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dogglebe
Posted: March 29th, 2006, 9:50pm Report to Moderator
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Does anyone like teen-trendy-horror?


Teen-trendy-horror?


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These are trendy films?  They've been around for over thirty years.  That's not what I would call trendy.


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while we're talking about Blair Witch... what about its sister movie "Open Water"  i havent seen it  myself but i've heard polarizing reviews of it.

The Ring was very creepy in the theater... the part with the Horse ....yeeesh


i like trendy teen horror/slasher movies when they are done well....like Scream and Friday The 13th...

i dont know if id call Saw trendy teen horror...as there are no teens in it


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Does anyone like teen-trendy-horror?


I'm afraid this you'll have to define for me. Give some examples. Some people have mentioned some films, but is that what you're referring to?


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I hear the word trendy and I think of something current, but short-lived.  These movies have been around way to long to be considered trendy.


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Oops, I mean like 'Scream' or 'I Know What You Did Last Summer.'

My bad, I don't mean trendy, but I meant the "wave" of teen slasher flicks in the 90's.


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Oops, I mean like 'Scream' or 'I Know What You Did Last Summer.'

My bad, I don't mean trendy, but I meant the "wave" of teen slasher flicks in the 90's.


Not as a whole, I don't like them. Scream was very good, and I've enjoyed some of the others as well.


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I like some of those kinds of films, but not because I see them as being scary. I just really like slasher films, like those from the 80s, and the likes of Scream etc (with some being innovative and others being formulaic) are a continuation of those really. They might not be original, and often the characters are wafer thin, but their entertainment value (for those who enjoy them) mainly comes from creative deaths and set pieces, and suspenseful action sequences. Obviously if a slasher film has an original story, developed characters and good dialogue, as well as all the other stuff (like Scream), then it's even better. But if you don't see these qualities as imperative, you can get enjoyment out them. There were still plenty of terrible slasher entries in the 90s, but personally I think along with Scream there were some that had something to offer:

SCREAM 2 - Better than the first in my opinion. The story isn't as original but the end revelations are still unpredictable. It's a longer film (5 minutes shy of 2 hours!) but feels shorter than the first because it has a better structure. Unlike the first, there aren't big lulls in the middle where no action is taking place, and the deaths and action sequences that take place are creative and suspenseful (Randy's open space/daylight death scene, Gale's chase through the sound room and the cop car sequence are all stand out moments).
I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER - Developed characters, an interesting look at how such an event might destroy a friendship group, a nice build up of suspense and great action filled pay off in the last 30 minutes where Sarah Michelle Gellar steals the show. I don't care if the story is unoriginal lol.
URBAN LEGEND - Wafer thin characters, bad acting (particularly in the big campy reveal, crappy dialogue and ridiculous false scares (the swimming pool scene anyone?) prevent this from being taken seriously, but this has a really cool concept (that I'm surprised wasn't used sooner), a great pace, and the deaths/chases are creative and sometimes chilling because of the creepy stories they're lifted from. It's cheesy fun!
VALENTINE - Sometimes a little flat during moments that could've been much more suspenseful, but again it has some cool death scenes and a clever little twist just before the very end revelation to throw you completely off what should actually be extremely predictable. Again it lacks originality but sort of captures the feel of the 80s slashers.

But like I was saying, these films were once very popular but now look weak in comparison to the more hard core stuff that is coming out. My script is far more reminiscent of the 80s and 90s slasher films, so I don't know if it would actually find much of an audience these days.


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Quoted from Herodreamer79
while we're talking about Blair Witch... what about its sister movie "Open Water"  i havent seen it  myself but i've heard polarizing reviews of it.

The Ring was very creepy in the theater... the part with the Horse ....yeeesh


i like trendy teen horror/slasher movies when they are done well....like Scream and Friday The 13th...

i dont know if id call Saw trendy teen horror...as there are no teens in it



I thought the Blair Witch sequel was Book of Shadows.
I haven't seen Open Water, and I thought it was a shark movie.

I might have to play through Silent Hill 2.  I like creepy games, I don't know why.  Has anyone else played FEAR?  That game was scary, the ending was a bit disappointing until she grabbed on, I about jumped out of my seat on that one.

On the teen horrors, yes on some, no on others.


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Okay, got so quiet all of a sudden.

Has anyone seen Ghost ship, The Fog, and/or Mothman Prophesies.

If you have what were the basics behind the story and were they any good?

Sara


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The Fog (2005) is based on a John Carpenter film from 1980. The remake leaves much to be desired. I haven't seen the original.

I also haven't seen the other two you've mentioned.


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Ah man, I was really looking forward to that.  Seemed like it had a huge scare potential.

Has anyone else watched the other two Ghost Voyage or Ghost Ship whatever its called and Mothman Prophesies?


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Okay, got so quiet all of a sudden.

Has anyone seen Ghost ship, The Fog, and/or Mothman Prophesies.

If you have what were the basics behind the story and were they any good?

Sara


I've seen Ghost Ship and thought it was a good movie.  It was creepy with some good twists.  Julianna Margulies plays the strong woman really well.  It's a shame she hasn't been getting much work lately.  She is in that new movie 'Snakes on a Plane' which is discussed in another thread.


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I've seen Ghost Ship but I don't really remember it all that well (except for the opening scene which despite being a Cube rip off is REALLY cool). I started watching The Mothman Prophecies on TV once but I only saw a bit of it. I personally love The Fog (the original), I think it's creepy and atmospheric and builds up the suspense really well. My advice would be to watch it and decide for yourself. I haven't seen the remake but I've heard it's terrible. I know a lot of people bash remakes but this one is in imdb's 100 worst films of all time! That can't be good lol.


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Ah thanks guys for answering my questions

Okay next question.

What makes a horrors good or bad and give examples.

Thanks

Sara

P.S. And I got to see the Ring, I didn't get half the suspense cause my kids were little terrors but the end was freaky!  Except for the guy's face, I thought that was kind of stupid and detracted from it.


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