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UnboundWriter
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Wow, outfreakingstanding!!!  Libby probably offered you some script analysis that you would normally have to pay top dollar for!

Just drive-by comments.  Gotta admit, after reading seven pages, I'm still not engaged yet. And I should be, given the subject matter.  But it's not gripping me.  To compound the problems, the dialogue itself, some of it... it's all very on-the-nose to me.  There's nothing under the lines.  The characters aren't lying, defending, concealing, boasting... they're just delivering speeches and asking questions.

"I want to be supreme leader not supreme sucker," "Hey don't piss here go piss at the next business!" - these feel like they are supposed to be the joke lines, but they aren't funny.

Humor could be turned up. I get that it’s subjective but nothing felt funny for me.  To each their own, I suppose.  

Libby, brought a flashlight onto a dark street and helped you to pave a smoother road.

Best of luck!-Andrea


Thanks and yes I am saddened that you didn't find it funny. I know nothing can be everyone's cup of tea. Thanks for adding thought to mine, it is all good.

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LC
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Unbound, FADE IN is not compulsory, that's just my preference.

In certain circles it's being frowned upon now?     


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UnboundWriter
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Unbound, FADE IN is not compulsory, that's just my preference.

In certain circles it's being frowned upon now?     


Idk they had the "button" but it gives you a warning that says it's a no no. It is also the "program" that is on the list of the only ones you can use for many competitions. My significant other has decades in this biz and he was surprised about that too. Maybe it's a newbie test, if you don't use it they "know" lol.
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LC
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Don't get hung up on that, Unbound. No-one is going to penalise you for that either way, and if they did I'd be wary of any other advice given.

Get your basic formatting down and then concentrate on the important stuff.


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UnboundWriter
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Don't get hung up on that, Unbound. No-one is going to penalise you for that either way, and if they did I'd be wary of any other advice given.

Get your basic formatting down and then concentrate on the important stuff.


I left the super serious life already if I ever really got there so no worries there. But you know I have to say the hits here are off the chain, and it's not just on this site. Something is going on with Supreme Leader it's blowing up everywhere it is listed.  So going to go shine it up and get that phone number off. Not today, it's Sunday it's a play day. lol Thanks again!

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DustinBowcot
Posted: August 11th, 2019, 10:32am Report to Moderator
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Many of those hits will be bots that are harvesting information from the web. Not just Google bots et al, but anyone can write a program that will search the web for relevant information, steal it and add it to their own webspace - all automated. There are probably five e-books of your script already.
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UnboundWriter
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Many of those hits will be bots that are harvesting information from the web. Not just Google bots et al, but anyone can write a program that will search the web for relevant information, steal it and add it to their own webspace - all automated. There are probably five e-books of your script already.


Bots, robots, machines, mechanisms, well if it was all that then why isn't it equating across everything everyone and everybody posts? It would if that was true.
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DustinBowcot
Posted: August 11th, 2019, 2:34pm Report to Moderator
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Bots, robots, machines, mechanisms, well if it was all that then why isn't it equating across everything everyone and everybody posts? It would if that was true.


It doesn't equate... because it isn't equal. There are many variables. There are suggestions of 50% being bot hits on average... but this is an average and there are variables that can increase or decrease that number. The better your thread is, the more keywords it contains, the more replies it gets, the more bot hits or fake traffic it will receive.
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UnboundWriter
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Nah I don't buy it, and I am a moderator on a sub on Reddit and see the figures of all of it and the equation is always the same and that is the higher the number is the higher the actual hits of real people, real users, not some figment of internet imaginations of a bot universe in control of it all.
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DustinBowcot
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Wow... you're a moderator on a sub on Reddit... well then, I take it all back. You must be correct.
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DustinBowcot
Posted: August 12th, 2019, 4:05am Report to Moderator
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Sorry for the sarcasm. But what I've said is very easy to verify. I've built websites, forums, e-commerce sites, and run my own server. A new website gets set up and people are like, hey, I've had 20 hits already! Every single one will have been a bot of some description. It happens whenever new content hits the web. They're like vampires for information.

Here's a quote, but it's a little outdated:

"In 2016, 51.8% of all internet users were robots. This was made up of 22.9% good bots and 28.9% bad bots. This study by Incapsula studied the characteristics of 16.7 billion visitors collected from August 2016 to November 2016."


Here's a website for more info: https://ppcprotect.com/how-many-of-the-internets-users-are-robots/
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UnboundWriter
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Logic defies that as said because if true all new posts would have the same result and that is not the case. But hey to each his own as is life.
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DustinBowcot
Posted: August 12th, 2019, 8:28am Report to Moderator
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Why would all new posts have the same result?

Logic doesn't defy it... your capability to understand is the aggravating factor here. There are experts on the web, that do this for a living... yet you know more than they do because you're a moderator on Reddit.

You're right, it's all good, you stick to your fantasy and I'll continue living in the real world. Let's just do that.
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Quoted from UnboundWriter
Logic defies that as said because if true all new posts would have the same result and that is not the case. But hey to each his own as is life.


No = they wouldn't.

Your title is Supreme Leader. A very common phrase for both good bots and bad bots to be interested in. Because -

It is a common phrase.

Iran's Supreme Leader is in the news on a minute by minute basis - bots are keying on that word/phrase.

There are many articles/web pages dedicated to  Supreme Leader Snokes - Star Wars.

etc.

So, many of the "hits" are in fact going to be search engine bots indexing your page.

Does the hit number mean anything anyway  - no, not really.  

Not trying to rain on your parade - it's just the way the net works. For example - I wrote a script - "In Search of Hysterical Jesus" - got 2500 hits in no time. A lot of that was because of the term Jesus (a common search term).

What I did get were about 40 comments and a dozen reads from the mates here on SS. That was extremely valuable. But...that's it. The 2500 hits does not mean 2500 people are even 500 people had an interest in my script.  Hits does not mean your script is blowing up. It only really mean something if you can monetize it and meet the standard of whatever platform (e.g., You Tube, etc.) requires in that regard. The term Supreme Leader has blown up because it is in the news and your are getting some indexing trafficking from that.





My Scripts can all be seen here:

http://dlambertson.wix.com/scripts
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Quoted from UnboundWriter
I've got the weirdest writer reality = this post has 83 hits in less than 24 hours and is banging it up but all I got is crickets other than the one comment on one typo.  


The hits on this thread are not = number of people who have read your script or even opened it for that matter. It is the number of people and bots who have checked this thread. The more people will argue, the more hits it will get because everyone wants to see what is going on.


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