Quoted from dogglebe Call Pat Robertson's "700 Club" @ 1 (800) 759-0700 to give your opinion of his comments about Haiti. It costs them about $1 to pick up each 800 call. Cut & paste everywhere, a million calls costs them a million dollars, send it in a message to all your FB friends.

Wonder what crappy phone company they use. We pay less than $ 0.03 per call at our business...

A hard pill to swallow...

The Haiti earthquake and every other natural disaster, and unatural disasters, are a direct result of man's original sin.  Not just Haitians, but all of us.

When Adam was placed into the garden of Eden, he was told that he could eat of every tree except the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. When Eve was created, she was also warned, although the Bible does not indicate if this warning was given by God or Adam (who received it directly from God). When Adam and Eve sinned, God pronounced some curses on the guilty parties (Adam, Eve, and the serpent, a.k.a., Satan). Part of the curse given to Adam was the curse of the ground, from which he was to obtain food.  Genesis 3:17.

Mankind's self-imposed curse will be removed - but only by the return to our planet by its Creator, Jesus Christ.

Quoted from screenrider A hard pill to swallow... The Haiti earthquake and every other natural disaster, and unatural disasters, are a direct result of man's original sin.  Not just Haitians, but all of us. When Adam was placed into the garden of Eden, he was told that he could eat of every tree except the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. When Eve was created, she was also warned, although the Bible does not indicate if this warning was given by God or Adam (who received it directly from God). When Adam and Eve sinned, God pronounced some curses on the guilty parties (Adam, Eve, and the serpent, a.k.a., Satan). Part of the curse given to Adam was the curse of the ground, from which he was to obtain food.  Genesis 3:17. Love it or leave it.

A hard pill to swallow? Get a glass of water. You need to swallow it.

If anyone here is a trouble maker, it’s you Screenrider. You’re here to proselytize, plain and simple. That’s what you came here for and you’re going to keep going until you get your holy war. You’ve wanted nothing but to drag your religious beliefs into this site since you got here.

Now you want to turn this thread into the religion thread. You’re at the wrong site. You need to go to a religious site for this bullshit.


Breanne

Breanne

I'm not trying to convert anyone to Christianity any more than Phil Clarke is trying to convert people to become athiests.  I'm simply telling the truth.  We're living in a fallen world.  All creation as been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Romans 8:22.

And if you were paying attention you'd realize the only reason I opened this thread was to try and rally other SS'rs to match my donation to the Red Cross.  I'm not the one who started the topic of religion, on this thread, or the other one.  

The subject would've been dead if Phil Clarke wouldn't have spouted off about Robertson.  If he wants to sling mud then he should open up a different thread.  So get off my back.  And have a nice day.

EDIT: Let's just get one last thing straight.  I'm not here to fit into your cookie cutter mold.   It's a well-known fact by now that I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ.   And I will voice my opinions if the subject of religion is brought up.

Nobody bats an eye when the name of Jesus is used as a cuss word, or when a group of SS screenwriters wrote a script entitled, Screenrider's Blasphemous Adventure, aimed directly at ridiculing me, and then they didn't even have the guts to sign their real names to it.  That's okay, I can handle that.  

But what I won't put up with is any of you trying to silence me, or talk trash about Jesus and expect me not to retort.   Now unless I am in violation of SS rules then I don't know what else to tell you.  In all honesty it might be better to ban me from this site.  Because that's the only way you're gonna get rid of me.  But let there be no mistake about it, you're still gonna have to deal with Jesus.   He's everywhere. Proverbs 15:3.

Quoted from screenrider I'm not trying to convert anyone to Christianity…

Please don’t lie. It just makes you look worse. It’s plainly obvious what you’re trying to do. You’re not fooling anyone but yourself.

Quoted from screenrider We're living in a fallen world.  All creation as been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

This is what I’m talking about. This bullshit -- and that’s exactly what it is -- doesn’t belong here. It belongs in Sunday School, hopefully with adults and not children (because indoctrinating children with irrational bullshit would be cruel and abusive.)


Breanne


Addendum:

To all:

This thread is for a worthy cause. I apologize for the interruption but I’m just sick and tired of this religious bullshit. Those of us who have been around for awhile knew that religion thread would be a disaster and now I see this thread heading that same direction.

I got perturbed by the whole thing. I’m tired of hearing this nonsense. Sorry.

To Screenrider:

I’m not going to argue with you. You’re full of shit and that’s about all I have to say regarding you. I’m done with this thread. You can have the last word or whatever floats your boat -- or ark -- or whatever.


Breanne

Quoted from screenrider I'm simply telling the truth.

Mike, dude, seriously.  This isn't the place.  Please just cut it out.

-Greg

Quoted Text 2. Be Civil 3. Do not be disrespectful of other members, do not put down other members of the board, do not attack or encourage other to attack a member of the board. 6. Post in the correct forum.   7. Do not spam the board with the same or similar posts. 8. Think before you post. (Whenever possible, think, and think again, before doing or saying anything.) In a nutshell.  Be cool.  Be respectful of everyone on the board.  I reserve the right to ban anyone for not following the rules above OR for just being a jerk.  I also reserve the right to ban anyone without a warning or explanation.  It doesn't matter how much you have posted or whether or not you are a moderator (who thankfully have been pretty good about setting the example on the board).

All those have been broken here and this was supposed to be about a good cause.

Quoted from Breanne Mattson You can have the last word or whatever floats your boat -- or ark -- or whatever.

Jesus will have the last word.

Quoted from Old Time Wesley All those have been broken here and this was supposed to be about a good cause.

You’re right, Wes.

I added an addendum to my post. You’re right that this thread is for a good cause. My apologies. I got fed up with the religious stuff. I let it get to me. Sorry.


Breanne

Quoted from Breanne Mattson You’re right, Wes. I added an addendum to my post. You’re right that this thread is for a good cause. My apologies. I got fed up with the religious stuff. I let it get to me. Sorry. Breanne

We don't have rules about jokes and Phil's joke or whatever you want to call it in context was not against the rules. Someone took that post and made this thread the way it is.

That's where my post came from, it just happens that a few other people were annoyed enough to post before I got around to saying it.

Quoted from screenrider I'm not trying to convert anyone to Christianity any more than Phil Clarke is trying to convert people to become athiests.

Are you kidding?  Your personal message (under your avatar0 is a chapter and quote from Revelations.  Your .sig refer to Proverbs and has links to spiritually-related sites. My .sig does tell me to read a science book.  You've comments on people's scripts using the Lord's name in vain; I'm not crying that there's not enough references to Evolution, am I?


Phil

Anyone getting any reading or writing done? I mean, seriously, dudes.

First off, this whole discussion is hack. I've been embroiled in one of these about three dozen times in my life, and it's tired already...

Here's how it goes - you, Phil, ask for proof of what Robertson is saying, and screenrider responds with a quote from a book that you say was written 2,500-3,000 years ago by semi-nomadic tribesmen.  See how this thing goes?

Screen is not responsible for what Pat Robertson says any more than you're responsible for what any famous athiest says.

By the way, I could make mince meat out of either of your arguments, which is why a healthy skepticism is just that - healthy.  A centrist view is always the best view.  

And remember, fundamentalism is any form is dangerous - there is no difference between Christian fundamentalism and Islamic fundamentalism as viewed by a third party. In other words, when the Afghan rebels say "Allah akhbar" and "death to the infidels" and President Bush says (said) "with the help of God we will win this war", the Euros point a finger at BOTH nations and say that we're both nuts.

Screen, you have to know that you'll never get through to anyone here, and that your faith is based on just that - faith - and that's okay.  There's no way around the fact that out of the following four statements, at least one CANNOT be true unless you abandon dogma and apply some sort of science to it:

God is all powerful;
God is all knowing;
God is benevolent;
There is evil in the world.

The buddhists give up the last one - they claim there is no evil in the world; just various levels of "goodness".  In other words, evil is the logical opposition to anything good that happens, and in the many-worlds theory (which many buddhists subscribe to), all outcomes are not only possible, they are probable.

And Phil, I can point you to scientific studies and books that have documented verifiable near-death experiences. I can point you to the scientific observations of the Sufi mystics and buddhists which strongly hint at an afterlife. I can point you to a book by a physics mathematician who claims to have equations that prove the existence of God will come into being at the "Omega Point" (I'm actually incorporating it into a short I'm writing).

In short, you're both right, and you're both wrong. Screen has his faith, you have your opposition to it.

Now cut it out and both of you go read my hilarious feature-length comedy... (o:

Quoted from dogglebe Your personal message (under your avatar0 is a chapter and quote from Revelations.  Your .sig refer to Proverbs and has links to spiritually-related sites.

Yeah, Phil.  This is how I roll.  But in light of recent events, and really not wanting to be a thorn in anyone's side, I will try my best to refrain from any further comments on the subject of Jesus.   Unless of course it's thrown in my face, and then it's a whole nother ballgame.  I'm here to learn the craft of screenwriting, not debate theology.  I apologize to anyone whom I may have offended or distracted with my comments.    That's the best I can do.

For a thread that's title:  Donate to an Earthquake Relief Fund of Your Choice, I don't understand how religion keeps creeping into threads where the initial subject matter doesn't raise it as a discussion topic.

I think the mods can delete a lot of posts here.  This is about donating not religion.

Quoted from jayrex I think the mods can delete a lot of posts here.  This is about donating not religion.

We'll get around to it.  For the time being, everyone stay on topic.  Posts that skew from the discussion will be deleted/edited.