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I like Guy Ritchie movies, although RocknRolla was not all that exciting, and I was excited to hear he was making a Sherlock Holmes movie. . .until I heard he was going to explore the 'homosexual' side of Holmes and Watson's relationship. That killed it for me. Although, with Jude law in the flick, it's no surprise.
I have been a fan of Sherlock Holmes and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for years, having read everything he has written about Sherlock, and this is a side of these characters that DOES NOT exist, and DOES NOT need to be made up. Ever. I'll be skipping this one.
Just like Dumbledore. Why do so many 'creators', feel that male characters have to made homosexual to 'have depth', or be interesting?
I like Guy Ritchie movies, although RocknRolla was not all that exciting, and I was excited to hear he was making a Sherlock Holmes movie. . .until I heard he was going to explore the 'homosexual' side of Holmes and Watson's relationship. That killed it for me. Although, with Jude law in the flick, it's no surprise.
I have been a fan of Sherlock Holmes and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for years, having read everything he has written about Sherlock, and this is a side of these characters that DOES NOT exist, and DOES NOT need to be made up. Ever. I'll be skipping this one.
Just like Dumbledore. Why do so many 'creators', feel that male characters have to made homosexual to 'have depth', or be interesting?
The trailer was funny but that would definately turn me off too. People love to push political agendas, aparently homosexuality is the new height that all nobel characters must aspire to...
I like Guy Ritchie movies, although RocknRolla was not all that exciting, and I was excited to hear he was making a Sherlock Holmes movie. . .until I heard he was going to explore the 'homosexual' side of Holmes and Watson's relationship. That killed it for me. Although, with Jude law in the flick, it's no surprise.
I have been a fan of Sherlock Holmes and Sir Arthur Conan Doyle for years, having read everything he has written about Sherlock, and this is a side of these characters that DOES NOT exist, and DOES NOT need to be made up. Ever. I'll be skipping this one.
Just like Dumbledore. Why do so many 'creators', feel that male characters have to made homosexual to 'have depth', or be interesting?
Homosexuality is only a big deal if you make it out to be a big deal. Who cares if Dumbledore is gay?
Homosexuality is only a big deal if you make it out to be a big deal. Who cares if Dumbledore is gay?
Exactly! 7 books, not a mention, then all of a sudden, it's plastered everywhere! Why? Why did it have to become an issue? Who cares. The novels stood up just fine without it ever being mentioned. Sherlock Holmes doesn't need it either.
Exactly! 7 books, not a mention, then all of a sudden, it's plastered everywhere! Why? Why did it have to become an issue? Who cares. The novels stood up just fine without it ever being mentioned. Sherlock Holmes doesn't need it either.
But you're looking at two different things: In Harry Potter, it was never explicitly stated that Dumbledore is gay. JK comes out and then says that she thought of him as a gay character while writing him.
In Sherlock Holmes, it sounds like they're explicitly talking about Sherlock and Watson as gay characters.
To both I say, who cares, but that's just my personal opinion. I don't see why a character's sexual orientation should be such a hot topic and cause for alarm.
The only people causing an uproar over this are people uncomfortable with homosexuality.
Now, I can understand not wanting to see Sherlock Holmes in such a light to preserve the original character, but hey, I don't want to see him rebooted period, so whatever. It's not like they're doing a classic reinterpretation anyway.
Thanks for the link, it looks good. I will probably see this, although I don't know how the comedy will mix with the other themes.... I don't remember Sherlock Holmes having too much comedy involved.
Thanks for the link, it looks good. I will probably see this, although I don't know how the comedy will mix with the other themes.... I don't remember Sherlock Holmes having too much comedy involved.
Sherlock Holmes had no 'blatant' comedy except the awesome interplay between Holmes and Watson.
But you're looking at two different things: In Harry Potter, it was never explicitly stated that Dumbledore is gay. JK comes out and then says that she thought of him as a gay character while writing him.
In Sherlock Holmes, it sounds like they're explicitly talking about Sherlock and Watson as gay characters.
To both I say, who cares, but that's just my personal opinion. I don't see why a character's sexual orientation should be such a hot topic and cause for alarm.
The only people causing an uproar over this are people uncomfortable with homosexuality.
Now, I can understand not wanting to see Sherlock Holmes in such a light to preserve the original character, but hey, I don't want to see him rebooted period, so whatever. It's not like they're doing a classic reinterpretation anyway.
If it's a non-issue why include it? I thought steve8's point was that this homosexual trait is being used by writers/creaters to give 'depth' to characters when in fact characters can be interesting without it. All of recent television and films are saturated with it.
If it's a non-issue why include it? I thought steve8's point was that this homosexual trait is being used by writers/creaters to give 'depth' to characters when in fact characters can be interesting without it. All of recent television and films are saturated with it.
Looks awesome. I'm glad Ritchie is finally directing a film not written by him. I love his direction, but felt that his writing has been lacking recently.
I just read the script. It seems this version will be markedly different from the produced one. In the preview it seems Watson and Holmes live together (with the 3 am violin and clothes comment) while in this script Watson is about to propose to his girlfriend. Also the dialogue is different. Holmes asks the maid for a screwdriver(to release the cuffs) in the script but in the preview aparently the keys are on his crotch.
I just read the script. It seems this version will be markedly different from the produced one. In the preview it seems Watson and Holmes live together (with the 3 am violin and clothes comment) while in this script Watson is about to propose to his girlfriend. Also the dialogue is different. Holmes asks the maid for a screwdriver(to release the cuffs) in the script but in the preview aparently the keys are on his crotch.
It would be nice to see the shooting script...
Yeah, I think the shooting draft have changes by Guy Ritchie and Simon Kinberg. Unfortunately I don't have that one.
I believe that this is one of the reasons why you can never judge a script by its movie. The script that launched a movie into production will be vastly different from the end product and the changes it's undertaken. Yet, so many writers and critics are quick to blame movies they don't like on the writer and the script.
Well, this should fit in nicely alongside Star Trek -- another intelligent, thought-provoking franchise re-imagined as brainless, mildly diverting summer entertainment. Should be fun, but I wish they wouldn't call it Sherlock Holmes.
This actually looks fairly promising. At the very least, a fun ride. Ritchie's name has been drug through the mud ever since Madonna entered the picture and for good reason but from the looks of the trailer, his interpretation of the characters seems a little more gutsy than most directors would shoot for. I imagine most, good or bad, would be pretty by-the-books.
The cast also looks pretty solid. Robert Downey Jr.'s quickly becoming everyone's favorite cokefiend, not to mention he's a damn fine actor and always memorable. Jude Law's got his moments and Rachel McAdams is probably one of the better actresses of her generation around right now.
Still, only time will tell. Ritchie's made two attempts to win back his reputation after Swept Away and neither has seemed to make any waves. Hopefully, this time will be different.
How Guy Ritchie is making films after Swept Away, Revolver and Rock n Rolla is beyond me. I'm not saying this looks bad, but the guy must have either friends in high places or some serious dollar.
Sherlock Holmes has been re-invented an almost infinite number of times.
He's been in comic books (there was a good one where he took on the Nazi's, I always thought it inspired Indiana Jones), on TV, in the future, as a young man.
The original stories will stand the test of time. What anyone chooses to do with it in the meantime is almost irrelevant.
He's as much your character as he is Conan Doyle's these days (at least you're still alive). Feel free to write a better version. He seems to be a character that people enjoy watching as he returns time and time again.