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Posted: January 13th, 2010, 7:09pm Report to Moderator
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Not to brag obviously, but I just sent 10.00 to the Red Cross International Response Fund and I'd like to challenge all the other SS screenwriters to do the same.  How many of us are there on this site?  If everybody gave something it might make a nice little chunk of change.  Just a thought.

International Response Fund info:

You can help the victims of countless crises, like the recent earthquake in Haiti, around the world each year by making a financial gift to the American Red Cross International Response Fund, which will provide immediate relief and long-term support through supplies, technical assistance and other support to help those in need. The American Red Cross honors donor intent.

If you wish to designate your donation to a specific disaster, please do so at the time of your donation by mailing your donation with the designation to the American Red Cross, P.O. Box 37243, Washington, D.C. 20013 or to your local American Red Cross chapter. Donations to the International Response Fund can be made by phone at 1-800-REDCROSS or 1-800-257-7575 (Spanish) or online at www.redcross.org.

God bless


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I think Haiti is a good place to send some money right now.


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Most definitely we will be donating to the local chapter that can get the funds over to Haiti.

This is a solid reminder for all of us that we should take nothing for granted.

At any time it can be us. It will be us in time. Maybe not an earthquake, maybe we finally have that stroke, or our plane crashes....



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Screenwriter,

Revelation 19:11
I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war.

Beautiful scripture man. In times of tragedy such as what we are seeing right now overseas, It  is important to remember and understand that there is someone in charge.

Some may argue if there is a loving lord, then why does he let this happen? Look to the words above- Faithful, True and justice. Natural disaster is never an easy thing to witness but in the midst of these nightmares, miracles surface, stories come to light of people stepping to the edge of death to help their fellow man. It is in this time, God shows up.  

I will give what I can and encourage those who have extra to do so as well because God works through the resources he has given us to prosper with and in the time of need, that is money.
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Screenwriter,

Revelation 19:11
I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war.

Beautiful scripture man. In times of tragedy such as what we are seeing right now overseas, It  is important to remember and understand that there is someone in charge.

Some may argue if there is a loving lord, then why does he let this happen? Look to the words above- Faithful, True and justice. Natural disaster is never an easy thing to witness but in the midst of these nightmares, miracles surface, stories come to light of people stepping to the edge of death to help their fellow man. It is in this time, God shows up.  

I will give what I can and encourage those who have extra to do so as well because God works through the resources he has given us to prosper with and in the time of need, that is money.


There is None Else Beside Him

And all things come from God

Within ourselves, we can discern this and the two polarities are given to Man that he will not be a mere robot. Indeed, it was Man's request that it be this way.

It completely sucks and we sometimes wish that we had not been born at all. This is true, but we must all hang on to each other and recognize the beauty in the person next to us and to be thankful for their seeming negative qualities.

What we are seeing is really only a mirror reflection.

I think we need to put our thoughts and emotions as well as our money into Haiti, this place on the planet that had too much trouble already without the addition of an earthquake.

It's 2010 and we need to wake up.

Sandra




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Quoted from Sandra Elstree.
Most definitely we will be donating to the local chapter that can get the funds over to Haiti.


Keep in mind that, when you donate to the Red Cross, it won't be using all o the money to help Haiti.  They keep a war chest for the next disaster.

This was learned after 9/11.


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Keep in mind that, when you donate to the Red Cross, it won't be using all o the money to help Haiti.  They keep a war chest for the next disaster.

This was learned after 9/11.


Phil



Thanks Phil,

I'm just trying to figure out how we can spread the money around.

I know this planet has enough to support everyone, but we need a new system and we need to have everyone working to their full potential, utilizing their individual gifts and abilities.

Sandra



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Sorry, not to get off topic but I have this question that's been bothering me forever.

I hear people say that God has a plan for everyone. So, I always wonder... what about a person who commits suicide?

After all, I've heard suicide is a sin and equals automatic Hell.

So, was God's plan for you to be sentenced to Hell for no particular reason?

In case it's not obvious, I'm a athiest, so I always had these questions about Christianity (and other religions. They all have their flaws, to me) and how it seems like no one can give a deifinitive answer.

I asked a priest this same question one time. He responded, "Are you contemplating suicide?" It seemed like he tried to avoid the question so I left.

But, anyway, back on topic. If I had a job right now, I'd send some money over there, but only to one of those causes where at least 85% is given to the country. I say 85, because 15% of any type of money received during a disaster is plenty to keep the foundation alive.


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I hear people say that God has a plan for everyone. So, I always wonder... what about a person who commits suicide?


Really depends on who you're talking to.  There are some faiths that believe in God's plan (predestination...Calvinism?) and others that believe in free will.  There's also a combination of the two, where a certain path may be planned, but based on your decision it can branch off one way or the other.


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Quoted from Sandra Elstree.


We need a new system and we need to have everyone working to their full potential, utilizing their individual gifts and abilities.
Sandra


Might be a good premise for the next Screenwriting Excercise Game.  Eight dysfunctional friends in a third-world country get caught in the middle of a natural disaster and end up rescuing kids from an orphanage or something.  We could sell it to Hollywood and donate the $$$ to the Haiti disaster relief fund.  

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I hear people say that God has a plan for everyone. So, I always wonder... what about a person who commits suicide?


The only logical explanation is that God wanted them to die. Read the Old Testament, God basically wants everyone to die.
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The only logical explanation is that God wanted them to die. Read the Old Testament, God basically wants everyone to die.


If God didn't want us to die, He would make us immortal.


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The only logical explanation is that God wanted them to die. Read the Old Testament, God basically wants everyone to die.


Matt, you call that logical?  if God wanted you dead, you'd be six feet under as we speak.  The Lord is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.  1 Peter 3:9.

Mr. Blonde you pose an interesting question.  My only response is Romans 11:33. "Oh the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God, how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out. -- On the other hand there's Romans 1:20.  You can google that one.  Bottom line, all the answers are in the Bible, IMHO.  In the end it's all about "faith, hope and love".
...unless you're a sock puppet.  


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I think Haiti is a good place to send some money right now.

Funny, I usually send mine to the Cayman Islands.



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If God didn't want us to die, He would make us immortal.

Phil


He did, and then we ate from the tree of life and that ended the whole shebang, so to speak.  Pat Robertson says the quake is due to a pact the Haitian's made with the devil to escape French rule, and it may be a 'blessing in disguise', so that they can now turn to God during their rebuilding.  The man is a nut.

By all means, send what you can to help out those poor, and I do mean poor, people.


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Funny, I usually send mine to the Cayman Islands.


Yeah, that's hilarious, Rob.

You'll laugh your head off over this one...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/34857446#34857446
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Yeah, that's hilarious, Rob.

Thank, you. I'm here all week.


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To Bert, can I get this in a different thread, please? See, I feel a sudden urge to talk about this, but this thread is very good while being meant for something else entirely. Thank you. =)


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Really depends on who you're talking to.  There are some faiths that believe in God's plan (predestination...Calvinism?) and others that believe in free will.  There's also a combination of the two, where a certain path may be planned, but based on your decision it can branch off one way or the other.


Hmm... I wonder what exact faith that priest was, then? I guess I just sort of figured that if all those slightly differing faiths were all branched from Christianity, that the result of that particular question would remain the same.


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The only logical explanation is that God wanted them to die. Read the Old Testament, God basically wants everyone to die.


Oh, I have. I prefer that version to the New Testament. The New Testament seemed very plain to me, like it really had no style. In the Old Testament, they gave God a pretty cool character. He's vengeful, angry, sadistic and a bit crazy and he believes in fear over respect. That's the one thing I disagree with, though. I always liked the idea of respecting someone rather than fearing them.

However, if you follow the Old Testament, that response makes sense. The Rapture didn't have a specific date, did it? I don't think it did, but I read it a few years ago, so my mind's kind of fuzzy on that.

I'm sorry. I keep getting this thing off-track, but I really need to know this one. Am I right in saying that, at the minimum, about five billion people believe in the wrong faith? Because it's established, just in the basic fundamentals, that every religion cannot be right.

To start with, you have monotheistic versus polytheistic.

Then, you have Old Testament (Judaism) and New Testament (Christianity).

After that, you have the different types of the worshipped. You've got Animism (believing that everything has a spirit), Panentheism (believing that God exists in every part of nature), Pantheism (believing that the universe and God are the same) and last, you have Nontheism (not believing in a personal God).

Then, you have all the different types of religion. And, being that they're different enough to be their own religion, then they differ enough to be incorrect. Just to name a few:

Christianity.
Islam.
Judaism.
Buddhism.
Hinduism.
Sikhism.
Confucianism.
Taoism.
Neopaganism.
New Age.
African.
Chinese.
Voodoo.
Native American.
Shinto.
Paleolithic.
Egyptian.
Celtic.
Greek.

I mean, there's bunches and bunches of religions out there. I like to believe one of them is correct, but what if nobody has created the religion that is an accurate depiction of a Creator? And, I swear to God, if anybody mentions Scientology, after this...

So, in the end, every religion passes on their religion as Hoyle. But, only one can be right. Rather than fighting about it, I always like to look through different religions and see if there's something in it that I can believe. It's kind of fun. You write down a bunch of religions on pieces of paper, put them in a hat and pull one out. Then, you study that religion for the day.

But, like I said, please move this to its own thing so that it doesn't clog up this post. Thank you.

-Sean


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Thank, you. I'm here all week.


Don't be so sure about that, Rob.
James 4:14 says "You do not know what will happen tomorrow.  What is your life? It is a vapor that appears for a little while and then vanishes away".  
You never know when God's gonna punch your ticket.  It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. Hebrews 9:27.




Quoted from Mr. Blonde
I always like to look through different religions and see if there's something in it that I can believe.
-Sean


A good place to start----> John 3:16-18.


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To Bert, can I get this in a different thread, please? See, I feel a sudden urge to talk about this, but this thread is very good while being meant for something else entirely. Thank you. =)



While trying my hardest not to sound like a dick -- and so often I do not even try at all -- we generally try to steer clear of those kinds of discussions, as they have a tendency to end poorly.

There are few groups of people more vocal than writers -- and between those who are totally adamant and earnest -- and those just seeking to be trolling smart-asses showing how clever they are -- threads of that sort seem to always go down in flames.

So while I will decline to start a unique thread for that discussion -- I would not prohibit you from doing so on your own -- but I would also encourage you to consider having a religious discussion on a board devoted to such topics.

It fear it might even be too late for this thread.

What do you say, screenrider?  Can this thread be "saved"?


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"If God didn't want us to die, He would make us immortal. - Phil"


Who said He is He, Phil? Maybe He is She!
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Quoted from bert

I fear it might even be too late for this thread.
What do you say, screenrider?  Can this thread be "saved"?



Anything is possible.  Just to reiterate for anyone who's coming in late on this thread, my intention was to challenge fellow screenwriters to match my $10.00 pledge to the Red Cross specifically designated to the Haiti Disater relief fund. So far I count three other screenwriters, Pia, Sandra and Ledbetter.  C'mon people, we can do better than that.  It'd be nice to have a way to keep track of our contributions to this cause.  If you've donated something maybe leave an "X" on this thread or something.

It'd be  great to see 500 X's by next Friday.






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While trying my hardest not to sound like a dick -- and so often I do not even try at all -- we generally try to steer clear of those kinds of discussions, as they have a tendency to end poorly.

There are few groups of people more vocal than writers -- and between those who are totally adamant and earnest -- and those just seeking to be trolling smart-asses showing how clever they are -- threads of that sort seem to always go down in flames.

So while I will decline to start a unique thread for that discussion -- I would not prohibit you from doing so on your own -- but I would also encourage you to consider having a religious discussion on a board devoted to such topics.

It fear it might even be too late for this thread.

What do you say, screenrider?  Can this thread be "saved"?


Well, I know that that other religion thread we had a month or two ago went well. But, it was specifically about Scientology, so this didn't really fit. And, I didn't really want to start my own because it began with quotes and people would have to go to another thread to understand the context.

In that case, no more religious-ness. And, I really would take it to a religious site, but you can't talk to them. You can talk and talk and talk and nothing will go through with them, in general, that is.

In other words, I'm still looking for a charity which will donate 85% to Haiti. Haven't found a worth one yet, but I think I will.


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religion and politics usually get people fired up, which is fine. However, IMHO, I have never seen the need to discuss those subjects on a screenwriting site unless it somehow has something to do with writing.

And yes, screenrider, I did match your donation...        


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Mr. Blonde here's an excellent charity where %100 goes directly to Haiti.
http://www.friendships.org/

And personally I see nothing wrong with the discussion of God on this thread. It only seems natural to have questions like this after thousands of lives are lost in one fell swoop.  Of course as Bert mentioned, there will be differences of opinions.  But all in all, it makes for a good subplot.  

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There's nothing really wrong with it, but for those of us who's been around here for years (somehow that sounds sad    ) we've seen these discussions blow up and like bert said, it never ends well.


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There's nothing really wrong with it, but for those of us who's been around here for years (somehow that sounds sad    ) we've seen these discussions blow up and like bert said, it never ends well.


If it blows up I'll take full responsibility.  
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And personally I see nothing wrong with the discussion of God on this thread.


The problem with bringing up God and religion in a non-religion site like SS is that you annoy those of us who know better.

Seriously though, you have to keep in mind that--if you are the religious type--that this is God's earthquake and he killed all those people.  A hundred thousand of innocent men, women and children.  Didn't he promise not to do this again after the flood?


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These type of conversations can always descend into some form of dispute, but that can actually be quite riveting to read, yet devillish to moderate.

I think the prinicple rule of thumb is that we are all stating opinion, nothing more. A lot will post as though they are the authority, and so it goes from there that viewpoints must be defended, etc. It is possible, however, to eek out something of worth for our own writing, so I think the discussions are valid on that basis.

To be fair, I've seen reviews of scripts take the tone of superiority, and we see that the problem largely rests with an individual ego, as opposed to the actual subject matter, but I do concede certain topics are highly contentious.

In the spirit of the thread, I pledge to donate the $10, as it's desperate to think of the hardship suffered as we sit typing on computers worth cumulative thousands.

Andrew


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Seriously though, you have to keep in mind that--if you are the religious type--that this is God's earthquake and he killed all those people.  A hundred thousand of innocent men, women and children.  Didn't he promise not to do this again after the flood?


That's a natural reaction, Phil.   I won't respond based on what I "think" but only by what I've read in the Bible.   Fact: there is a devil.  Fact: he's alive and well.  Fact: he hates mankind to the core.  Did he cause this? I dunno, maybe.  He's the Prince of the power of the air.  So he's obviously got some power.   And for that reason yes, I believe God allowed him to do this.  

Jesus said the thief does not come except to kill, steal and destroy. But Jesus came that we may have life and have it more abundantly.  He also said in this world we will have tribulation.  I believe he's trying to get our attention because let's face it, we've taken His 10 Commandments out of our parks, we won't allow our children to pray to Him in schools, we've taken Christ out of Christmas, and so on and so on.

And look what we got for it...3,500 babies aborted in the US every day,...45 murders a day, a woman is raped every 45 seconds, drug addiction, pornography, etc.  

My final takeway is this...God said in Chronicles 7:14, "If My people, who are called by My Name, will humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land".  God is not a man that he should lie.  We're living in a fallen world and reaping what we've been sowing.  I know that sounds harsh, but it is what it is.  IMO.

Will we ever get it?  Most likely not.  If you read Revelation you'll see that one day God is gonna let us have it our own way, and be left with no other alternative but to let the devil off his leash completely, and then we're really gonna be up a creek without a paddle.  Jesus will be our only hope.  Again, this is just my belief based on what I've read in the Bible.  

And thanks to Andrew for donating 10.00 to the Haiti disaster fund.  Let's keep those donations coming.  





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I won't respond based on what I "think" but only by what I've read in the Bible.   Fact: there is a devil.  Fact: he's alive and well.  Fact: he hates mankind to the core.


Normally, I would be beating you over the head with your own Bible for saying this.  But I won't. I will say this:  the Bible is a book of stories that is used as a basis for many religions.  It is not based on facts.  Science has disproven a lot of the Bible with the most obvious proof (scientific fact) dinosaur bones.

I was religious when I was young, and even studied for the priesthood for several years.  I'm not saying all this from an outsider's POV.  At a certain point in my life, I realized that the clergy was not for me.  Later on, I realized that religion was wrong.  It was something created by man to pacify men.

When it comes to religion, Mike, you don't have facts; you have faith.

And the two are like oil and water.


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When it comes to religion, Mike, you don't have facts; you have faith.


You're absoluetly right, Phil.  I don't have facts.  I only have faith, and the Bible.   And don't get me wrong, as much as I'd like to, I know I can't convert you.  Only God can change our hearts and open our eyes, which is exactly what He did for me.  And still doing.  It's a 24/7 job.

I'm lucky from the standpoint that I used to be a hardcore methamphetamine addict.  One night I encountered what I can only descibe as demonic activity.   Taking Jesus at his word, was a no-brainer after that harrowing ordeal.   Unfortunately guys like you are a tougher nut to crack.  BTW, are you gonna donate 10.00 to the Haiti disaster relief fund or not?
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I prefer not to advertise my contributions to any charities.  I've taken flack for revealing such info in the past (not here).


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Unfortunately guys like you are a tougher nut to crack.

See, this is where it gets interesting.

Michael, why do you even feel there's a nut to crack? Why does it matter to you whether this or that person believes in God? If it's a good person that lives his or her life by certain moral and ethical standards, then what does it matter?


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Michael, why do you even feel there's a nut to crack? Why does it matter to you whether this or that person believes in God? If it's a good person that lives his or her life by certain moral and ethical standards, then what does it matter?


It is the responsibility of the believers of many religions to recruit.  I know people who are required by their congregation to go door-to-door.

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It is the responsibility of the believers of many religions to recruit.  I know people who are required by their congregation to go door-to-door.

That's was the feeling I got too but I wanna hear it from Michael.



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Pooh -- see how this always happens with religion?  This thread is officially derailed.

Anyways, I am not gonna spend my time monitoring 2 threads on this topic.

I don't even want to monitor 1 thread on this topic, quite frankly -- but if you must -- take it here:

http://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-Chat/m-1263498334/

Don't make me lock this well-intentioned thread, which I have now retitled to reflect APPROPRIATE discussion.


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Michael, why do you even feel there's a nut to crack? Why does it matter to you whether this or that person believes in God? If it's a good person that lives his or her life by certain moral and ethical standards, then what does it matter?



It matters to God because He loves you.  He clearly says it in the the Bible, there are none righteous, not even one.  All of our righteousness is but filthy rags in His sight.  All of us have sinned and fall short the glory of God.  That's why He sent Jesus to die on the cross as a propitiation for our sins.  John 3:16-18, sums up the rest.  You can accept it or reject it.  It's your choice.  


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Anyways, I am not gonna spend my time monitoring 2 threads on this topic.


So you changed the name to the Hurricane Relief Fund?

What hurricane?


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So you changed the name to the Hurricane Relief Fund?

What hurricane?


Phil


Haha -- I am at work and very distracted.

I am an idiot.


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Call Pat Robertson's "700 Club" @ 1 (800) 759-0700 to give your opinion of his comments about Haiti. It costs them about $1 to pick up each 800 call. Cut & paste everywhere, a million calls costs them a million dollars, send it in a message to all your FB friends.


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Call Pat Robertson's "700 Club" @ 1 (800) 759-0700 to give your opinion of his comments about Haiti. It costs them about $1 to pick up each 800 call. Cut & paste everywhere, a million calls costs them a million dollars, send it in a message to all your FB friends.
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Phil,
You're nothing but a rabble-rouser.   Okay, so Pat Robertson screwed up.  But you're  comments are equally as pathetic.   You're far more concerned about throwing stones at PR than you are helping Haiti.  Way to go, sport.  You might as well go stomp on some kittens while you're at it.  

Galations 6:7.

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The Devil himself has replied to Pat Robertson's comment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SW0DJkC5JY


No Pat Robertson didn't just screw up. Screwing up would be like mistaking the earthquake for a hurricane. Calling the hurricane the ill effects of some long ago deal with the Devil is beyond moronic. It's incredibly insensitive and he should be called out on it.

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Okay, so Pat Robertson screwed up.  But you're  comments are equally as pathetic.


My comments aren't preventing people from donating to charities.  Reverend Dickhead's comments are.  His followers will believe that the Haitians are evil and will not help out in anyway.  Thinks of how much his followers could've donated if he didn't speak so stupidly.


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Call Pat Robertson's "700 Club" @ 1 (800) 759-0700 to give your opinion of his comments about Haiti. It costs them about $1 to pick up each 800 call. Cut & paste everywhere, a million calls costs them a million dollars, send it in a message to all your FB friends.

Wonder what crappy phone company they use. We pay less than $ 0.03 per call at our business...



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A hard pill to swallow...

The Haiti earthquake and every other natural disaster, and unatural disasters, are a direct result of man's original sin.  Not just Haitians, but all of us.

When Adam was placed into the garden of Eden, he was told that he could eat of every tree except the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. When Eve was created, she was also warned, although the Bible does not indicate if this warning was given by God or Adam (who received it directly from God). When Adam and Eve sinned, God pronounced some curses on the guilty parties (Adam, Eve, and the serpent, a.k.a., Satan). Part of the curse given to Adam was the curse of the ground, from which he was to obtain food.  Genesis 3:17.

Mankind's self-imposed curse will be removed - but only by the return to our planet by its Creator, Jesus Christ.


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A hard pill to swallow...

The Haiti earthquake and every other natural disaster, and unatural disasters, are a direct result of man's original sin.  Not just Haitians, but all of us.

When Adam was placed into the garden of Eden, he was told that he could eat of every tree except the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. When Eve was created, she was also warned, although the Bible does not indicate if this warning was given by God or Adam (who received it directly from God). When Adam and Eve sinned, God pronounced some curses on the guilty parties (Adam, Eve, and the serpent, a.k.a., Satan). Part of the curse given to Adam was the curse of the ground, from which he was to obtain food.  Genesis 3:17.

Love it or leave it.


A hard pill to swallow? Get a glass of water. You need to swallow it.

If anyone here is a trouble maker, it’s you Screenrider. You’re here to proselytize, plain and simple. That’s what you came here for and you’re going to keep going until you get your holy war. You’ve wanted nothing but to drag your religious beliefs into this site since you got here.

Now you want to turn this thread into the religion thread. You’re at the wrong site. You need to go to a religious site for this bullshit.


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I'm not trying to convert anyone to Christianity any more than Phil Clarke is trying to convert people to become athiests.  I'm simply telling the truth.  We're living in a fallen world.  All creation as been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Romans 8:22.

And if you were paying attention you'd realize the only reason I opened this thread was to try and rally other SS'rs to match my donation to the Red Cross.  I'm not the one who started the topic of religion, on this thread, or the other one.  

The subject would've been dead if Phil Clarke wouldn't have spouted off about Robertson.  If he wants to sling mud then he should open up a different thread.  So get off my back.  And have a nice day.

EDIT: Let's just get one last thing straight.  I'm not here to fit into your cookie cutter mold.   It's a well-known fact by now that I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ.   And I will voice my opinions if the subject of religion is brought up.

Nobody bats an eye when the name of Jesus is used as a cuss word, or when a group of SS screenwriters wrote a script entitled, Screenrider's Blasphemous Adventure, aimed directly at ridiculing me, and then they didn't even have the guts to sign their real names to it.  That's okay, I can handle that.  

But what I won't put up with is any of you trying to silence me, or talk trash about Jesus and expect me not to retort.   Now unless I am in violation of SS rules then I don't know what else to tell you.  In all honesty it might be better to ban me from this site.  Because that's the only way you're gonna get rid of me.  But let there be no mistake about it, you're still gonna have to deal with Jesus.   He's everywhere. Proverbs 15:3.

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I'm not trying to convert anyone to Christianity…


Please don’t lie. It just makes you look worse. It’s plainly obvious what you’re trying to do. You’re not fooling anyone but yourself.


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We're living in a fallen world.  All creation as been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.


This is what I’m talking about. This bullshit -- and that’s exactly what it is -- doesn’t belong here. It belongs in Sunday School, hopefully with adults and not children (because indoctrinating children with irrational bullshit would be cruel and abusive.)


Breanne


Addendum:

To all:

This thread is for a worthy cause. I apologize for the interruption but I’m just sick and tired of this religious bullshit. Those of us who have been around for awhile knew that religion thread would be a disaster and now I see this thread heading that same direction.

I got perturbed by the whole thing. I’m tired of hearing this nonsense. Sorry.

To Screenrider:

I’m not going to argue with you. You’re full of shit and that’s about all I have to say regarding you. I’m done with this thread. You can have the last word or whatever floats your boat -- or ark -- or whatever.


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I'm simply telling the truth.  


Mike, dude, seriously.  This isn't the place.  Please just cut it out.

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3. Do not be disrespectful of other members, do not put down other members of the board, do not attack or encourage other to attack a member of the board.
6. Post in the correct forum.  
7. Do not spam the board with the same or similar posts.
8. Think before you post. (Whenever possible, think, and think again, before doing or saying anything.)

In a nutshell.  Be cool.  Be respectful of everyone on the board.  I reserve the right to ban anyone for not following the rules above OR for just being a jerk.  I also reserve the right to ban anyone without a warning or explanation.  It doesn't matter how much you have posted or whether or not you are a moderator (who thankfully have been pretty good about setting the example on the board).


All those have been broken here and this was supposed to be about a good cause.


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You can have the last word or whatever floats your boat -- or ark -- or whatever.


Jesus will have the last word.

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All those have been broken here and this was supposed to be about a good cause.


You’re right, Wes.

I added an addendum to my post. You’re right that this thread is for a good cause. My apologies. I got fed up with the religious stuff. I let it get to me. Sorry.


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You’re right, Wes.

I added an addendum to my post. You’re right that this thread is for a good cause. My apologies. I got fed up with the religious stuff. I let it get to me. Sorry.


Breanne



We don't have rules about jokes and Phil's joke or whatever you want to call it in context was not against the rules. Someone took that post and made this thread the way it is.

That's where my post came from, it just happens that a few other people were annoyed enough to post before I got around to saying it.


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I'm not trying to convert anyone to Christianity any more than Phil Clarke is trying to convert people to become athiests.


Are you kidding?  Your personal message (under your avatar0 is a chapter and quote from Revelations.  Your .sig refer to Proverbs and has links to spiritually-related sites. My .sig does tell me to read a science book.  You've comments on people's scripts using the Lord's name in vain; I'm not crying that there's not enough references to Evolution, am I?


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Anyone getting any reading or writing done? I mean, seriously, dudes.

First off, this whole discussion is hack. I've been embroiled in one of these about three dozen times in my life, and it's tired already...

Here's how it goes - you, Phil, ask for proof of what Robertson is saying, and screenrider responds with a quote from a book that you say was written 2,500-3,000 years ago by semi-nomadic tribesmen.  See how this thing goes?

Screen is not responsible for what Pat Robertson says any more than you're responsible for what any famous athiest says.

By the way, I could make mince meat out of either of your arguments, which is why a healthy skepticism is just that - healthy.  A centrist view is always the best view.  

And remember, fundamentalism is any form is dangerous - there is no difference between Christian fundamentalism and Islamic fundamentalism as viewed by a third party. In other words, when the Afghan rebels say "Allah akhbar" and "death to the infidels" and President Bush says (said) "with the help of God we will win this war", the Euros point a finger at BOTH nations and say that we're both nuts.

Screen, you have to know that you'll never get through to anyone here, and that your faith is based on just that - faith - and that's okay.  There's no way around the fact that out of the following four statements, at least one CANNOT be true unless you abandon dogma and apply some sort of science to it:

God is all powerful;
God is all knowing;
God is benevolent;
There is evil in the world.

The buddhists give up the last one - they claim there is no evil in the world; just various levels of "goodness".  In other words, evil is the logical opposition to anything good that happens, and in the many-worlds theory (which many buddhists subscribe to), all outcomes are not only possible, they are probable.

And Phil, I can point you to scientific studies and books that have documented verifiable near-death experiences. I can point you to the scientific observations of the Sufi mystics and buddhists which strongly hint at an afterlife. I can point you to a book by a physics mathematician who claims to have equations that prove the existence of God will come into being at the "Omega Point" (I'm actually incorporating it into a short I'm writing).

In short, you're both right, and you're both wrong. Screen has his faith, you have your opposition to it.

Now cut it out and both of you go read my hilarious feature-length comedy... (o:


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Your personal message (under your avatar0 is a chapter and quote from Revelations.  Your .sig refer to Proverbs and has links to spiritually-related sites.



Yeah, Phil.  This is how I roll.  But in light of recent events, and really not wanting to be a thorn in anyone's side, I will try my best to refrain from any further comments on the subject of Jesus.   Unless of course it's thrown in my face, and then it's a whole nother ballgame.  I'm here to learn the craft of screenwriting, not debate theology.  I apologize to anyone whom I may have offended or distracted with my comments.    That's the best I can do.

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For a thread that's title:  Donate to an Earthquake Relief Fund of Your Choice, I don't understand how religion keeps creeping into threads where the initial subject matter doesn't raise it as a discussion topic.

I think the mods can delete a lot of posts here.  This is about donating not religion.


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I think the mods can delete a lot of posts here.  This is about donating not religion.


We'll get around to it.  For the time being, everyone stay on topic.  Posts that skew from the discussion will be deleted/edited.


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I don't understand how religion keeps creeping into threads where the initial subject matter doesn't raise it as a discussion topic.


You'd have to start at the top to get the whole story.   A story of how one screenwriter's plight to help Haiti got seriously fubar.

Getting back to the main topic: Who's gonna match my $10.00 donation?   Hundreds of screenwriters on this site and I've counted maybe five or six people who said they'd send something.  And this isn't about tooting anyone's horn it was simply an attempt to see how much, we as screenwriters, could scrounge up for the cause.  

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http://american.redcross.org/s.....ResponseStateSection
https://donate.mercycorps.org/donation.htm?DonorIntent=Haiti+Earthquake

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I think the mods can delete a lot of posts here.


I was gonna clean out the thread, but it is really beyond help.

There are only, like, three posts on here that are even worth a shit.

Donate or don't, based upon your capacity and inclination to do so.  That is really all that needs to be said.

Refer to the post above this one for a few links.

And do not start any more religion threads for a while.  I am sick of that topic and will delete them on sight.


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