I actually enjoyed this movie.

After all the hatred I've thrown toward the horror genre over the past decade I've found myself increasingly enjoying more and more which worries me because I've been starting to dislike my favorite genres which are all the same these days.

The Beauty and The Beast make-up and the plain Jane looking lead girl aside I thought they did a good job breathing new life into this piss poor franchise.

Also I saw tits in the original Nightmare movie when he pulls her into the underwater bathtub world.

They cut that scene from this film because nobody wanted to see her naked.

Quoted from Heretic Glad to hear they'll be ruining Near Dark sometime in the future.

Well, there's hope yet...although they messed up The Hitcher--they relied on  Eric Red's script so much, rewriting it, going back, to and fro, then just cherry picking through Red's script that they wound up giving him a co-script credit!

So...I'd like to think there's hope for Near Dark. I know PD changed its tune on remaking Hitchcock (The Birds) so... call me an optimist.

Yeah. I know.
Pipe Dream.

Fantastically the worst movie I've seen in 5 years.  Easily.  I've seen Youtube video's more entertaining than this shitball.  

Haley as Freddy just didn't do it.  At least Derek Meares was an imposing Jason, regardless of the stupid traps and net shirt.  I couldn't believe how alien Haley was as Freddy.  It was horrible.  He had no intimidation factor.  His make-up looked like something you'd find in a Halloween store.  The whole thing was awful.  All of it.  There were no cohesive characters.  Things just happened.  Cast just came and went and we didn't care why or how.  

There was One time, though, when Haley went to swing at One of the fodder filled cast members and he was so frail and fragile it looked like he actually had to support the gloved hand with his other hand just to have the power to lift it.

Then we got lines like

"I'm just petting him"  "Wake up" "We had the same dream.  Is that even possible?"  "We were just kids... We would've said anything" and the list goes on and on.    This movie is a parody.  A shell of the originals.  And even they sucked.  In reality.

I cannot imagine him coming back for another One.  I just can't.  This franchise, much like the Incredible Hulk and the Punisher needs to be rebooted again and again.  Wash this one away, please.  And I hated the Friday The 13th reboot, but even it was better than this.  Even, dare I say, Halloween 1 and 2, pains me to say that, are better than this.  

Epic bad.

I just re-watched the 1984 (superior) original again for the umpteenth time. Suddenly, it occurred to me something about the remake. Freddy's famous glove.  In the original film, he made the glove to scare small children before he killed them (as Nancy's mother Marge implies as she takes his "knives" out of the heater) but in the update, he only molested the kids, so there was no need for the glove itself. It just shows up in the nightmare.

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley I just re-watched the 1984 (superior) original again for the umpteenth time. Suddenly, it occurred to me something about the remake. Freddy's famous glove.  In the original film, he made the glove to scare small children before he killed them (as Nancy's mother Marge implies as she takes his "knives" out of the heater) but in the update, he only molested the kids, so there was no need for the glove itself. It just shows up in the nightmare.

I didn't gather Freddy, in the absurd trash ass remake, did molest the kids.  In fact, they kind of made it seem he was the victim, which was pretty lame.  Kind of made us feel bad for him (Haley), above and beyond being wrong for the part of course.  They did this with Freddy V Jason too, though.  Made us lobby for Jason over Freddy.  It was stupid.  Made it out to be Jason was the retard puppet and Freddy was the mastermind.  Lame.  I could write for these characters better than the so called pros.  I have a script I wrote for fun for Friday The 13th and it's actually pretty original.  Deals with Jason not being the killer, rather he has a brother, with the help of his mother, who exacts his revenge upon the counselors who neglected Jason and ultimately killed him.

It's called "The Incident At Camp Crystal Lake" -- subject to name change.  I wrote 2 drafts of it and put it up.  I might do a rewrite on it now that I'm back to writing again, actually.  Then again, this isn't about Jason so I'll end my rant with -- Everything about the ANOES remake was absolute garbage.  Haley's piss poor rendition, the acting, the story, the whole shebang!

Quoted from Baltis.   I could write for these characters better than the so called pros.

That is also one of the biggest blunders any aspiring writer can make. FI understand you did it for fun, and mean no harm, but the point I'm making is that most of us sometimes forget that scripts can be rewritten/changed to something that does not reflect the sold script at all. The fault of the film's failure (note that as dumb as they were Freddy vs Jason and Elm Street 2010 still made money, how "failure" is seen is subjective) may not be the fault of the (re) written script alone. Although some of the sequels to Elm Street and Friday were written under the gun when old scripts were tossed weeks before production, or films were rushed into production.

Somehow, these writers got assignments or sold a script. They didn't start out as hacks.

Just sayin'.

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley That is also one of the biggest blunders any aspiring writer can make. FI understand you did it for fun, and mean no harm, but the point I'm making is that most of us sometimes forget that scripts can be rewritten/changed to something that does not reflect the sold script at all. The fault of the film's failure (note that as dumb as they were Freddy vs Jason and Elm Street 2010 still made money, how "failure" is seen is subjective) may not be the fault of the (re) written script alone. Although some of the sequels to Elm Street and Friday were written under the gun when old scripts were tossed weeks before production, or films were rushed into production. Somehow, these writers got assignments or sold a script. They didn't start out as hacks. Just sayin'.

I've sold scripts.  I have a movie in production as we speak called "Deliver Me Death"; a short film... and another one, a feature length, which hasn't started production;"Dog Pound".  I got really real money for these.  I don't do this for a living, either.   I play guitar in a band.  Hack is as subjective as these movies being considered failures...

Just sayin'.

P.S. I didn't mean to come off rude, by the way.  I realized how I sounded and wanted to come back and say it was as subjective as the above statement.  I come off sounded ruder than I am sometimes.

Quoted from Baltis. I've sold scripts.  I have a movie in production as we speak called "Deliver Me Death"; a short film... and another one, a feature length, which hasn't started production;"Dog Pound".  I got really real money for these.  I don't do this for a living, either.   I play guitar in a band.  Hack is as subjective as these movies being considered failures...

I am not questioning what you may or may not have sold. I hope 'Dog Pound' turns out well. But let's say it gets rewritten by the director /studio and he/they messes the whole thing up. Film is released. Folks think it's a crock and some new writer proclaims "I can write better than that!"

Same thing.

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley I am not questioning what you may or may not have sold. I hope 'Dog Pound' turns out well. But let's say it gets rewritten by the director /studio and he/they messes the whole thing up. Film is released. Folks think it's a crock and some new writer proclaims "I can write better than that!" Same thing.

Of course there are other elements that are involved and that's why I went back and edited my post.  I came off sounding rude.  I didn't want that to be the case.  There is always that chance... I think, largely, when you sell to independents and write for budget you don't fall into those traps as easily.  Write by means... Not by pocketbook.  You save those scripts for when you do have that chance.

Quoted from Baltis. Of course there are other elements that are involved and that's why I went back and edited my post.  I came off sounding rude.  I didn't want that to be the case.  There is always that chance... I think, largely, when you sell to independents and write for budget you don't fall into those traps as easily.  Write by means... Not by pocketbook.  You save those scripts for when you do have that chance.

Sounds good.
Of course, just between you and me? I hope that Plat Dunes dumped the Friday The 13th II plans...I'm twisting my fingers that they decide Elm Street II (in 3D) isn't the best thing either.
I'd love to see another jab at Texas Chainsaw if they could, though.

Half of this movie was pretty good. I liked the changes they made to the story, the mystery of whether or not Kruger actually molested them or not was kind of interesting and I really liked the whole prologue with the guy in the diner. Coming in and out of his dream and introducing the idea of those kinds of ideas early in the film was an interesting way of getting the flick out of the gate.

Everything else basically sucked. There was nothing scary about any of the kills, there was no imagination in the dream sequences. Jackie Earl Haley was neither threatening nor amusing and it was impossible to tell any of the characters apart. I kept getting all the leads mixed up because they were emotionless, uninspired and completely uninteresting. I haven't had this much trouble keeping track of people since all the bald guys in Alien 3.

Also, is it just me or did the characters keep falling asleep at extremely strange moments during this film? During class, in the library, in the middle of swim training? Were any of these characters ever actually awake? That seemed fuckin' weird to me.

Waste of time movie. Why do they keep remaking movies that are already as good as they're going to be? I can see why you'd wanna remake something like King Kong, because the technological advances had made it possible to enhance the original ten fold. Hollywood should focus on remaking movies that no one liked. That way if they do it well, then the story finally has a good interpretation, and if not then no one is surprised or disappointed because the original sucked too.

Goddamn Michael Bay. Damn him.

Just saw this on Blu-Ray last night.  What a piece of shit!  Very, very disappointed, as I usually am.

$35 Million budget blown on…on…shit, I don’t know.  FX?  Didn’t look like it.  Big set pieces?  Don’t think so.  Big name actors?  Definitely not.  Who knows.

It raked in $116 Million World Wide, so it’s another big success for Platinum Dunes.  Congrats to them.  How and why it grossed all this is way beyond me.  DVD sales and rentals are also quite big, so we can look forward to a lot more of this garbage.

OK, let the rant begin…

I just don’t understand why 20 something actors are cast as 17 and 18 year olds kids. It just pisses me off to no end.  The cast here ranged in age from 22-25, and for the most part, none of them looked or acted anything remotely close to a 17/18 year old.  Just absolutely ridiculous and stupid.

Casting Jackie Earle Haley as Freddy?  WTF?  Come on now…I have nothing against him as an actor, but this didn’t work and actually makes no sense whatsoever, IMO.  They guy is a whopping 5’ 5”, and 130 pounds after eating a whole turkey dinner.  Far from imposing.  Robert England is no Hulk Hogan, but at least he stood about 5’ 10”.

Freddy’s make-up looked like shit.  I read that it took almost 6 hours to apply at first, and then after they got the hang of it, somewhere around 3 hours, plus a ton of CGI.  It didn’t work.  England’s practical make-up 25 years ago looked better.  Horse shit!

There were so many different angles they could have gone with this.  Being that so much takes place in a dream world, why didn’t they go for it?   Why didn’t they create some cool worlds, some unique stuff?  I’m just shocked how lame the sets were.

And don’t even get me started on the kills and violence, which were just weak.  Nothing stood out at all.

No nudity?  C’mon, man!  Are you frickin’ kidding me?  R rated horror movies need some T & A.  No reason not to offer up some nude babes, or at least some scantily clad bimbos.  Again, just WEAK!

Good point about the glove that was brought up.  In this rehash, there’s absolutely no reason for Freddy to be using his iconic bladed glove.  Another HUGE misstep.

The plot is stupid as well.  They tried to actually bring in some back-story here as to why this all went down, etc.  But they fucked up again, as it didn’t make sense.   Why in the world wouldn’t Freddy just get put in prison?  We’re talking about the mid-late 90’s!  Some whacko molesting children and nothing is done about it?  Yeah, right…

And why all of a sudden, is Freddy coming back for revenge?  Is there any reason whatsoever why this is taking place all of a sudden?  Not that I’m aware of.  Just foolish.

Wait, one more thing…so they throw the kid in jail because they think he killed his girlfriend…and they throw him in a cell with a 43 year old man!  HUH?  WTF is that all about?  Throwing a suspected murderer juvenile in a jail cell with a guy more than twice his age.  I must be missing something, right?  Nope, afraid not.

Based on what I dug up, there were a total of 15 drafts of the script, which were whittled down to 4, and then the final product was a hybrid of those 4.  And this is the best they could come up with?  Well, I guess it really doesn’t matter what the script looked like, cause it made a shitload of money.  No one cares anymore about making a good movie, only a successful one.  And why these loads of crap are successful is just beyond my grasp, I guess.

Pure shit.  I fell asleep 3 times and finally had to reposition myself so I’d be able to see the finale.  Dull, lifeless, cliché-ridden, unoriginal crap!

SPOILERS

I think they tried to sum the whole Nightmare series into this one. Why i think this? There are some memorable scenes in this one from previous movies. For instance, the ending where the girl kills Freddy is an exact rip off from the Freddy vs. Jason ending.

A lot of bad reviews here. Some of them, really bad. And yet, I've noticed this is probably the most bumped movie review of the past year. So I have to ask. Did anyone think this would actually be good? Jeff and Balt, I'm particularly surprised either of you bothered to sit through this so I'm especially curious as to the circumstances in which you guys found yourselves doing so.