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ReneC
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Quoted from Zack


Cut back the dialog. It takes up so much space. Just keep what is absolutely essential to the story.


I have, but the dialogue is all that makes us care about anybody in this script. I'll be able to tighten it up, it's just harder than previous rounds.


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Quoted from Zack


Cut back the dialog. It takes up so much space. Just keep what is absolutely essential to the story.


FADE IN:

INT. CHURCH SANCTUARY - NIGHT

Two ninjas, completely undifferentiated in every way, face each other then look at a trading card sitting on an altar for no good reason whatsoever.

NINJA 1
’Sup.

NINJA 2
’Sup.

* elaborate multi-page fight description *

FADE OUT.


Feature-length scripts:
Who Wants to Be a Princess? (Family)
Glass House (Horror anthology)

TV pilots:
"Kord" (Fantasy)
"Mal Suerte" (Superhero)

Additional scripts are listed here.
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ReneC
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FADE IN:

INT. CHURCH SANCTUARY - NIGHT

Two ninjas, completely undifferentiated in every way, face each other then look at a trading card sitting on an altar for no good reason whatsoever.

NINJA 1
’Sup.

NINJA 2
’Sup.

* elaborate multi-page fight description *

FADE OUT.


Job done.  


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Gary in Houston
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Quoted from FrankM


FADE IN:

INT. CHURCH SANCTUARY - NIGHT

Two ninjas, completely undifferentiated in every way, face each other then look at a trading card sitting on an altar for no good reason whatsoever.

NINJA 1
’Sup.

NINJA 2
’Sup.

* elaborate multi-page fight description *

FADE OUT.


I would score this 5’s across the board.


Some of my scripts:

Bounty (TV Pilot) -- Top 1% of discoverable screenplays on Coverfly
I'll Be Seeing You (short) - OWC winner
The Gambler (short) - OWC winner
Skip (short) - filmed
Country Road 12 (short) - filmed
The Family Man (short) - filmed
The Journeyers (feature) - optioned

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One good thing about this suggestion is that I've often found that if a script gets ripped bad upon the first review... it usually always effects the reads. I do not look at the reviews before I read the script but I assume the first review is HARD to miss...

By scoring the scripts and after the scoring is done then posting the feedback, it would eliminate that stuff affecting or swaying reads maybe.

Good idea Rick.


I'm torn.

The logistics are problematic.

I like to post comments while the read is still fresh in my mind.  I don't want to have to save a file and come back and cut and paste on each thread. From the site perspective, I think it may be difficult to hold all comments in hyper space - maybe not.

Not sure the premise is correct anyway - I have seen threads where the earlier reviewers didn't like it and those that followed did and vice versa.



My Scripts can all be seen here:

http://dlambertson.wix.com/scripts
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ReneC
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I don't see any reason not to post comments right away.


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Quoted from Warren
Quick question...

Can my script feature next to a church but not necessarily in it?


Kind of depends IMO.

A church is the location - that would include Church grounds. i.e., there could be an epic battle on church grounds (as there often is) and I would say - okay.

What I would not favor is if the church (inside or outside) is incidental to the story. e.g.,

- Opening image - A man leaves a confessional with a stolen trading card in his hand and walks out of a Saint Patrick's Cathedral. Then there are four and a half pages of the police chasing him.

- A battle is going on in the Streets of Manhattan - Saint Patrick's cathedral in the background.

Long winded way of saying - regardless of whether it is inside or outside, it should be central to the story.






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ReneC
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Kind of depends IMO.

A church is the location - that would include Church grounds. i.e., there could be an epic battle on church grounds (as there often is) and I would say - okay.

What I would not favor is if the church (inside or outside) is incidental to the story. e.g.,

- Opening image - A man leaves a confessional with a stolen trading card in his hand and walks out of a Saint Patrick's Cathedral. Then there are four and a half pages of the police chasing him.

- A battle is going on in the Streets of Manhattan - Saint Patrick's cathedral in the background.

Long winded way of saying - regardless of whether it is inside or outside, it should be central to the story.




If the church is relevant in some meaningful way, that would count for me. Being on church property? Sure. But just in the background? No.


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Quoted from ReneC
I don't see any reason not to post comments right away.


If it's possible, I agree with everyone on this.

I don't see a problem posting comments right away. I don't think it affects (too much) other reviews. I'd like reviews hidden until it's over. I'd like to do my review immediately after reading. Even if it does affect the scoring, it doesn't matter.

Did I cover everything? Those are all true statements for me.

It's a fun challenge, with minimal stakes, designed to motivate to write. As long as that's the base... the rest is just details.

If you HAD to pin me down... I would want to write my review immediately after reading... and as soon as the voting closes... up pops my review. (Though, there is some fun in watching the reviews flow back and forth, good to bad to good to worse)

But, don't mistake my opinion for dissatisfaction. All is good as is.


PaulKWrites.com

60 Feet Under - Low budget, contained thriller/Feature
The Hand of God - Low budget, semi-contained thriller/Feature
Wait Till Next Year - Disney-style family sports comedy/Feature

Many shorts available for production: comedy, thriller, drama, light horror
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It seems the only reason this keeps cropping up is because people have issues with certain reviews.

We can't dictate how reviewers review. What we can do is refrain from arguing against them. But if we really want to do that, is that a terrible thing? It breeds discussion, it makes things lively, and it's often from passionate people. Why would we want to stifle that?

The negativity piles up and that's a killjoy for sure. This is supposed to be fun. For me, part of that fun is reading the reviews, and I won't bother reading anyone else's if they're all posted at once. It's too much reading. I'll just focus on my own and move on. I also like reading other reviews before posting my own, for a variety of reasons. I think it's useful and informative to do that.

There's no way to stop other people from being negative, but we can choose not to give in to it. And we can choose to bow out of a conversation entirely. Nobody has a gun to our heads demanding we read everything here. I've left threads countless times, returning to them a few dozen posts later to see if the mood has improved before contributing again. And I've knee-jerked posts countless times and then deleted them without posting because I realize I don't really need to say anything, just let it go.

Maybe if we all did that a little more things wouldn't get so bogged down in in-fighting.


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Quoted from ReneC


If the church is relevant in some meaningful way, that would count for me. Being on church property? Sure. But just in the background? No.


makes sense


My Scripts can all be seen here:

http://dlambertson.wix.com/scripts
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No sh*t, there I was....

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It's up to the reader to read and post their review prior to reading other reviewers opinion. Simple as that. If someone is not confident of their opinion and are in fear of being ridiculed for liking/disliking an entry that others feel strongly opposite, there's no helping that.

I reviewed an entry in round three that I thought was lower tier, posted my review, and found out that most everyone else loved it. Still don't get it.
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I'm torn.

The logistics are problematic.

I like to post comments while the read is still fresh in my mind.  I don't want to have to save a file and come back and cut and paste on each thread. From the site perspective, I think it may be difficult to hold all comments in hyper space - maybe not.

Not sure the premise is correct anyway - I have seen threads where the earlier reviewers didn't like it and those that followed did and vice versa.


I do actually end up putting my reviews into a text file, but that’s an artifact of recording the subscores for each script. Since they’re there as drafts, I can pick out the half-dozen or so with the least to say and withhold those to cloak my silence on my own entry.

Silence doesn’t mean I didn’t like it, just that I had nothing insightful to say about it. One of the un-commented-upon scripts was in my top three.

I read the other reviews after posting mine, but rarely jump into the conversation because the writer isn’t there to clarify. Pretty much 100% of the time another review will point out something I missed, and I wonder how I missed that.


Feature-length scripts:
Who Wants to Be a Princess? (Family)
Glass House (Horror anthology)

TV pilots:
"Kord" (Fantasy)
"Mal Suerte" (Superhero)

Additional scripts are listed here.

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Quoted from ReneC
This is supposed to be fun. For me, part of that fun is reading the reviews, and I won't bother reading anyone else's if they're all posted at once. It's too much reading. I'll just focus on my own and move on. I also like reading other reviews before posting my own, for a variety of reasons. I think it's useful and informative to do that.


I'm convinced. This is now my official position. Don't change anything.

Seriously.


PaulKWrites.com

60 Feet Under - Low budget, contained thriller/Feature
The Hand of God - Low budget, semi-contained thriller/Feature
Wait Till Next Year - Disney-style family sports comedy/Feature

Many shorts available for production: comedy, thriller, drama, light horror
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I've submitted, but received no notification. I'm wondering now whether I messed it up....
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