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I know I am a little late with this but am I the only one to find this movie to be brilliant. I seriously loved it, Fantastic writing, Great directing and amazing acting, it was really the complete package.
Its really a shame Andy Serkis the actor who played Caesar will most likely not get nominated for any major awards, his performance was awesome.
I cant say enough good things about this movie, Normally I am not a fan of big "hollywood" movies and reboots, but this film (and on many levels its predecessor) shows that if done right these films can still have great quality.
Brilliantly made, but I found it very disturbing morally...perhaps more than any film I've ever seen.
I know that sounds strange, but the film felt like an advert for the war industry. The whole ethos was that it is impossible to avoid violence.
It was also sad to see that humans accept violence so much that they appear incapable of even imagining a world, or a species that's not like them.
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The worst part was where Caesar killed the main bad guy. "Ape not kill Ape"..."You are not an Ape".
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This is classic war time psychology where one side imagines the other as being less than human, something that results in horrific war crimes and a never ending cycle of violence.
To see this disturbed psychology being sold as entertainment to the next generation saddened me on a level I didn't think possible.
No doubt this post will seem silly to many, but it's just something I felt very deeply watching the film. If even our Art is incapable of imagining better ways, there is no hope for humanity.
Good to see Clorox around these boards again. And ST.
I'm still gonna go see this. I can see why there's problems with it, as stated. These days it's hard. But as I said on another thread, "It's only a film."
I take the points made. And I kinda agree, But if you can't do this in a film, where can you do it? People read into them from their own baggage. I use that term for want of a better one.
I'm gonna go see it because few films even worth bothering dragging my lazy ass off the sofa to bother with. But this is one of those. I think I'd regret not doing so. All else I got coming is Interstellar. Nothing else I see entices.
If you know of ones that should be seen widescreen with popcorn, please PM.
Brilliantly made, but I found it very disturbing morally...perhaps more than any film I've ever seen.
I know that sounds strange, but the film felt like an advert for the war industry. The whole ethos was that it is impossible to avoid violence.
It was also sad to see that humans accept violence so much that they appear incapable of even imagining a world, or a species that's not like them.
SPOILERS:::
The worst part was where Caesar killed the main bad guy. "Ape not kill Ape"..."You are not an Ape".
END SPOILERS
This is classic war time psychology where one side imagines the other as being less than human, something that results in horrific war crimes and a never ending cycle of violence.
To see this disturbed psychology being sold as entertainment to the next generation saddened me on a level I didn't think possible.
No doubt this post will seem silly to many, but it's just something I felt very deeply watching the film. If even our Art is incapable of imagining better ways, there is no hope for humanity.
I see where your coming from with this viewpoint but I saw it slightly different. I saw it more as a commentary on the fact that no intelligent human like species can maintain extended peace.
Spoilers
Throughout the film Caesar has the firm belief Apes are better then humans because Apes are one big happy family. This belief is shattered because of the betrayal of Koba and it forces Caesar to realize that the Apes really are no better then humans and this ideal he thought he created was false and destined to fall apart.
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I didnt see it as promoting the war industry but more a simple commentary on human beings warlike nature. Atleast thats how I took it, but after reading your post I can see how it could be interpreted your way as well.
Either way we agree it was a film well worth seeing.
Best movie of the Summer thus far (although I have a feeling Guardians will knock it down to second). Solid story, relatable motives, stellar CGI. A must see by all means.
I saw it today in 3D and wasn't impressed. I often found myself bored. I went with my gf and kids, she loved it, kids were, meh. Same for me really. Story didn't impress me at all. Just the same old, same old, but with chimps. Et tu Brute!