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Alan_Holman
Posted: November 8th, 2006, 8:18pm Report to Moderator
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Why isn't there a Heroes thread yet?  I've gotta start one

Heroes is NBC's best new show this season.  My favourite character is Hiro Nakamura whose time-bending power is similar to what some characters can sometimes do in a series of scripts that I write *glee*

Heroes is a damn good ... good ... good ... show.  All of the characters hold my interest.  Awesome stuff.  

Watch Heroes.  

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chism
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Yeah I think this is an awesome show as well. Way better than Lost ever was. I think its a lot more interesting. I agree with Holman. It's a really good show. Can't wait and see what happens in coming episodes. Good old Tim Kring.


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Yeah I think this is an awesome show as well. Way better than Lost ever was.



haha, sorry, Heroes isnt even close to the quality of Lost. Heroes wouldnt even be - without Lost....being as the creator has clearly credited Lost for his show's creation (and ripped it off with it's coicidence driven character connections).... and had help with the development of his story from Lost Co-producer and head writer himself - Damon Lindelof.

the dialogue is clunky and too "on the nose" and the acting isn't nearly on par with the actors on Lost.

plus there's some major plot holes.... how can anything really bad happen when you have a guy who can just go back in time and fix it???? and whats the point of having an artist who can paint the future when you have a guy who can just go foward in time...see what happens...then go back and fix it.

and i'm also wondering why they need to save the cheerleader when she is indestructable. they better bust out some serious f#cking kryptonite on this show soon or else whats the point?


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Alan_Holman
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YOU SAID:  "Heroes isnt even close to the quality of Lost."

MY REPLY:  Well, you're entitled to your opinion.  In my opinion, I've seen the first two episodes of Lost, and it didn't interest me.  HEROES interested me from the first preview I saw.  So, in my opinion, Heroes is better quality than Lost, because Heroes appeals to me personally way more than Lost does.

YOU SAID:  "the dialogue is clunky and too "on the nose""

MY REPLY:  I don't know what you mean by "clunky", but I think that the dialogue keeps the show fun.  And "on the nose" is always good because it helps elevate the story from one point to the next.

YOU SAID:  "how can anything really bad happen when you have a guy who can just go back in time and fix it????"

MY REPLY:  I've dealt with this question while writing my own time-travel stories.  Time-travel can cause a lot of unforseen problems.  The technicalities of fixing even a simple problem with time-travel are difficult when you actually plan out the logistics.  Something "really bad" would be very difficult to solve.

YOU SAID:  and whats the point of having an artist who can paint the future when you have a guy who can just go foward in time...see what happens...then go back and fix it.

MY REPLY:  If you go to the future to prevent something, the lessons that were learned from what was prevented would never be learned.  Or, something worse might take the place of the original event which was prevented.  Or something that would have hapenned later when people were more prepared, might happen sooner, when people aren't prepared.  

YOU SAID:  and i'm also wondering why they need to save the cheerleader when she is indestructable.

MY REPLY:  I don't know.  It's a point of suspense.  And a damn good one too.  And she's not indestructable.  If she gets chopped into enough pieces, and the things which chop her are not removed, she'll probably be defeated.

YOU SAID:  they better bust out some serious f#cking kryptonite on this show soon or else whats the point?

MY REPLY:  All of the characters have clearly defined vulnerabilities.  
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chism
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I agree the show has flaws, but its certainly one of the better shows on the box at the moment. Since The Sopranos has finished until next year some time, I'm now only interested in Heroes, House and The Office, so this keeps my TV schedule a little fuller. I'll also watch Family Guy and The Simpsons, but it's not like I would make a note to watch them, like with the other three.


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SwapJack
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Alan, judging from some of your scripts i have looked at.... i can definetly see why Heroes is right in your zone...

chismeister .... House and The Office are really good shows.


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Although Lost cannot be defeated, even by a show with super powers, I'm looking forward to this coming out on DVD, it looks extremely interesting and I've read wondefrul things about it in entertainment weekly.


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dogglebe
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The premise for Heroes is interesting, though not original.  Unfortunately, the story is grinding to a halt and the writing is pretty bigotted.

The 'save the cheerleader' is pretty obvious as the group will have to save the cheerleader from her father.


Phil
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Alan_Holman
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SwapJack ... Yeah, 'tis is mah zone

Dogglebe ... What do you mean by its story is grinding to a halt?  I think the story is just getting started.  Saving New York will be the initiating incident for a huge saga, I think.  

I don't know if you're right or wrong about "bigotted" writing.  What do you mean?

And yeah, so far it seems like her father's a really bad guy ... but maybe there's a twist and he's actually good.  I guess we'll find out.  The preview for the next episode showed him and said, "And what side is this guy really on?"  So it should be interesting to find out.









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i think he's referring to the sterotypes of the multi ethnic cast... another thing that has bothered me about the show.

the nerdy trekkie japanese character...
the Indian taxi cap driver...
the latin american druggie artist...
the black ex-con...

and so on....


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Quoted from SwapJack

the nerdy trekkie japanese character...
the Indian taxi cap driver...
the latin american druggie artist...
the black ex-con...


The Japanese guy is comic relief and the two black people with powers are bad guys.

The story is slowing down.  Last week's episode only had one action scene (the car accident), which isn't enough for this type of show.  The show has this long story arc, but they're not doing much for now.  We know the politician is a prick.  We know the cheerleader's dad is the big bad.  Give us something to watch now.


Phil

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chism
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They're certainly giving us something to watch now. The last two episodes (Homecoming and Six Months Ago) have been absolutely brilliant. Really good entertainment. I think the story is picking up now. According to http://www.tv.com there is only five episodes left in Season One, but that could be wrong.

*****SPOILERS*****

I just have to say, POOR HIRO. He went back in time to save Charlie from being killed by Sylar but it turns out she was dying anyway. And he spent six months with her and fell in love and everything and in the end, he still couldn't save her. Now that is great drama. Feels like there is something bigger going on, like fate is stepping in or something. He tried to change the past, and she died anyway. It's interesting. To me at least.

*****END OF SPOLERS*****

Anyway, as always, cannot wait until my next weekly fix of Heroes. Now that the Sopranos has finished (until next year at least) I'm only watching this, House and The Office (my personal favourite of all at the moment). Bring 'em on, baby!


Cheers, Chism.
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Since Prison Break is on hiatus I caught Heroes tonight and it has intrigued me, though I had hardly any idea what was going on. However, I caught the gist of who the bad guys are, who the real powerful ones are and their powers. Hopefully NBC will be airing reruns during the holidays so I can be fully caught up by the time the show returns.
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You should definitely try to catch as much of it as you can. Believe me, when you've seen all the episodes so far, it's well worth it. It is a great show.


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dogglebe
Posted: December 4th, 2006, 11:56pm Report to Moderator
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A friend insisted that I watch tonight's (and last week's) episode as they were the last episodes of the year.

The show sucks!

They set the premise in the first two weeks and they decided to drag things along for the rest of the series.  There was no closure.  No climaxes.  Nothing!  Week after week of 'wait until next!'  And next week never comes.

If it wasn't for 'Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip' being on right after Heroes, I would've stopped watching it after thtree or four episodes.



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