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Huh? How did you get all this from a forum about swine flu? freaky.
I've read this twice and I don't believe you did this for the sake of shock value but as a metephor Pig rape represents people who are helpless against the juggernaut of the media and can't escape getting it crammed into our minds.
Sort of reminds me of that other classic "you will gain my trust if you suck my dick" metephor in Team America.
and I see you slipped the Beatles even into a story about pigs in a pig pen.
I've read this twice and I don't believe you did this for the sake of shock value but as a metephor Pig rape represents people who are helpless against the juggernaut of the media and can't escape getting it crammed into our minds.
Trelan, i'm sorry you feel that way. this is a random idea that came to me, influenced by the swine flu hysteria. I don't condone violence or assault and it seems you are drawing a long bow by linking this image with any 'meaning'. Actually i'm quite astounded you are taking this so seriously. there is no allegorical approach here- its all connected to the reference to 'Deliverance' as I stated earlier. However i understand you have your opinion and i respect that. If anyone else is offended I apologise.
I took it seriously because a) I recognize your talent and know that one day you will be putting out material that will affect public thought whether you know it or not and b) Since noone else seem to mind, I felt you should know that that's not unanimous. I took a few days after reading it to respond to the script because I wasn't sure how to state my reaction(without being hurtful or mean). I know that overtime the media has made us so callous that we react to ghastly things in a flippant way without recognizing it. (Like the guy who wrote 'Network' was afraid of)
This was just my personal reaction to your reaction after initial reviews came in...
hi Glen, thanks for the read. You're right, this wasn't meant to shosck anyone. The idea just went to that finale - that is what i saw in my head when i wrote it. but again, there wasn't any comment on society intended. Naturally, i see the media as the rubbish influence they can be on people and we all despise them for it. part of the problem is us as a whole, especially with the celebrity thing. there is thousands of so-called celebrities in our face all the time, who have little or no real talent. But the people who buy the magazines and watch the TV put them there in the first place. Am i getting off the subject here? Probably...
Trelan, again i respect your feelings on this.
Andrew, the drive from Sydney to Cairns is pretty good, except for the stretch between Rockhampton and Mackay, in Queensland. I used to live in Cairns years ago, and the drive from there up to Port douglas is one of the most scenic in the world. ps i follow the Villa in the football - we've ended a good year very diasppointingly but maybe next season...?
Ok, I’m going to chime in for (maybe) the last time here.
You say, [quote]]“there is no allegorical approach here- its all connected to the reference to 'Deliverance' as I stated earlier”. [/quote
So, no allegorical theme at all? No satire? No moral commentary? Not meant to evoke a strong moral reaction. Really??
My inference was/is that your script was littered with commentary. Of course, I can’t tell you what you were thinking when you wrote it. I can only comment on what I inferred. And as you know I got a real hoot out of the first read!
BUT, if I were you I would have gone with the allegory angle, not gone all out to dispute it, cause if not, isn’t it just a bunch of jokes strung together with a rather vicious sting in the tail (no pun intended). If it’s meant to be read with literal meaning then I can understand Trelan’s reaction ‘cause the allegorical component (which apparently doesn’t exist) was the only thing (after the shock of the rape scene) that redeemed it in my mind.
So, know what? I think I’ll just stick with what I thought; that I read way too much into it.
Hi Lib. Maybe I should've kept my mouth shut and just basked in the glory!
The only commentary I truly intended in this is the hysterical response to the swine flu. That's it. I had the idea on a Friday night at work, started writing Saturday and sunday, finished and sent it to Don Monday.
So, yes, it is basically a string of jokes connected. That's the type of comedy i'm doing at the moment. I get an idea and it takes off. I did no revision on this only fixed any grammar mistakes. Cheers
Ahhh, the Villa fell apart after Stoke got those 2 late goals - damn shame, I wanted to see Villa in the Champions League. Be interesting to see what happens with Barry.
Yeh, I've heard that it's a lovely scenic route. My Dad has insisted I take in Perth as well - I hear that it's got a really great vibe.
Btw, how did you feel about 'Wolfcreek'? That movie gave me the jitters about travelling around Oz! Haha, nah, but I love the way it depicts the landscape.
Exciting times! Unfortunately, I have to work my arse off to save my dollars!
Hey Andrew, yeah I hope Barry stays but it could be touch and go. Maybe we should bid for Tevez. never been to W.A but i hear it's good - i think it's more expensive for stuff over there. Haven't seen WC - actually it was on telly Saturday night and I watched part of it. But i chickened out half way and went to bed! I'm not into those slasher type movies.
Hey Lib. Sorry to disappoint anyone but i don't write meanings into any of my stuff. I try to concentrate on getting a good story down and turning it into a readable script. I've always been a bit of jokester and clown so the comedy is just a part of who I am.
Steve. This was some witty piggy stuff. This piggy ditty read like it was a blast to write. It certainly was fun to read. I may have thought it was a wee bit long or over the top in places, but keep writng with a strong voice like this,
Thank you for no references to the Three Little Pigs or This Little Piggy or Kevin Bacon.
Hi Gary, thanks for the kind words for this and my Ned Kelly one. Glad you enjoyed them; i enjoyed writing them. You know, I never even thought about those pig cliches you mention. Though it would've been good to 'slip' kevin in there somewhere! Cheers man.
Good little script Stevie. I wasn't offended by the sex scene, but I can see why some would be. If you give animals human charactertics people often expect them to behave with human morality. However they're pigs. They go at it like dogs and rabbits. And they have no clothes on all the time. Some fine lines in their too. I loved the absurdity of him knowing the exact distance to Mexico. I noticed you also managed to wedge a Beatles reference in there. Nice job.
Black comedy rules! I thought this one had some very funny lines in it, a good take on the whole swine-flu thing from a pig's perspective - classic. I can see you even mentioned me in it which, obviously, makes this even better
The pacing was really good but Brian singing the Beatles went on a little longer than it had too. Also, you could argue that maybe there would be a little longer from human flu to gang-rape - but what the hell. I'm glad you stuck to dialogue-humor because slapstick humor can be really difficult getting across in writing. I would have loved to have heard the one about the farmer with the three balls though...
I don't understand why anyone would be shocked or appalled by the raping scene. I mean, it's all in good fun. Please, take it for what it is instead of taking it out of context.
All in all, some good stuff here and I would like to see more of it.
Cheers Rob
Down in the hole / Jesus tries to crack a smile / Beneath another shovel load
Hey Rob, thanks for the comments - glad you liked it. Yeah, your forthcoming 'Deliverance' was a bit of an inspiration for this (well, for the last line anyway!) Can't wait to see it - is it a modern update of it, with different characters or a completely new take? The Beatle song did slow things down a bit but it suited the theme - I actually forgot the middle eight of the song; lucky, it would've been longer. The joke? You're the first one to mention it! I snuck it in but held off from telling it just to see if anyone asked. so, ok, here it is! One of my fave jokes. It's really just some guy with three balls; I put the farmer in to fit the theme again.
This guy had three balls and was sort of worried about it. He went into the city to see a doctor. 'Doc, look', he said. 'I've got three balls. Am i abnormal? The doctor examined him. 'You're perfectly healthy, no problems. Why don't you look at it this way - you're probably the only person in the world with three balls. You're unique!' The guy felt a lot better after hearing this and was very happy. He got on the train to go home, and got in a carriage. There was another guy sitting there. The happy dude sat down and said to the other guy, 'Do you know between us we've got five balls? The other guy said, 'Gee, you must have a cluster, I've only got one!