here would be to ask someone in pain to stay alive because him dying makes you uncomfortable.

Does going to college, getting a new TV, etc. leave your family and friends with deep feelings of guilt?  Comparing suicide to your other examples is plain stupid.  Killing yourself creates serious ramifications which the deceased doesn't have to deal with.


Phil

Quoted from dogglebe Killing yourself creates serious ramifications which the deceased doesn't have to deal with.

I agree. So someone thinks they have problems and the only way out is to kill themselves. This then just leaves a whole load of issues for the people left behind, parents, family and friends. All of whom will be left devistated and somewhat feeling guilty they never got the chance to offer help and support. Suicide is such a selfish thing to do, and to do it for entertainment, which this was, is even worse.

Quoted from alffy Suicide is such a selfish thing to do, and to do it for entertainment, which this was, is even worse.

Or for attention.

Lemme know when I can mention my script....


Phil

What script...lol

Quoted from dogglebe Not being happy is not the same as being depressed.

I'm not happy when I lose in a video game, but that doesn't make me depressed.

~Zack~

Quoted from alffy What script...lol

Well, since you asked....

Actually, my script covered the motivation of Abraham Biggs Jr's 'fashion of death.'  

And his wmyspace is still up:  http://www.myspace.com/forgettingthepastagain.  

I guess leaving comments at this point would be tasteless, eh?


Phil

It makes *me* depressed, specially when my head gets chainsawed by a Ganado in RE 4. Does that mean I'm mentally-unstable?

Kidding! Don't go calling any mental institutions on me.

Seriously though, not all people deal with their issues the same as others. Some like the lazy, easy ways out (even when they're not depressed) and others don't. It's as simple as that.

Suicide is one thing. Suicide on webcam is another. It's attention seeking bullshit, equally as bad as people encouraging it. Retardation on both sides.

As far as suicide itself goes, I think it's hard to say. It's easy to assume someone has the same problems as you do and just has a lower threshold for stress/pain/whatever you want to call it but that's not always the case. I read an article the other day about a man who committed suicide after being evicted from the last house on an entire block scheduled to be torn down (with a chainsaw, no less). Obviously, everyone here has a home of some kind so unless you've been homeless before, there's not much room for anyone to talk.

Nevertheless, I've always found it an interesting topic, which is why I've written three scripts about it. There's so much conflicting things about it, it's not always easy to figure it all out.