Who wrote the leaders? I am "guessing" Rick wrote Eternal Suffering. Would love to know the others.

This thread has pretty much lost all interest from the writers and readers now. I don't know what "the boss" is waiting for. I guess, Iscripts? This is the most stretched out OWC I've ever been a part of...

James

I voted for The Last Stop. It was orignal, fun, gripping and kept me on edge. The ending was a little confusing but it was a really good read.

Open Casket was good, but cliched to hell. It was so predictable from page one. I'd put another several above it personally, but each to their own.

I think Allured outdid Open Casket on the twist and had a better story. The Executioner had a much more riveting feel about it. Quite a few others had more story than Open Casket, yet I guess it did have superior writing and that was that won it?

Quoted from Scoob Open Casket was good, but cliched to hell. It was so predictable from page one. I'd put another several above it personally, but each to their own. I think Allured outdid Open Casket on the twist and had a better story. The Executioner had a much more riveting feel about it. Quite a few others had more story than Open Casket, yet I guess it did have superior writing and that was that won it?

Or herd mentality.
While I really liked it a lot and would like to see it made, I would have it thought it would be more of a close horse race with a few others.

Quoted from DarrenJamesSeeley Or herd mentality. While I really liked it a lot and would like to see it made, I would have it thought it would be more of a close horse race with a few others.

Nah- at least speaking for myself, I'd rate OC in my top four.  I'd consider The Last Stop's popularity more a case of herd mentality.  No offense whatsoever meant toward the writer - it's an entertaining story, but too unfocused for me to give it the top slot.

Yes, there was a bit of cliche in OC - but given the gothic vibe we were reaching for, that's not a bad thing.  As long as the story and atmosphere worked.  

Of course, if bumping OC meant more votes for mine, that's not a bad thing...     (Just kidding, just kidding...)

But yeah - this OWC reveal is really dragging out.  I'm done.  Let's please get the reveal underway!

I'm surprisingly going to have to agree with Janet for a change.

Last Call/Stop definitely seemed to be a herd mentality kind of thang.

Open Casket was the real deal.

Still surprised how peeps question its superiority, and continually knock its story.  How anyone can vote for a poorly written script, or downright unreadable script is way beyond my comprehension.

I made a point this OWC, which most of you didn't appreciate - if a script has numerous flaws out of the gate, poor or ridiculous dialogue, logic, or anything else of that nature, I shut it down immediately - just like any "real" reader would do.

That only left a handful of scripts that actually were even worth reading.

I'm still amazed that a vast number of scripts received a vote - have to wonder if the writers actually voted for tehmselves of their "buddies".  Hmmm...I wonder...

For the writer's choice I "recommended" a few I thought were sensibly produceable and then checked several for "consider".


For readers choice I voted for the story I enjoyed the most.
P!ss on challenge criteria or format.


Caveat: I didn't read all of the entries.
I think I have yet to get to a dozen of them, but did read both the current top two reader's choice entries.

Quoted from jwent6688 I did give my own script a consider. I think its in the top ten, call me a douche bag.

I don't at all think that makes you a douche bag, or other epithet.

Look, many of us who've read more than plenty of these know what's good and what's cr@p.
If your story's good then it's good.
If it's cr@p then it's cr@p.

I'm pretty sure when political candidates go into the booth to vote that there isn't some "gentleman's agreement" to not vote for themselves.
Screw that on a hanging chad.
I'm voting for me - unless my screenplay was generally panned, in which case it's kinda nutty to argue that the whole SS-world is crazy.

Quoted from jwent6688 Thought this was a reader only thread. Anyway, I would've just chalked up another vote for OC if I had.

May very well be a faux pas on my behalf, then.
I consider them different votes for different things.
The writer's more conservative, akin to a jury award.
The reader's more liberal, akin to what the public enjoys.

On the ballot, I only gave one recommend. I think eight considers. I did give my own script a consider. I think its in the top ten, call me a douche bag. I did not vote on this thread, though. I didn't think writers were supposed to. Thought this was a reader only thread. Anyway, I would've just chalked up another vote for OC if I had.

James

Jeff, I've been reading a lot of scripts over the last few months that have all been recently optioned, some already moving toward production. Some are done by pros, some by new writers. There is one thing they all have in common. In each and every case, within a few pages, you find things that would frankly cause you to shut down the read. Orphans, underlined words, asides, bold text...there's always at least one of those elements, usually more than one. But yet these are successful spec scripts. Not shooting scripts, not scripts commissioned with old veteran scripts, but modern spec scripts. If you want, PM me and I'll tell you more where to read these.

There is not one producer, director or actor in the world who will judge scripts on these merits. Not one. Why should we? Why should we stop reading a script because it's not formatted and written according to SS standard 101 rules? Why should those rules be the litmus test we use when determining which script to vote for?

I thought Open Casket was expertly crafted. Not surprised it's winning. But I would not eliminate other scripts from consideration because they had an orphan or an aside or something. No "real" reader would. Someone who is hunting for a script to shoot as a film is not going to care about those things. Would you? I mean seriously, let's say someone gives you 25K and says find me a script and shoot it, something that will leave a mark as a film. Will you give two hoots about asides in your search? You've got 25k, and one shot at this thing. That puts you under pressure to find the best story you can. The very last thing you will care about is the construction of that script. The construction matters, because it reflects the experience and competency of the writer, but it's WAY behind things like the premise, the settings, the story, the dialogue. It just is.

James, I did the same thing. I would never vote for my own script, but on a list like that, what was I going to put: did not read? or pass? so I put consider.

I gave 2 recommends(Last and Open) and about 8 or 9 considers. There were 4 I never read, unfortunately.

There were a few stories that were pretty well written, even very well written, that I passed on. Why? Because a script is often fixable, but not a bad premise. Some stories, for me, just could never be fixed because the concept was off. Most of the passes were stories that had decent concepts, but were just in need of too much repair. It didn't seem fair to give them a consider.

I didnt vote for mine either, no reaason, I assumed it wouldnt be fair. Maybe I should have, would have been at least one more vote...oh wait, one vote sorry. :]

While I did put mine down on a 'consider', when it comes to the poll above I did not vote for my own. The revision is in waiting; I added a few pages, took a few small things out. Would I vote for it in the top three now? No.

Anyone voting for their own script should think about running for office...

I voted for, not the best script, but the script I felt fit the challenge the best.  I can name 5 scripts better than the one I voted for, but none matched the criteria as well...

I voted for the script I enjoyed the most (not my own) but it had to fit the criteria of the challenge, otherwise, what's the point?
And alot of the entries were way off the mark on the criteria.
Gothic by its very nature has become cliche because of the staple imagery and feeling that MAKES it gothic.
I prefer to call them tropes.

For the pass consider recommend vote, I was kind to my script, as well as others that I considered equal...or better....scripts...  But for the single vote, I didn't consider it fair or sporting to vote for my own.  That just seemed wrong to me.  Maybe I should have....though I stand by my vote for forever thine...