Quoted from anthony Agree, unless that makes me an idiot

You support West Ham

Good point, clearly massively intelligent then - COYI

Wow, we are getting into politics.

I might get hate mail for this, but, at this stage, I don't know how anyone can look at any of the Republican choices and like them.  Heck, the Dems are bad too.  For me, it's a choice of who's the least of the bad choices?

But, the Rep party has disintegrated into too much religion and not enough governing.  The Dems can't stop spending someone else's money, but, the Reps want to send this country back to 1775.

I have no choice but to vote Democrat b/c if the other party wins, this will happen:

1.  I'm not gay, but, believe in gay marriage and they will overturn that.  Pretty bogus.

2.  My only hope is "far out" stuff like Stem-cell research and of course, they are against that.  They are against anything that deals with "God's work."

3.  Abortion is a private matter and people should have the right to that medical procedure if they so chose.

4.  Women will have to "cover up."  It's happening in the schools now.  Girls are being sent home for wearing certain clothes and they are allowing boys to have too much latitude in dealing with women.  It is pretty awful when boys can act like idiots and not take any responsibility if an attractive woman shows some skin.  Like Pia's pic of her legs, the Rep would want her to take that down.  It's crazy.

5.  Force people to believe in Creationism instead of Evolution.  Some of the more fanatical ones actually deny the existence of dinosaurs or believe that man had them as pets (since the world is only 2000 years old).

6.  Everyone would be forced to believe in the Christian version of the supreme deity, or at the very least, the smart money would be on a heavy handed (why don't you want to be a believer, those others are bad) intolerance of others rights and religions.  

There are plenty more, but, when was the last time a Republican candidate really talked about the important issues of wages, jobs, etc.  They believe in giving rich people extra tax breaks b/c they are the ones that create jobs.  

But, the truth is that, in practice, neither side works like it should.  It's been proven that rich people will hide their extra cash in passive accounts like off-shore accounts when they have extra cash.

And Dems and poorer people will save for a rainy day in savings accounts.  Neither side fundamentally works anymore.

For me, at least, it comes down to who is the least of all the evils?  Until the Republicans get religion away from politics, I can't ever support them.  Honestly, I don't know how any woman or poor/middle class person could support them...




Onto important stuff:

Jeff, good to see you again.  Hey, when are the names coming out?  I should just out mine, it's been over a week and most know which one was mine.

Here is a promise:
The next one I enter, no one will know which is mine (hopefully)

I will shock you with a love story, that has axes in it, yeah, that's a good idea

Mine was Checkmate, the other one.  I conceived and wrote it in under 4 hrs.  I found out about it at 8pm and barely got it in at midnight.  I am shocked that some people thought it wasn't bad.  I thought it'd get slammed, but, for the most part, people thought it was okay.

Certainly not good enough to win, but, not as bad as my first attempt.

For you noobs, that's proof that reading, chatting, and being open to criticism does work.  This site will make you a better writer if you allow it.  That is up to you.  Be honest with your work.  Dive in and help others' first.  The rest will happen in time.

Like I said, there are plenty of people on this site that embraced me early on and I know they have made me a better writer and I (hope) that I was able to help them be the best they could be.  A site like this that really cares for each other is rare and I know if I sell anything, I will send Don some cash.  None of this would be possible without his efforts!

I will stop b/c I'm not writing a book here...

Really...

Dan

When do we know who won?

Quoted from CameronD When do we know who won?

From what I've read in the posts, it looks like the Democrats

Quoted from wonkavite   ) I'd consider Australia, too.  But no way am I putting my puppy through quarantine...

Don't worry about silly quarantine laws, just do what Johnny Depp's girfriend (Amber Heard) did, just put your puppies in your handbag, and come on down.  

P.S. Anyone... (almost) but Trump! That'd be scary as hell.

Lib -

Yep!  I agree... Trump's pretty bad.  But trust me... start digging into the religious beliefs of the other GOP candidates, and you'll really find yourself truly afraid.  Seriously.  Especially Huckabee, Rubio, Cruz, and Jeb Bush, too.  (Ever hear the name Terri Schiavo?)  Jeb thinks he was the hero in that scenario...

Dan - here here on what you posted!  Plus, Checkmate (the other one) *was* a good, fun script, IMHO.  Wild and fantastical, but it worked.  Honestly, probably my favorite of yours thus far.

And Lib - that quarantine.  Sadly, my puppy weighs 115 pounds.  His German Shepherd butt wouldn't fit into a suitcase.  Let alone a purse...  ))

And - I'm half convinced Trump's actually running as a joke.  That at some point he'll walk up to the mike and comment: By the way, the joke's on you.  Then again, the rest of his career shows that probably can't be.  He's been pretty evil all his life...(Just look at what he did to the folks who enrolled in "Trump University.")

Okay. Rant over.  

It's okay if Trump wins and then becomes president, because Christopher Walken will try and assassinate him, Trump will shield himself with a baby and that'll be the end of that...

Oh, wait a minute, that's King's Dead Zone!

Quoted from wonkavite Okay. Rant over.

So does this mean we're not gonna be members of the Janet-arian party by 2020?  

Quoted from wonkavite And Lib - that quarantine.  Sadly, my puppy weighs 115 pounds.  His German Shepherd butt wouldn't fit into a suitcase.  Let alone a purse...  ))

Yep, I guessed as much, somehow I couldn't picture you with a fluffy puppy.  

Quoted from wonka And - I'm half convinced Trump's actually running as a joke...

That'd be nice wouldn't it? All I know is you need your Democrats, if only to balance out those right wing gun-toting zealots, Bernie, or at the very least Hilary. Obama wasn't as impressive as I thought he might be, but he has to be commended for your healthcare reforms, right?

Oh, and onto another topic: Dan C., naughty you for outing yourself before time!

Quoted from oJOHNNYoNUTSo So does this mean we're not gonna be members of the Janet-arian party by 2020?

Vote Janet-arian!  Twinkies for everyone!  Even during the Zombie Apocalypse!   Woody Harrelson must be appeased!

PS: Lib: as usual - you're correct.  Obama's done a lot that's changed the US for the better.  For instance: championing basic gay civil rights, and cleaning up our Health Care mess a bit (though Bernie could probably do him one better... *if* he can get the rest of the government to play nice.)

Oh god, I have started a political discussion here. I am too political, I need help. Maybe get Bernie elected and I'll shut up

Quoted from wonkavite Hunter, yours definitely is NOT crap.  I say that because (while I have not had it confirmed, I'm SURE I know which is yours.  Sometimes, you know a person's writing style.)

You think you know which ones is mine? Let me know which one! I think that my comment here gave a couple of clues, haha.

okay first things first.
When next November rolls around, then I'll care. Then I'll vote.
A Republican's religious beliefs are generally irrelevant to me at this time.It neither qualifies nor disqualifies them for the possible job they seek. Democrats go to church too.

I believe in the same God,son and holy spirit that some of the GOP frontrunners do (and hopefully some Dems). Granted, I will NOT vote for Trump under any circumstances what-so-ever, and I'm a bit of a center-ist, but still I do take some issue with this, as you could understand.  But, that said...I am a little disappointed in my peers here.

Ask me someday why I gave up on Zoetrope's SP wing. Long story short, folks stopped talking about films, writing and related issues and chose to get into flame wars on the main boards regarding politics and religion (even though the site requested that the users not do so). It's one thing to be passionate about such topics. It's totally another when that sort of thing carries over into the reading and reviewing of scripts. And that's one of the biggest reasons why Zoetrope SP wing is practically a ghost town.

The thread has been hijacked.
I hope this is an exception and not the rule.

-DjS

Quoted from LC Yep, I guessed as much, somehow I couldn't picture you with a fluffy puppy.   That'd be nice wouldn't it? All I know is you need your Democrats, if only to balance out those right wing gun-toting zealots, Bernie, or at the very least Hilary. Obama wasn't as impressive as I thought he might be, but he has to be commended for your healthcare reforms, right? Oh, and onto another topic: Dan C., naughty you for outing yourself before time!

I'm naughty.  But, in my defense, everyone knew it was mine.  Somehow.  I was going to places I shouldn't with the I'm naughty, but, you can figure it out

Spankings anyone??

I'll stop now and see myself out...

As for the politics, this is the first board that I have ever seen that happen to.  I've only been here a half-year, but, I don't expect politics to be much of a topic b/c people from other countries aren't as directly affected by whom we choose.  They are the lucky ones.

And honestly, it seems like most of the people on here are democrats, so, that means we should get along.  I also don't think any of us are dumb enough to believe that either party is good.  Like I said, it's the least of all the evils.

Janet, you are right about the religious right's scary opinions.  I'm happy gay rights have come so far, but, people like Kim Davis still show how far we have to go.  By the way, this is the same Kim Davis who can't find it in her heart to marry gays b/c it is wrong in the Bible, but, she's on her 4th husband, yes, you read that right, HER FOURTH HUSBAND...

You know Pia's pic of her on a beach, you know they'd want her to cover up.  Look at what they are doing in schools.  I'm proud of some of the young people taking up the cause.  I saw that in one school with an unfair dress code, several boys and girls switched dressing roles meaning that guys wore dresses and girls wore pants and a shirt.  Good for them.  I find it crazy when a guy can wear a tank top (and he works out) but, a girl can't b/c her skin is simply too enchanting for the boys to concentrate...

I, for one, don't want to return to 1776 to live...

And Darren, I suspect this post delved into politics b/c there was no where else for this to go.  We still don't know who submitted anything, nor who wrote what...  Boredom is the devils plaything...

Dan

Quoted from wonkavite Vote Janet-arian!  Twinkies for everyone!  Even during the Zombie Apocalypse!   Woody Harrelson must be appeased! PS: Lib: as usual - you're correct.  Obama's done a lot that's changed the US for the better.  For instance: championing basic gay civil rights, and cleaning up our Health Care mess a bit (though Bernie could probably do him one better... *if* he can get the rest of the government to play nice.)

Oh Janet, I will proudly support your party.  Don't care what you stand for, it's gotta be better then what we have.

Janet for president in 2020!!  Start it now.
Dan