Quoted from Scar Tissue Films It's fairly clear to me that there is a major difference between being outside a stadium and inside one. All those people are inside the Yankee stadium. If they were outside it, they'd be milling around outside those thousand foot walls. Going into a cemetry is like opening a farmyard gate and going into the next field. There is no structure. There is the cemetery and then the Church. You have to go inside a football stadium to enter it and you don't leave the stadium to enter the stands, you are still within the stadium.

But you missed the point here. The action tells the fans where to stand, not the slug. The slug tells the production team where to place the camera.

Quoted from George Willson But you missed the point here. The action tells the fans where to stand, not the slug. The slug tells the production team where to place the camera.

Same difference as far as I'm concerned. If the camera is inside the ground, to me that is an INT.

If the camera is outside the ground (IE outside those huge structures), it is an EXT.

There is no way of logically defining it, as all ways can be contradicted. It comes down to personal opinion. Ron's lighting and weather example is valid, but equally all stadiums and all parts of the stadium are different, so that can be countered. (You wouldn't get wet inside Old Trafford football stadium unless there is severe rain and a very strong cross wind for eg; The lighting in that Yankee Stadium in some parts is extremely dark because of the shadows cast by the tall building).

All that matters is that it is easily understood.

To me the way with the fewest layers of interpretation is that you are either outside the stadium, or inside it. This corresponds to real life.

I think context is also important. It makes sense in the Superman example that it would be EXT, because the majority of the action takes place outside (from the air), so you don't really get a sense of being within the stadium. (BUt as soon as he landed on the pitch, it would to me be an INT.

In my example, if you show someone outside the ground, then inside the stadium it seems very odd to me to not differentiate the two.

The stands and the pitch are physically the interior of the stadium. The exterior of the stadium are the walls from the outside.

But each to their own.

INT./EXT. FOOTBALL STADIUM – DAY

THE PITCH

Both teams stream out of the tunnel to the CHEERS from the stands.

THE TUNNEL

The Manager of the Blues stays back and studies The Manager of the Reds as he runs past him.

IN THE STANDS

A Blues fan searches the arena through a pair of binoculars and focus on the Blues Manager.

Does that resolve the issue??????????????????????????

Quoted from Ron Aberdeen INT./EXT. FOOTBALL STADIUM – DAY THE PITCH Both teams stream out of the tunnel to the CHEERS from the stands. THE TUNNEL The Manager of the Blues stays back and studies The Manager of the Reds as he runs past him. IN THE STANDS A Blues fan searches the arena through a pair of binoculars and focus on the Blues Manager. Does that resolve the issue??????????????????????????

I think that sorts that one. I know exactly where I am and what I'm supposed to be looking at. And that's all that matters.

Instead of creating a separate thread, I'll use this one.

I'm writing a scene that takes place in a hallway.  And I'd like to hightlight the character is outside a certain room.  Now, I would like to write this in the slug, not the action like:

INT. HALLWAY - EXT. ROOM 101

Now, would the seasoned pros find this acceptable?

Quoted from jayrex INT. HALLWAY - EXT. ROOM 101 Now, would the seasoned pros find this acceptable?

Almost, but I would avoid using "EXT." later in the slug to avoid confusion.

Keep it brief, and you can do pretty much whatever you want, as long as you keep it clear.

INT. HALLWAY -- OUTSIDE ROOM 101

INT. HALLWAY -- AT ROOM 101

Anything like that, or something more clever, if you think of it.

Kudos for using an existing thread.  Bonus points.

Cheers Bert, I'll use the Outside example.

INT. HALLWAY (ROOM 101) - DAY

That is standard "today up to date" formatting.  People often feel they can't put times and such in without using a tacky looking "SUPER:" slug too.  You don't need it.  Format as I've told you and you'll do fine.  These people, Bert & Phil aside, know absolutely nothing about screenwriting.  

Why you ask?  

Because they are being taught by other people who also don't know how to write a screenplay.  I stopped listening to people on this site, Phil & Bert aside, when you'd get comments like "You can't use ING words or AND in your action slugs."  This made me laugh hysterically.  These comments also come from un-produced writers, by the way.  Not Phil or Bert or Myself -- Which, after leaving this site, sold Two screenplays; one that is currently in production.

I certainly weighed the options of not posting this for principle -- But I hope this helps.    

Is that you John Wayne? Is this me?

Welcome back, Balt - if you are back. Cute kid.

Balt, you old goat!  What up?  I've needed you, buddy, as I have been under several covert attacks.  Luckily, I had a few supporters.

Hope all is well.

Quoted from Baltis.   These people, Bert & Phil aside, know absolutely nothing about screenwriting.

Quoted from Baltis. I stopped listening to people on this site, Phil & Bert aside

Seems like someone likes to be on their knees  

Quoted from The boy who could fly Seems like someone likes to be on their knees

Sounds like a very mature way to conduct yourself... If only you conduct yourself this well for the day you actually become relevant and, I don't know --> Maybe dream up a script that's worth someone's time to actually see their vision in it?  Until then, I hear there's a huge sale on diapers in aisle 4.  You might need to stock up on them.

Welcome back Balt!

And thanks for the praise.


Phil

Quoted from Baltis. INT. HALLWAY (ROOM 101) - DAY "You can't use ING words or AND in your action slugs."

I like your slug, I'll use that.

It's now getting off subject, but I always wondered why the hate on 'ing' and 'and' words.  I suppose I'm a bit overkill on it sometimes, which really annoys people.

Even Babs says not to use progressive verbs in your scripts and she's an agent.


Phil