The front page of the paper this morning was probably the sickest story I have seen which has now caused me to think what is wrong with human beings?  I know people are capable of doing bad stuff and there are some sicko's out there, but this was done just to hurt someone.  I'm at a point now that I am seriously thinking of moving out in the middle of nowhere away from society and people like this.  I'm sick of seeing so much pain and suffering people cause to one another and I know it won't get better.  Everyday the front page is something bad, but this just, ugh, I'm just disgusted with people, and the sadder thing is, is that this vile evil worthless human being will not go to jail, probably just a fine.  He deserves death!  Hopefully his name and address will be found and posted on the net, maybe some "Italian justice" will put this scumbag in his place.  

This is the story

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=83868f6d-a8d7-44be-be18-433a73fc2695

Unfortunately that's the world we live in today.  I just can't understand some people and how they can do such things, I often wonder HOW they can do such things, do they not have feelings like the rest of us?  I don't think about it too much as it angers me and makes me think of doing things not nice to them, but I guess that would make me as bad, wouldn't it?  Fortunately there are plenty of nice people, shame we only really hear about the arseholes.

A sick thing to do for sure. The fact that he shot a kids puppy shows exactly what kind of chicken ass coward he is. Fortunately one man's actions doesn't define an entire race.

And let's not blow this out of proportion. It was, after all, "just" a dog. Sure, it will be very painful for the cancer surviving boy (nice touch by the way) but far worse things could have happened - could have been the boy.

Quoted from The boy who will never become Attorney General He deserves death!  Hopefully his name and address will be found and posted on the net, maybe some "Italian justice" will put this scumbag in his place.

And this is where you count to ten, boy.

The "it's only a dog" thing dun fly with me, if some fucker blew my dog's head off cause they didn't like me I'd be in jail right for my reaction.  killing a pet is unforgivable, and I can't even imagine the amount of pain this kid must be going through, to actually have brain cancer would be such a huge weight for this kid to carry on his shoulders, when I was 12, the worst I had was maybe a broken arm and a 24 hr erection, I have no clue what it would be like to suffer from such a horrible disease, then on top of that, some prick comes along and shoots my 16 week old puppy in the head for kicks, God, I'd be fucked for life, how another human being could do that to another for absolute no reason baffles and saddens me.  I hope this guy gets it good, and from some of the reactions here he's gonna be toast, at least God willing.

I ain't saying it's right, I'm saying that in an time where airliners are used as missiles, where people are gettiing off'ed left in gang related homicides, where priests are sodomizing alter boys, where innocent are being slaughtered in the name of God and women and children are beeing kept locked in basements by their fathers for years and beaten and molested with no end in sight...I personally wouldn't choose a story about a dead mutt to state that the entire human race has gone crazy.

Don't blow it out of proportion.

wow. that's disgusting!

The situation couldn't have been worse. People who harm animals do so because they don't have the balls to hurt a human being.

Someone was killing dogs and cats at random in my neighborhood. Every night, I heard their squeals and whimpers.

One night, I finally had enough, got out of the house and saw these kids hitting a dog with sticks. I yelled at them and they ran away. There were four of them and one of me--and they ran like bitches.

They stopped for a couple of weeks, then they started again until they finally stopped altogether for some reason.

Those kinds of people are the scum of all scums. Dangerous, pathetic, cowardly, sadistic--if that's not just an inch away from a death penalty or a serial killer, then I don't know what is.

The reason we get so many killers, rapists and mass murderers these days is because no one does anything about them when they're young. No one ever punishes them, so they think it's all right to do it.

--Julio  

Quoted from ReaperCreeper The situation couldn't have been worse. People who harm animals do so because they don't have the balls to hurt a human being.

Oh really? So by that rationale it would have been far better if this guy blew the kid's head off? I can see how that could work - have the poor kid survive a bout with cancer and then kill him. Yeah, that seems almost peachy in comparison...

And when a kid gets maimed by a frenzy dog it's the kids fault, right?

Animal cruelty is exactly that...cruel and people who think hurting animals is fun has got some serious issues that needs to be dealth with. But anyone who ranks an animal's life higher than a human's (yes, even the bad ones) needs to check out their priorities cos' they've got issues too.

Quoted from ReaperCreeper The reason we get so many killers, rapists and mass murderers these days is because no one does anything about them when they're young. No one ever punishes them, so they think it's all right to do it.

You seriously think that punishing them is what's gonna make them realize that what they've been doing is wrong - as if they didn't already know this? Of course they know it's wrong - they just don't care and that's the real problem here. Punishment (and by that I take it you mean physical punishment) would only make the situation worse in my book.

In most cases, people who hurt animals come from violent and dysfunctional homes so adding more punishment on them would only further their psychosis. We're dealing with sick people that need treatment. Sure, killing them would be a lot cheaper but it would also be running away from the real problem.

Quoted from sniper You seriously think that punishing them is what's gonna make them realize that what they've been doing is wrong - as if they didn't already know this? Of course they know it's wrong - they just don't care and that's the real problem here. Punishment (and by that I take it you mean physical punishment) would only make the situation worse in my book. In most cases, people who hurt animals come from violent and dysfunctional homes so adding more punishment on them would only further their psychosis. We're dealing with sick people that need treatment. Sure, killing them would be a lot cheaper but it would also be running away from the real problem.

Punishment would make the situation worse? Further their psychosis?
What a load of crap!? Yes they know it's wrong, but so what! They know they won't get punished.

People should be held accountable for their actions no matter what they've done.
If not, they continue to do the same thing over and over again, while others, who play by the rules, are usually thier victims.

Lets get these sickos to thier nine o'clock appointment with the shrink, let them talk about their tender little killer instincts. Let them get away with it.
It all escalates. Most serial killers start by killing animals. They don't get caught, so they go on to bigger things...

Oh wait!
I forgot!
The poor guy who needs to talk about his feelings was getting barked at by a little puppy. It's not his fault he killed the puppy. He was probably really scared.

Shoot! He was probably a hunter who didn't get to kill anything that day... until...

Quoted from CindyLKeller Punishment would make the situation worse? Further their psychosis? What a load of crap!? Yes they know it's wrong, but so what! They know they won't get punished. People should be held accountable for their actions no matter what they've done. If not, they continue to do the same thing over and over again, while others, who play by the rules, are usually thier victims. Lets get these sickos to thier nine o'clock appointment with the shrink, let them talk about their tender little killer instincts. Let them get away with it. It all escalates. Most serial killers start by killing animals. They don't get caught, so they go on to bigger things...

And this is why the death penalty is such a great deterrent, right?

Please, put the Old Testament and your NRA membership card down and report back when you have something intelligent to say.

Of course people should be held accountable for their actions - nobody's saying otherwise. But arbitrarily punishing/killing them isn't gonna solve the problem in the long run. We need to know how people become capable of doing these evil things. Nobody is born evil, nobody is born wanting to do these things - so what is it that makes them do it?

Sure, strapping everybody into the electric chair would be an easy way out but it would also be an act of defeatism in my book. Giving up and giving in.

Most of us respect life, be it human or otherwise, but there'll always be those that don't care. Should we lower ourselves to their level in order to punish them and dish out 'justice'? Or should we rise above it, and address the reasons behind the actions of these people, rather than reciprocating them?

It's a tricky and controversial subject where you're either for one or the other really, but I don't think we should allow people like this to bring us back down to their primitive level.  We're better than that, and we should show them that.  Violence begets more violence in my experience; the cycle needs to stop somewhere.

Well some news, they caught this evil prick and printed his name int the paper along with the town he lives in.  I smell justice is on it's way

Well that's good.

But yeah, this was awful, but people like him has existed all throughout time. It does seem like things are getting worse, but I just guess you just have to be more careful.

Quoted from The boy who could fly I smell justice is on it's way

And you ask what's wrong with the human race?

Quoted from sniper And you ask what's wrong with the human race?

I did, scum like that are, and he's gonna get it good

Quoted from The boy who could fly The front page of the paper this morning was probably the sickest story I have seen which has now caused me to think what is wrong with human beings?  I know people are capable of doing bad stuff and there are some sicko's out there, but this was done just to hurt someone.  I'm at a point now that I am seriously thinking of moving out in the middle of nowhere away from society and people like this.  I'm sick of seeing so much pain and suffering people cause to one another and I know it won't get better.  Everyday the front page is something bad, but this just, ugh, I'm just disgusted with people, and the sadder thing is, is that this vile evil worthless human being will not go to jail, probably just a fine.  He deserves death!  Hopefully his name and address will be found and posted on the net, maybe some "Italian justice" will put this scumbag in his place.   This is the story http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=83868f6d-a8d7-44be-be18-433a73fc2695

Quoted from sniper And this is why the death penalty is such a great deterrent, right? Please, put the Old Testament and your NRA membership card down and report back when you have something intelligent to say. Of course people should be held accountable for their actions - nobody's saying otherwise. But arbitrarily punishing/killing them isn't gonna solve the problem in the long run. We need to know how people become capable of doing these evil things. Nobody is born evil, nobody is born wanting to do these things - so what is it that makes them do it? Sure, strapping everybody into the electric chair would be an easy way out but it would also be an act of defeatism in my book. Giving up and giving in.

Who said anything about killing anyone? I didn't. I said they should be held accountable for their actions. No probation. No counseling. Jail time. At least six months.

Oh yeah, I don't have a copy of The Old Testament or a NRA membership.

I'm done with this.

I'm a fan of the "Peter Blunt System", myself.  Eye for an eye and all that.

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Okay, enough of all this silly talk about killing people. I think it’s time for a little moderation to enter in here.

First off:

Quoted from The boy who could fly He deserves death!

This is just letting your emotions run wild. An emotional response is understandable. It’s great that people care enough to react so strongly. It’s a beautiful thing. But killing people isn’t the answer here. And separating yourself from society will change nothing.

This type of behavior isn’t new. Every generation thinks things are worse than before but that view doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

Sniper and Cindy:

You are both right. Yes, people need to be held accountable for their actions. But no people shouldn’t just be locked up and the key thrown away without some attempt to rehabilitate them.

It’s true some people won’t accept help and will choose to be a bane on society. And there will be little else we can do but separate them and protect society from them. But it’s also in our best interest as a species to find out why this behavior occurs and how we might prevent it.

The proper thing to do with this guy is to give him a fair trial, and if found guilty, sentence him accordingly. But his punishment should include some attempt on our part to rehabilitate him. If it’s concluded he can’t be rehabilitated, then I would personally hand you the key to toss away.

The point is we have to do what’s in the best interest of society as a whole. It’s not in the best interest of society as a whole to give in to the whims of overemotional people anymore than it is to treat evil assholes too softly.

It’s times like this that people have to calm down and look at things objectively. People like the asshole that killed that dog are among the worst of our species. But people who are able to rationally and objectively deal with the situation are among the best.


Breanne

Breanne, you've given a really good and solid post here that for the most part I agree with, but the trouble is: "I'm a Gemini". Actually, the trouble is that I'm human and have two parts living inside of one body as we all do-- even people like Sniper whose sympathy seems to lie more with the killer of the dog rather than the dog itself and starts spouting off about "putting away the Old Testament" when there is no call for this at all.

Like you said: People need to keep a level head, but we as our human nature dictates often get riled up and can't shut ourselves up.

I struggle with the same thing that all of us here are struggling with: We often think like The Boy Who Could Fly and I ask": How is this wrong? It's natural and instinctive and I ask everyone honestly: If someone were invading your home and threatening your family-- Wouldn't you have similar thoughts? Yes I know that this is a dog, but what some might consider "just a dog", others consider as family and I'm sure that this boy considered his dog to be family.

This is to digress, but I've suffered a lot of pain from losing family memebers, but I've also suffered a lot of pain from losing pets.

None of us can judge the amount of pain one feels from losing anything and so we need to be sympathetic of the situation as a whole.

There are no simple answers to this. I can just as easily think that the guy should be done away with and hope that maybe in the next life, he'll come back and he'll be a little more evolved.

I can also think that maybe, we might be able to rehabilitate him-- who knows?

But really-- what are all these struggles that are put before us? Don't they come from the same place?

It's a hard pill to swallow, but no matter what we do with evil-- it's still going to exist until Gmar Tkun.

There has to be a reason because there is too much perfection in the world that sits across from all of the chaos and destruction. I think that consciousness exists between two polarities which are natural laws of the universe and one cannot feel oneself except according to the sensitivity of feeling opposition ie: hot/cold faith/doubt, east/west, concealment and revelation... and on and on it goes...

I wasn't going to even enter into this thread because I was thinking: Sometimes the most intelligent thing to say (in response to Sniper's post) is nothing at all, but I'm not going to boast as to being so intelligent because in the words of my daughter, as she was watching a video on chemical bonds, "I think this video is making me stupider." I had to laugh, but this is the way I feel.

Sometimes the more we are exposed to and seemingly learn, the more we realize we DON'T know.

So... consider this to be just another one of Sandra's digressions, but I hope that we can bring this thread together on some kind of common ground:

NONE OF US WANTS TO SEE THIS KIND OF THING HAPPEN AND WE ALL SEEK A BETTER WORLD.

In the words of John Lennon:

IMAGINE

(Getting down off of soap box).

Sandra

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. ...even people like Sniper whose sympathy seems to lie more with the killer of the dog rather than the dog itself and starts spouting off about "putting away the Old Testament" when there is no call for this at all.

Sandra, that was a really disappointing remark. Had you actually taken the time to read the entire thread in order and in context then you would know that what your just said there is complete BS.

You're not even taking something out of context - you're just making it up.

Sniper,

The thread speaks for itself and I'm sorry if I've offended you. I'm not speaking BS according to my understanding. According to you, I indeed might be full of a wad, and it's necessary to have your point of view as far as I'm concerned even if I'm not sure what your point of view really is.

At the moment it feels to me that it's only to stir up the already strong emotions that some people have, but my dear-- you can't even hit the tiniest nerve in me. You are my savior though-- because at one time you did also stir those same feelings as expressed by the many sympathies in this thread.

Now, I'm thankful for all of the antagonists and I recognize the purpose that they serve. I must have been one too at some point-- even if I can't remember right now-- the convenience of some kind of cosmic amnesia.

The real smart one here is Mike. He's brought forward the comedy. Well, we've got something to pray for don't we.

Sandra

I do not believe Sniper intended to show empathy for the killer. He only said that it could've been worse--could've been the kid,

Nevertheless, I still stand by my opinion that the killer's deed should not go unpunished, if he did indeed do it on purpose.

Just because it could've been worse, it does not mean that he should get away with what he did. That just gives him the idea that he can do whatever he wants. And no, a fine wouldn't make him pay for what he did. Fines don't do shit.

I say jail-time, if only a week or so.

--Julio

Wow. I didn't even notice Sandra's last post, lol x)

Oh, well...

--Julio

unfortunately this guy won't serve one day in prison, maybe a few hours in a jail cell, but he will get what is coming to him, there are some good folk that won't turn a blind eye to this, not a lot, but the few that don't consider the "it's only a dog" defense.  The act itself is pure evil and you can't rehabilitate evil, a junkie yes, an alcoholic yes, evil no, that would be like rehabilitating Hitler, you can't.  The fact people don't think this horrific and this scum should be handed down with an iron fist is sad.

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. I struggle with the same thing that all of us here are struggling with: We often think like The Boy Who Could Fly and I ask": How is this wrong? It's natural and instinctive and I ask everyone honestly: If someone were invading your home and threatening your family-- Wouldn't you have similar thoughts?

Oh absolutely. I can completely understand. I’ve had someone try and break into my apartment before while I was home. I can completely understand the fear and the anger. Yes of course it’s natural. But going on about killing people over it is really just a way of dealing with fear, anger, and a sense of helplessness.

Let’s face it; most people don’t actually kill people over this stuff. Jordan says he would be in jail if it happened to him. But honestly, most likely he wouldn’t kill the person. He’s just working through his fear and anger.

Most people do what the people in the news story did. They let the police handle the situation. They caught the guy and now he’ll face justice. Those people did the right thing and they’re no less because of it. They don’t love their pet less because they didn’t kill the person. They just did the right thing.

Certainly the emotion is understandable. But talking about killing people is just indulging in one’s anger.

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. There are no simple answers to this. I can just as easily think that the guy should be done away with and hope that maybe in the next life, he'll come back and he'll be a little more evolved.

That’s just it. We don’t know there will be a next life. We have no idea what happens to us consciously after we die. What we know for sure is that we have this one life - the one we’re living right now. And that’s it. That’s all we know with certainty. Everything else is just wishful thinking. It might be nice thoughts. It might even be true. But it’s not certain.

No one knows how or why some people, for example a rape victim, might forgive her victimizer while another might declare the killer of his dog unforgivable and deserving of death, or even kill the person. Maybe in someone else’s shoes I might become the executioner. But while in a rational state of mind, there’s no question that the executioner is wrong.

I agree that sniper shouldn’t have drug the Old Testament comment into the conversation. In fact, I don’t agree with his comment to Cindy at all, about reporting back when she has something intelligent to say. I think that was totally uncalled for and I personally think he owes her an apology for it.

So yes, of course, I sympathize with people who experience tragedy. But I don’t agree with lynch mobs either. As a species, we have to let cooler heads prevail, even when it’s against our gut fear-based or anger based reactions.


Breanne

I don't explicitely disagree with Sniper. He's got an opinion of "the way of looking at the situation". How can this be wrong? He's just expressing himself and it collides at angles with the way some others are perceiving it.

We might both be witnessing the same car accident, but from different angles, we might see a very different picture. I think that life is this way. At the same time I always ask questions like: Did I ask to be five foot three, have hazel eyes and have such a stupid soft heart that it hurts? Likewise: Does the person with a fighting instinct, willing to tear their competitor down and maybe even steal from the pot in order to get ahead have any more free will than I?

How is it that I might take credit for my good traits, but cast off my negative ones as something as a mishap-- a mistake of the Gods... and further: If I can cast off my negative traits as a result of chaos, then shoudn't I equally attribute some terrible evil exhibited by criminals-- an evil that we can't logically reconcile-- to an inherited or predestined factor?

Today, it's being proved that there are genes for everything. There are genes that make one more docile, genes that lead towards one being an alcoholic, genes that make one predisposed to a kind of obsessive compulsive disorder. The research continues and the findings are a bit scary because we start to see that we might not have the choice we thought we did.

But there still is choice. After the determinations on the x,y axis are finished and over with, there is another level of development that extends beyond flatland and even the 3rd level of depth; this is the construction of understanding based upon the incorporation of varying points of views and desires and integrating them as a unified whole.

Perhaps one of our first obstacles is to be able to reconcile and integrate understanding between our apparent separation so that we learn to see the whole
picture.

I'm still considering the question from The Boy Who Could Fly: What is Wrong With the Human Race?"

It seems to me that if we were all hooked up to umbilical cords for all of our lives and there were no obstacles and nothing to challenge us, we might not really consider ourselves alive as we understand the idea of "aliveness" today.

Anyways my dear-- don't give up on us. I've met many good humans in the last while and I know that there truly are many positive reasons for carrying on.

Thank you for developing the thread.

Sandra

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. ...and I'm sorry if I've offended you.

Nope, just disappointed.

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. ...even if I'm not sure what your point of view really is.

And yet you had no trouble with painting me a certain way.

Quoted from ReaperCreeper I do not believe Sniper intended to show empathy for the killer. He only said that it could've been worse--could've been the kid.

Exactly. My point was that I value a human life higher than an animal's.

Quoted from ReaperCreeper I still stand by my opinion that the killer's deed should not go unpunished

And I totally agree with that - I just don't buy into the whole eye-for-an-eye approach. Like Breanne said, rehabilitation (and rehabilitation doesn't exclude jail time at some point) for those who actually want help and for the rest - lock 'em up and throw away the cell.

Quoted from The boy who could fly The act itself is pure evil and you can't rehabilitate evil, a junkie yes, an alcoholic yes, evil no, that would be like rehabilitating Hitler, you can't.  The fact people don't think this horrific and this scum should be handed down with an iron fist is sad.

You see, this is where you lose me. Comparing this guy to Hitler is, imo, simply blowing things waaaaay out of proportion. It's like saying every kid who's ever pulled the wings off a fly or whacked a harmless spider will grow up to become Jeffrey Dahmer. This guy gonna get the punishment the law sees fit to lay on him.

This extremism and radicalism is, in my book, exactly what's wrong with the human race.

Quoted from Breanne Mattson I agree that sniper shouldn’t have drug the Old Testament comment into the conversation. In fact, I don’t agree with his comment to Cindy at all, about reporting back when she has something intelligent to say. I think that was totally uncalled for and I personally think he owes her an apology for it.

Oh, really?

So when Cindy said...

Quoted from CindyLKeller What a load of crap!

Quoted from CindyLKeller Lets get these sickos to thier nine o'clock appointment with the shrink, let them talk about their tender little killer instincts. Let them get away with it.

Quoted from CindyLKeller The poor guy who needs to talk about his feelings was getting barked at by a little puppy. It's not his fault he killed the puppy. He was probably really scared.

...I should not view this as a complete and deliberate misinterpretation of what I said in an earlier post?

If that wasn't the case then, Cindy, I apologize, I obviously misunderstood you.

There's no need for ill feelings between any of us here.  We're human, and we all have our own beliefs.  Despite the differing views on punishment, we have all said that what this criminal did was heinous and wrong and that action should be taken to address the crime, and I believe the vast majority of people would agree.

In response to the title of the thread - we shouldn't generalise the entire human race by the actions of the few.  The fact that we all condemn what the man did, shows that humans aren't all that bad!

It's easy to be clouded and bogged down with a negative view of life, perhaps due to the image the media feeds us of the world on a daily basis; but we should try to keep in mind that for all the bad in the world, there's a heck of alot of good too.

Quoted from sniper ...I should not view this (what Cindy said) as a complete and deliberate misinterpretation of what I said in an earlier post?

Sniper,

I think a lot of people misunderstood your viewpoint and thought you were suggesting the dog’s killer should receive a punishment of therapy exclusively. And I think people assumed you meant outpatient therapy on top of that. I think they envisioned the punishment you suggested as the guy showing up for a few therapy sessions and otherwise completely getting away with what he’d done.

Then throw on top of that mix the fact that the guy you’re citing in the “human over animal” argument is a guy who killed a dog and you get some high emotions.

I understood the point you were making because I assumed you were being practical; that there was more to it than what you were literally saying. Some people made assumptions toward the literal interpretation of your words and determined you were being too easy on the guy.

So should Cindy have said the “load of crap” remark and others? No. According to her understanding of what you were saying, was it right? Not really. Understandable? Yes.

But on the other hand, should you have told her to report back when she had something intelligent to say? No. But given what you were responding to, was it right? Not really. Understandable? Yes.

I think you were both right and both wrong in that little exchange above.

And I completely agree with you that Jordan is blowing this all out of proportion. Personally, I think (hope) he’s full of crap when he talks about killing people. There’s no question in my mind that Jordan is extremely sensitive and often responds on pure emotion. On the subject of bullies, he had this to say:

Quoted from The boy who could fly Bullies have no place anywhere other than rotting in hell where they belong, they are along side with rapists and pederasts as the lowest forms of life.

He often makes blanket, all encompassing, remarks attempting to associate someone or something he doesn’t like to some atrocity.

Jordan is quick to call people irretrievably evil, unforgivable, beyond redemption, and cast them into hell for all eternity with no hope of reprieve. He’s quick to give up on people.

There’s a saying: “The measure of your hate is the meter of your pain.”

I think Jordan has a lot of anger built up in him and, for whatever reason, has decided to carry it around with him. When he lashes out with these disproportionate rants about people being unforgivably evil - comparing dog killers to Hitler and such - I always look at him as a young man who’s really trying to get something else out. Something personal.


But back to you and Cindy:

I see both sides and I think the exchange between you two was all a big misunderstanding.


Breanne

Quoted from Breanne Mattson He also refers to reviewers who offer format advice on scripts as format Nazis. Nazis? Yes Nazis. So yes, he blows things waaaay out of proportion.

That one's a little out of context.  It's really no more associative with the actual atrocity than the "Soup Nazi".

Breanne,

You should be a mod (no offence to any other mod here). That is one soothing voice you have - at least that is what it reads like.

Quoted from Shelton That one's a little out of context.  It's really no more associative with the actual atrocity than the "Soup Nazi".

Mike,

If it was said by someone who didn’t ordinarily vilify people with such extremity, I would agree. But in Jordan’s case, I think it points to a pattern of behavior.

But I see your point and I generally agree with you. In the interest of keeping the focal point from becoming the “format Nazi” comment, which is far from the main point I was trying to make, I apologize for it and I’ll remove it and retract it from my earlier post.

Thanks Mike.


Breanne


[EDIT -- “Format Nazi” comment removed.]

Quoted from sniper Breanne, You should be a mod (no offence to any other mod here). That is one soothing voice you have - at least that is what it reads like.

That’s very sweet. I’m glad it reads that way. I try and get all my anger, frustration, etc., out in my scripts. It doesn’t always work but I try.


Breanne

Quoted from Breanne Mattson I try and get all my anger, frustration, etc., out in my scripts.

I usually just take it out on my kids - I'm kidding, I'm kidding

Quoted from sniper Breanne, You should be a mod (no offence to any other mod here). That is one soothing voice you have - at least that is what it reads like.

I'll second that. Nearly half the people listed on this site as mods are no longer active. Brea would be a great mod.  

Sniper,

I do apoligize for the comments I made because I DID misunderstand your post.
Yes, I thought you had wanted a sicko like him to only get his head checked.
That's why I blew up. Sorry.
I should know better than to comment on threads like these.
Peoples personal feelings can kick up a big stink.

Now I am done with this thread and any more threads like this, too.

WTF!  all you people are freaking out over a puppy killer? A Puppy! When American military are killing women and children in Iraq or people of Palastine who are poor have to resort to turning themselves into explosives to fight against Israel who occupies their land. Or the vile poor working conditions China labourors have to suffer to boast the current China's economy

You people make me sick.  

Quoted from tonkatough WTF!  all you people are freaking out over a puppy killer? A Puppy! When American military are killing women and children in Iraq or people of Palastine who are poor have to resort to turning themselves into explosives to fight against Israel who occupies their land. Or the vile poor working conditions China labourors have to suffer to boast the current China's economy You people make me sick.

I'd really watch what you say before stirring the pot again...

Just FYI

What is wrong with the human race?

I heard an absolute beauty at work yesterday, which I'm going to keep to myself for a future script. But when I heard it, I couldn't help but think that some people are so freaking sick that putting them down (like you do a sick dog) would actually be an act of mercy. I'm not usually pro-death penalty, but sometimes people do things that make me question that position.    

Man -- the mods hate it when threads like this get started.

I want to avoid them -- but have to read every single post to make sure things are not getting out of hand -- and then, try to define exactly what "getting out of hand" actually means.

There is name-calling and hurt feelings -- all mixed with the compelling arguments about freedom of expression.  Locking threads sucks.

Just putting all of that out there, along with a few wise words from my friend Cindy

Quoted from Cindy Now I am done with this thread and any more threads like this, too.