Quoted from screenrider I won't respond based on what I "think" but only by what I've read in the Bible.   Fact: there is a devil.  Fact: he's alive and well.  Fact: he hates mankind to the core.

Normally, I would be beating you over the head with your own Bible for saying this.  But I won't. I will say this:  the Bible is a book of stories that is used as a basis for many religions.  It is not based on facts.  Science has disproven a lot of the Bible with the most obvious proof (scientific fact) dinosaur bones.

I was religious when I was young, and even studied for the priesthood for several years.  I'm not saying all this from an outsider's POV.  At a certain point in my life, I realized that the clergy was not for me.  Later on, I realized that religion was wrong.  It was something created by man to pacify men.

When it comes to religion, Mike, you don't have facts; you have faith.

And the two are like oil and water.


Phil

Quoted from dogglebe When it comes to religion, Mike, you don't have facts; you have faith.

You're absoluetly right, Phil.  I don't have facts.  I only have faith, and the Bible.   And don't get me wrong, as much as I'd like to, I know I can't convert you.  Only God can change our hearts and open our eyes, which is exactly what He did for me.  And still doing.  It's a 24/7 job.

I'm lucky from the standpoint that I used to be a hardcore methamphetamine addict.  One night I encountered what I can only descibe as demonic activity.   Taking Jesus at his word, was a no-brainer after that harrowing ordeal.   Unfortunately guys like you are a tougher nut to crack.  BTW, are you gonna donate 10.00 to the Haiti disaster relief fund or not?

I prefer not to advertise my contributions to any charities.  I've taken flack for revealing such info in the past (not here).


Phil

Quoted from screenrider Unfortunately guys like you are a tougher nut to crack.

See, this is where it gets interesting.

Michael, why do you even feel there's a nut to crack? Why does it matter to you whether this or that person believes in God? If it's a good person that lives his or her life by certain moral and ethical standards, then what does it matter?

Quoted from sniper Michael, why do you even feel there's a nut to crack? Why does it matter to you whether this or that person believes in God? If it's a good person that lives his or her life by certain moral and ethical standards, then what does it matter?

It is the responsibility of the believers of many religions to recruit.  I know people who are required by their congregation to go door-to-door.

Phil

Quoted from dogglebe It is the responsibility of the believers of many religions to recruit.  I know people who are required by their congregation to go door-to-door.

That's was the feeling I got too but I wanna hear it from Michael.

Pooh -- see how this always happens with religion?  This thread is officially derailed.

Anyways, I am not gonna spend my time monitoring 2 threads on this topic.

I don't even want to monitor 1 thread on this topic, quite frankly -- but if you must -- take it here:

http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-Chat/m-1263498334/

Don't make me lock this well-intentioned thread, which I have now retitled to reflect APPROPRIATE discussion.

Quoted from sniper Michael, why do you even feel there's a nut to crack? Why does it matter to you whether this or that person believes in God? If it's a good person that lives his or her life by certain moral and ethical standards, then what does it matter?

It matters to God because He loves you.  He clearly says it in the the Bible, there are none righteous, not even one.  All of our righteousness is but filthy rags in His sight.  All of us have sinned and fall short the glory of God.  That's why He sent Jesus to die on the cross as a propitiation for our sins.  John 3:16-18, sums up the rest.  You can accept it or reject it.  It's your choice.  


http://www.bing.com/videos/wat.....7FAB4D68BB8476D0B241

Quoted from bert Anyways, I am not gonna spend my time monitoring 2 threads on this topic.

So you changed the name to the Hurricane Relief Fund?

What hurricane?


Phil

Quoted from dogglebe So you changed the name to the Hurricane Relief Fund? What hurricane? Phil

Haha -- I am at work and very distracted.

I am an idiot.

Call Pat Robertson's "700 Club" @ 1 (800) 759-0700 to give your opinion of his comments about Haiti. It costs them about $1 to pick up each 800 call. Cut & paste everywhere, a million calls costs them a million dollars, send it in a message to all your FB friends.


Phil

Quoted from dogglebe Call Pat Robertson's "700 Club" @ 1 (800) 759-0700 to give your opinion of his comments about Haiti. It costs them about $1 to pick up each 800 call. Cut & paste everywhere, a million calls costs them a million dollars, send it in a message to all your FB friends. Phil

Phil,
You're nothing but a rabble-rouser.   Okay, so Pat Robertson screwed up.  But you're  comments are equally as pathetic.   You're far more concerned about throwing stones at PR than you are helping Haiti.  Way to go, sport.  You might as well go stomp on some kittens while you're at it.  

Galations 6:7.

The Devil himself has replied to Pat Robertson's comment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SW0DJkC5JY


No Pat Robertson didn't just screw up. Screwing up would be like mistaking the earthquake for a hurricane. Calling the hurricane the ill effects of some long ago deal with the Devil is beyond moronic. It's incredibly insensitive and he should be called out on it.

Quoted from screenrider Okay, so Pat Robertson screwed up.  But you're  comments are equally as pathetic.

My comments aren't preventing people from donating to charities.  Reverend Dickhead's comments are.  His followers will believe that the Haitians are evil and will not help out in anyway.  Thinks of how much his followers could've donated if he didn't speak so stupidly.


Phil

They probably wouldn't donate anyway, though.