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Posted: May 22nd, 2023, 7:32pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Grandma Bear
Which AI bot are you guys using? I used Openai Chat GPT. It gave me my "glowing" review in less than a second.  

Libby, I simply copy/pasted straight from FD.


Ah, okay.
Would need to be on my PC.

https://chat.openai.com/
This is the one I used.

Like Kathy said I'm blown away by how fast this formulates a review.
It also crossed my mind, as Andrea said, the possible misuses of this (Judging Comps & Specs) - but it works on algorithms and info fed into it e.g. Spits out stuff by rote, 'Show don't tell', format etc.

I find this very creepy cause the reviews are such that you quickly feel like you're interacting/responding to a human analysis, but you're not. It's a machine.

And as my example proves only G-rated content will pass muster even though the operative word is Screenplay.


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... Libby, maybe doesn’t work from a phone?  Not sure. I sent from my desktop computer. It accepted and generated a review in seconds.

Thanks Kathy, yep, I think a phone is probably limited in function.
This was interesting to say the least. But overall, creepy. Maybe I'd feel different with a glowing review instead of a 'rejection letter' .


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And as my example proves only G-rated content will pass muster even though the operative word is Screenplay.


I used the same one, Openai. My script was pretty graphic and included descriptions of murder, but I told it, remember this is a supernatural horror script so it has some violent content. I think it answered with something like, yes, I ynderstand.  

Pretty creepy...


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I used the same one, Openai. My script was pretty graphic and included descriptions of murder, but I told it, remember this is a supernatural horror script so it has some violent content. I think it answered with something like, yes, I ynderstand.  

Pretty creepy...

Oh wow, okay. I didn't feed it enough info. Very creepy.


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Ok, after getting over the first "creepy" feeling about this (remembering someone's recent short that revolved around inviting AI into their personal life and opening a Pandora's box)

I think that was my AI Illusion script. It's in pre-production by two separate filmmakers now. One in LA and one in Prague. Maybe AI related stories are what people are looking for these days?  



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I think it's worth noting how AI text generation like ChatGPT actually works. When you ask it to provide "feedback on a screenplay", all it's really doing is drawing upon examples of screenplay notes available from it's learning data and extrapolating from that, combined with cobbling some data from whatever excerpt you provide it. For example - it MAY be able to comment on pacing (assuming the AI is trained on screenplays and knows what typical pacing is), formatting issues, and "novelty", but little about character and narrative IMO.

I fed a script of mine into ChatGPT and this is some of the feedback it gave:



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Dialogue: The dialogue feels natural and reflects the characters' personalities. However, some exchanges, particularly the intimate scene between Tucker and Jenny, may benefit from more sensitivity and nuanced handling to ensure respectful representation.

Themes and Tone: The excerpt touches on themes of loss, isolation, and the struggles of the characters. The tone appears to be gritty and raw, reflecting the harsh realities of their lives. It could be beneficial to explore these themes further and establish a consistent tone throughout the screenplay."


The dialogue feedback is just a rote "feedback-like" statement, and the comments around sensitvity/nuance are simply because those two character it names use curse words and have sex with one another.

I would hard say the tone is "loss or isolation" and "struggles of the character" isn't a kind of theme, it's a plot point.


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Sorry for double post, but just to prove my point that ChatGPT isn't actually drawing any conclusions from the text, i provided it with two more prompts based on my script excerpt.

I asked: What did you think of Tucker's dialogue?

ChatGPT said:

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...Tucker's dialogue appears to be straightforward and direct, reflecting his assertive and confident personality. He expresses his frustration and disappointment with the current situation and his determination to find a solution. The use of strong and emotional language, such as "lousy," "sick of it," and "busting my back," adds intensity to his dialogue and highlights his determination. Overall, Tucker's dialogue effectively conveys his emotions and motivations.


That character never uses any of the words or phrases ChatGPT quotes.

I also asked - what do you think should happen next for the main character? It replied:


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Based on the provided excerpt, there are several possible directions you could take the main character. Here are a few suggestions:

Redemption and Growth: You could explore the main character's journey towards redemption and personal growth. This could involve them finding a sense of purpose or discovering a new path in life that helps them overcome their past struggles and mistakes. It could be a gradual process where they face challenges, make amends, and learn valuable lessons along the way.

Confronting the Past: The main character could embark on a quest to confront their past demons and reconcile with unresolved issues. This could involve reconnecting with estranged family members, facing old enemies, or coming to terms with a traumatic event. By exploring their past, they can gain closure and find a path towards a better future.

Inner Conflict: You could delve deeper into the main character's internal conflicts and struggles. This could include exploring their moral dilemmas, battling their inner demons, or grappling with conflicting desires or loyalties. By delving into their internal journey, you can create a more complex and introspective character arc.

Unlikely Allies or Love Interest: Introduce a new character who becomes an unexpected ally or a love interest for the main character. This new relationship could challenge the main character's beliefs, provide support and guidance, or even create additional conflict. It could be an opportunity to explore the main character's vulnerability, trust issues, or capacity for change.

Pursuit of a Goal: Define a clear goal for the main character to pursue throughout the story. It could be a personal ambition, a mission for justice, or a desire to achieve something significant. By setting a specific goal, you can create a driving force that propels the main character forward, leading to new challenges and opportunities for growth.

Remember to consider the themes and tone you want to maintain in your screenplay and how these suggestions align with your overall vision for the story. Ultimately, the next steps for the main character should serve the narrative's progression and contribute to their development.


...all of which is boiler-plate screenplay/plotting advice with no reference to the excerpt.


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Okay, I apologise again for a new triple post, but this is wild. I take back everything I said about ChatGPT in my previous comments.

I ran another test by submitting a particularly surreal/hard to  unpack short script that I wrote (https://www.simplyscripts.net/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-shortdrama/m-1667340006/) with an unresolved partially allegorical mystery at it's centre, and I asked ChatGPT to unpack/resolve the mystery for the reader. It successfully did so - it explicated my exact intentions with a VERY opaque plotline/theme, suggesting "higher level" thinking. It's crazy.


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Based on the provided script, it is open to interpretation as to what the exact solution to the mystery is. However, there are a few possibilities that can be inferred:

Psychological or Supernatural Explanation: The story hints at surreal elements, such as the radio tuning, the alive-breathing cavern walls, and the Wife's confusion about her identity. It is possible that the events are a result of psychological or supernatural phenomena, blurring the line between reality and perception.

Identity Confusion or Dissociative Disorder: The Wife's resemblance to Maddy's missing sister, Aurora, raises questions about identity. It could be suggested that the Wife has a dissociative disorder, assuming the identity of Aurora without being consciously aware of it.

Parallel Universes or Time Loops: The presence of the Wife, who looks exactly like Aurora, might indicate the existence of parallel universes or time loops. It is possible that Maddy has entered an alternate reality or is trapped in a recurring time loop, where Aurora's disappearance is repeated.

Metaphorical Interpretation: The script may be symbolic or metaphorical, exploring themes of loss, confusion, and the search for identity. The mysterious elements could represent Maddy's internal struggle to find her sister or understand herself better.

It's important to note that without further context or a definitive resolution provided in the script, these are speculative interpretations. The actual solution to the mystery, if any, would depend on the intentions and direction of the writer or filmmaker.


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Okay, I apologise again for a new triple post, but this is wild.

Makes you wonder if we will all be obsolete and if so, maybe even sooner than first feared...

Don posted Scan at Your Own Risk here yesterday. I asked ChatGPT to help me with the logline and it did. In less than a second!!! Maybe it could be better, but as someone who has never been able to put together a decent logline, this was a HUGE help to me.

Not sure yet how I feel about all this.  


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Chatbots are us. Like, they are literally reading THIS site (and others) to learn how to do what we do.

They are also reading our scripts for the same reason. In a way, the more scripts and reviews we post, the closer we push ourselves to extinction. The WGA is right to fight this one. (You hear me Chatbot?)

Of course, I'm still going to post scripts. I'll just do so knowing that I'm slowly killing myself.


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Quoted from Grandma Bear

Makes you wonder if we will all be obsolete and if so, maybe even sooner than first feared...

Don posted Scan at Your Own Risk here yesterday. I asked ChatGPT to help me with the logline and it did. In less than a second!!! Maybe it could be better, but as someone who has never been able to put together a decent logline, this was a HUGE help to me.

Not sure yet how I feel about all this.  


Maybe you could ask the chatbot how you feel about this?


...in no particular order
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At the very least, I can see the 'Review my Logline' thread going very quiet.

I hope not.


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I hate all this AI bullshit. And it hates me right back. Lol
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I hate all this AI bullshit.


So, we know that the Chatbot is scanning this site for inupt. Which means by posting "I hate AI" you just taught AI to hate itself.

You, Zack Akers, have introduced AI to self-loathing.

If we get someone else to introduce it to alcohol, this entire problem may be solved.


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Quoted from LC
At the very least, I can see the 'Review my Logline' thread going very quiet.

And Carson's logline biz...


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You, Zack Akers, have introduced AI to self-loathing.

If we get someone else to introduce it to alcohol, this entire problem may be solved.

Now that's funny!  



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