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Herodreamer79
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Scream was great, good characters and an awesome twist at the end... plus its just fun to watch thanks in large part to the shameless overacting by Matt Lillard and Jamie Kennedy. Sure it got run into the ground with how popular it was when it came out, and its two worthless sequals... but never the less it was one of the better slasher flicks in the last 10 years.


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Phil,
I didn't know they made a Dracula vs Frankenstein.  Was it any good?

herodreamer,
I might have to watch Scream, I've seen the Scary Movies (I know they rag on everything and I didn't care for them much)

I think Scary Movie 3 had to be the funniest one though.  It made me want to watch The Ring.

On other scary movies.  I haven't watched The Mothman Prophesies, I dont even know what its about.  Has anyone seen it?

I watched The Others.  That one threw me for a loop.

The Haunting - I enjoyed that movie, the little cherubs freaked me out though, I hate cherubs.

Sixth Sense, that one got me too.

I have not seen The Village, I want to.  Was it any good?  I haven't seen Signs yet, how was it, I heard it was kind of stupid.


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Dracula vs Frankenstein...Scream...the Scary Movies...Scary Movie 3...
The Mothman Prophesies...The Others...The Haunting...Sixth Sense...The Village...Signs


Um....not to be a nudge or anything, IceRose -- but none of these movies could be classified as a slasher -- unless you count Scream -- and even that one is pushing it a bit.


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Bert, hush! She's asking about some halfway decent movies here...

The Signs is good if you accept it for what it REALLY is: a character sketch about a priest who has lost his faith due to the death of his wife. The alien invasion is a backdrop to tell the story on.

The Village is also very, very clever, but its suspense is only good the first time around. Don't let anyone tell you the big secret before you watch it or the whole film is spoiled.

I loved the Others. Another small, simple film with a rather big twist on it.


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Um....not to be a nudge or anything, IceRose -- but none of these movies could be classified as a slasher -- unless you count Scream -- and even that one is pushing it a bit.


Yes I realized this.  On a later post I said that I should have called this Horror and general as movies outside that topic were important to the discussion.  And I figured since I started the topic, the author wouldn't get mad at me for going a bit off course

George,
I've noticed that on other films as well.  If you accept it for what it is, they can be pretty good, all hype aside.  That's how I try to watch movies, it makes it more enjoyable.  The one main thing that will stop me from watching a movie for what it is, is logic holes.  Writers who either bend, break, or simply ignore basic logic for the sake of their story.  I hate that!

I really want to watch The Village.  I hope my story Town Curfew isn't too close to it.  I wrote it before I even heard of The Village.  I don't think it is, but I guess I will see when I watch it.

Has anyone watched the others?


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Phil,
I didn't know they made a Dracula vs Frankenstein.  Was it any good?.


It was a good movie, considering when it was made.  It was still when both franchises were on their ways out.

I made the comparison as Jason was the equivilant of the brutish Frankenstein while Freddy was the classy and intelligent Dracula.  Brain vs brawn.


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Has anyone watched the others?


"The Others" was pretty good -- probably better in a theater than at home -- and it's not really not much of a spoiler to say that the folks who made that movie were keenly aware of "The Sixth Sense" and its very broad appeal.

"The Village", on the other hand, was one of the few films I've seen that actually managed to piss me off.


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The Village is one of those movies people love or hate... theres not much of a gray area there... i think its safe to say Shyamalan's trademark twist appeal backfired drastically on him. a movie that is building up to something quite fantastic and then sort of just comes down with a thud (mutch like the way i felt with History of Violence, but thats not a of this genre)

I really liked The Others...i thought the twist was fantastic... the kids were great fun to watch... and i'm normally not a Nicole Kidman fan, but i liked her a lot in that movie.

How about Rob Zombie's "Devil's Rejects"


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I haven't seen the devil's rejects, don't really have any desire to.  I enjoy Rob Zombie's music, but the story does not interest me, at least not the commercials.

Bert, do tell, why did it make you angry, or is it something i'm going to have to see first then ask, or perhaps by then I will know.

I haven't seen History of Violence either.

Has anyone seen The Mothman Prophesies.  I have seen the title mentioned in several places but have not seen it nor do I know anything about it.

Phil, would you recommend Dracula vs Frankenstein?


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I would recommend no one answering the question of why they feel the way they do about The Village until you watch it for yourself. Seriously, the spoiler here is a big spoiler and can ruin the whole feel of everything. Personally, it didn't bother me; it just made the movie watchable only once to get the full effect.

I would like to have a full blown discussion about this movie and why it did or didn't work for some people, but to do so here, would ruin it for you.


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Bert, do tell, why did it make you angry, or is it something i'm going to have to see first then ask, or perhaps by then I will know.


Is it a spoiler to say that a movie is completely idiotic?  And not just the end either -- I can't even count the number of eye-rolling moments in this movie.  Here -- I'll give you one -- out of dozens --

There is red paint on the doors -- somebody speculates that "the wolves did it" -- another character says, with all seriousness, "Wolves can't reach that high."

What?? Since when can wolves even paint?  This movie is full of lunatic stuff like that.

And don't tell me this movie "looks great".  Sure, it's shot beautifully.  Who cares?  This movie is so stupid my brain fell out.


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haha Bert that is hilarious and so true.  Logic fallacies always get me.

I will rent it George, and when I do we will have that discussion.  It sounds like an excellent movie to demonstrate what works and what doesn't.


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Is it a spoiler to say that a movie is completely idiotic?  And not just the end either -- I can't even count the number of eye-rolling moments in this movie.  Here -- I'll give you one -- out of dozens --

There is red paint on the doors -- somebody speculates that "the wolves did it" -- another character says, with all seriousness, "Wolves can't reach that high."

What?? Since when can wolves even paint?  This movie is full of lunatic stuff like that.

And don't tell me this movie "looks great".  Sure, it's shot beautifully.  Who cares?  This movie is so stupid my brain fell out.


I apparently left my critical eye in the closet when I watched this one...


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Didn't I start a thread similar to this awhile ago questioning the amount of horror scripts on this site?
It drifted into debates about defining 'horror' and why most new horror films 'suck' (that was the general consensus I gathered from the thread) nowadays.

Ice Rose I'd be pleased to tell you about some of the films you asked about. If they're good, if they're a 'slasher' film or not, and what they're about. Rottentomatoes or imdb can tell you if they're good by gathering reviews by critics and normal moviegoers as well as giving a plot outline.

You wondered why so many are terrible? Sequels are made because the first made alot of money. Sometimes they put little thought or heart into the sequel because they feel the formula of the first worked and they can play on that. Maybe focus more on the 'killing' portion rather than having to spend half the movie explaining to audiences where the killer comes from and why he kills. Maybe through in a unique kill sequence. Wow. Add more blood. Wow. These sequels of freddys michaels and jasons spawned in the 80s do have camp value.

Just why are they so stupid? Why do they run into the dark room? Umm because the audience wants to see them dead? During a lot of the camp slashers, the filmmakers made a huge mistaken by taken away all empathy a viewer could hold for a lot of the secondary characters. Thus making them expendable victims and their deaths enjoyable. Leading to the predictable formula and low iq conversations they have between eachother.

Why are these dumb victims jocks and cheerleaders. Or partying teens for that matter? Not to offend any nerds out there. But I believe the writers were for the most parts picked on or at the very least 'ignored' by this crowd that was having fun all through highschool. When I was in middle skool i was ok with seeing a cheerleading and some dude getting stabbed while do ggy style (sok if i say that?)

Now that I do some of things  those people in the camp horror films do, underage, under the influence,  I definately see the hate some guy had for these people when he wrote Friday part (fill in the blank any number from 1 to 9). Dr. Tuff Nutz best hypothesis. I don't know crap about psychology so this could all end up being bs. Just my observation.

Some unique slashers exist out there. But unless your a die hard 90lb fanboy 1 or 2 of the franchise ones will be enough. That's my opinion.
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Phil, would you recommend Dracula vs Frankenstein?


If you like the old monster movies, then I recommend it.


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