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Goonies Never Say Die by Andy Petrou - Adventure - The Goonies versus the Fratelli's. 20 years later, a kidnapping, a wedding and one final showdown. Who wins? There are no winners in this game. Goonies never say die...'til death do us part. - htm, format
I just read the 1st 30 pages and wow! What a way to bring these guys back into action.
I don't know how you'd pull of the cast, you couldn't simply have the same ones... they are all much to old now. I like the flow of the characters, you really know them it seems. Must've watched it countless times to get it down the way you have.
I'll read the rest when I get some more time tonight or tomorrow and then rate it for ya.
So far I'd go see this movie just for the 1st 30 minutes alone.
Very well written... I'm very envious actually, I'd like my skills to one day be up to this bar. He has a great attention for detail, but in as few words as possible. It takes this guy a sentence to tell what it takes most to tell in 3.
I'm a decent writter and have completed several screenplays, this guy makes me wanna go back and re-write them all.
I'm gonna post my long overdue review in a day or so.
Actor trying to write...
"A good script is never rejected because of layout or lack of technical jargon. If people like it, then any experienced film or TV PA or secretary can lay it out in professional manner and add all the technical terms necessary"
-- Ronald Wolfe "Writing Comedy"
"We don't make movies for critics, since they don't pay to see them anyhow."
I read it. I had to watch the original before I read it, and hmm, and this is good. I loved the characterizations, thought it was an incredible way to show how where they all kinda ended up and then to bring them back into action, i was like, "there goes the coolness of the script, it's falling, it's falling, ahhhh...." but then about 30 pages into it, it got really good. Loved the last scene, you can see it in your head. Incredibly well written indeed. Only thing i didn't really like about it is you seemed to use montages a little toooo much. A quick skimming through i saw about three or four, which is a little unusual and i couldn't get used to it, it was like suddenly there was a break in the script or something. Hope to see more from you, good luck.
Thank you sheepdogg plankton so much for your feedback. Wow, I even got you to watch the original first, and you STILL liked it - even more flattering!!!
Wasn't too clear about whether you said you liked it only after the first 30 pages? If so, I understand. A few people told me it dragged and even tho they were kind of enjoying it, they were like, 'where is this going?'. I found it a little difficult to avoid the reunion catch up chit chat that I think fans would want to see, and trying to treat it as a complete movie on its own separate from the first. So yeah, I see how page 30 onwards picked up!!
I agree that I think my characterisations are the strongest aspect of the script. In fact, 99% of people who read it said the same thing. I guess I saw the first one soooo many times since I was a kid, that I always seemed to feel connected to the personalities, so didn't find it too much of a challenge to age them, so to speak. If I could only write dialogue I would!!
As for the montages, that is a very interesting point. Just to clarify, do you mean the paragaphs where I did bullet point type of lines, rather than whole sentences? If so, I know which ones you mean. I can see how they could break the flow of the script. I guess cos I havent' written anything b4 I thought rather than writing a lot of narrative, best to leave some white space on the page!! Plus I tried really hard to NOT direct the script either- big effort indeed and very tempting.
You liked the last scene eh? Thanks, that's extra special because when I wrote the original version, it ooozed of Mature Cheddar and my boyf was like, lose some of the cheese!!! So I hacked at it many many times, to try to get the balance right. But I'm, glad you enjoyed it still.
Thanks again to all of you for reading it because this thread has been so rewarding and full of interesting comments and observations.
Baltis is determined to get me to write something else, but I don't know if another year + of re-drafting is in me after this one alone! How the hell do the rest of you write so much is what I want to know!!...
Just wanted to bump this up because of my Goonies 2005 event news tht I have!!
I wanted to let you know that I have been busy this past year organising the Goonies 20th Anniversary event which will take place in June 2005 - If Don doesn't mind me adding this addtion to my old email, I would like to show people exactly what will take place. ?
Here is information taken from the chamber of commerce and their december newsletter, on page 2.
The new event site is in development and when it is completed all future updates and information about the event will be posted there, to keep all event information complete and up to date. I will give details of it in due course.
Long over due for a full on review but I think it's better late than never, rather than to never show up at all.
You know my voice rather well, K.K. ~ So this isn't so much an ego booster for you. Rather it is a call for everyone who hasn't read this screenplay, this amazing screenplay, or passed it up for someone else's "clearly inferior" screenplay "cough" all of my screenplays "cough" to give it a look.
I'm not around as much no more, but that is a lot to do with all the screenplays I see here that are good and not getting any attention... This site has become a fodder ground for people to post their work and run for the hills... That's fine, but it's also burying a good number of the great screenplays there are here... This one for instance.
So with out the further nagging of on with the on... On with the on is what I say.
Ok, 1st thing 1st... I'm not here to lambaste anyone else's work or screenplays, I've read a lot of them here and I know that a good number of them eclipse mine in every way... This screenplay here for example is powerful stuff.
I've read it 3 times now and use it often to check my own work for errors and direction...
1- It's written with such attention to detail. Anyone who knows the movie, will know this screenplay is of the exact same quality as the movie. It is. Andy has really made these characters her own, and it shows within' every 149 to 150 pages of the screenplay or so sophocles clocks it in at.
2- It's written like a pro. The funny thing is... this is her 1st screenplay. Now, I've seen folks write screenplays for 2 and 3 years and still not know what is what and what is up... That is another reason this screenplay is such a relief to read, cause it's so well laid out.
The story is exactly how I'd want it to be, had there been a follow up. She has taken the characters and made them all grown up and more importantly, made them stick to their roots and backings.
I love the opening of the movie... Reading it reminds me so so much of how the 1st one started, only with the reintroducing of the characters this time out. Great stuff!
I do feel that you took an extra amount of care into making Francis and Jake read so so well... I mean just wow! You can't get dialogue that flows any better than this.
I like the fact that you took the focus of of Mikey, it was a very key element in why this screenplay turned out so well in the end I think, cause it gave everyone else a chance to shine and really pull thru.
The characters work well in one's and two's and even better in the group... this is hard to do, cause I wrote Coffin Canyon "which had a huge posse" and it's very hard to keep things all together and fleshed out. You made each character work, be they alone, be they with someone else and more importantly in the Gang.
Your action scenes and descriptions are blistering and ferverishly pitched at a face pace. The movie is more of a Character Drama than an all our action flick and it's not a full on adventure flick either... It's a homage to the film in everyway... It is all about the characters and the story of just what happened after that deed was signed at the end of Goonies.
When you factor in the content of fan fiction... It's always a tough sell and call. It is, cause you're gonna have your 150th batman story to go up against. You're gonna have a million spiderman screenplays to fight off. You're gonna even have some damn Star wars in there too.
But you know what guys... all that's played out. It's old hat. It is... This is something new, something good and something worth the read. It's an eye opener for a lot of new writers and even seasoned writers like R.E. and Wes and um... help me out here... I know I got more respect for Wes and R.E. than most any writers on here, but... you get my point.
I wrote this review... I'm sick... I'm coughing... I'm dizzy... and I'm not working today and you know what... that is even more testment to how good this is, cause dammit! I don't stand behind something I don't believe in, ever. Well, except for sex, booze and pills! << I kidd... I do... I kidd...
Anyway, to be serious here... "oh no, that's a 1st from my mouth" This screenplay is a class act and she's a class act and you'd be doin' yourself a favor to check it out guys. I know you can read Scream 10 today, or you can read Jason kills his mothers second brother on elm street too... But really, don't you know why you're reading it? To make fun of it and tell the writer how bad he/she is and how you could have done it better or something... You won't have to do that with this one, cause she nailed it with this one.
With that I will no carry my butterflies to bed.
Hope this bumps it to the top and makes everyone forget the lacking horror section for awhile... and that's another thing I'd like to add... I write horror. I write mundane, stoopid stories about the same thing everyone else does with new ideas... It's not pretty, it's not brilliant and it's not gonna win awards. It might make you laugh... make you hate me and even make you wanna rip the horror book up all together, but in all of that... I'm here to say this screenplay is the hands down best screenplay I've read ... not only here, but on DD and HWS too.
Good work and good thoughts, K.K. Now what's this about a girl in a car who follows an american around and um... shouldn't you be writing again?
CK, WOW!!! Thanks so much for your review/feedback - really thank you very much!! You didnt have to, but you did.
I've read it 3 times now and use it often to check my own work for errors and direction...
Not sure if mine is actually formatted correctly, but if it helps then that's great!!....('cough',she hopes its right!)
Yeah, the characters are my strength, as opposed to the actual adventure storyline aspect of the script - I genuinly believe, that a Goonies sequel should have more tunnels and even a hint of a pirate ship...... but, I struggled to make it real or real enough for a follow up.
But, yes, the characters are very important to me, kind of like friends I grew up with, and how I imagined them turning out. If I could do characters only, I'd probably write more!! But, as it stands, this movie is my passion, so I doubt I'll write another one, unless its a short - then maybe you'd see another from me on this board!!
Your action scenes and descriptions are blistering and ferverishly pitched at a face pace. The movie is more of a Character Drama than an all our action flick and it's not a full on adventure flick either...
You are absolutely right about the character drama!! I didnt know where to put it in this site! Action....not quite, adventure..., um, sort of!!! Its a mixed bag of things really - but no one thing defines it thats for sure!!
Thanks for the comments about the action scenes, it's hard to know the right fighting terminologies, as I think guys pick up on these things better when watching films like 'Fight Club','Crouching Tigger, Hidden Lizard' 'Leon' etc... So, I kind of tried to keep those movies in mind for reference in any fighting sequences in my script --> But I am a typical girl sometimes, like, drop kick this...jab, jibe, left hook what?!!What are you talking about?!!
I'm a fan of fanfiction, and I always thought if ever I made a movie, that the pay off would be that I inspired so many people with my work, that they had to see more of it and therefore entered my world of imagination by writing their own.
......Kind of like teachers and pupils. Years later, students coming back to see their teachers, and the pay off for the teacher, who did care, seeing where their work may have helped their former pupils turn out in the world today - yeah, I'm sentimental like that...
Thanks, I really appreciate your support with my script...
No, I kidd... I kidd... I do... I kidd "with 2 d's mind you" kinda makes me fooolish "with 3 o's" though sometimes, huh?
With everything in me as to write or whatever... I believe your screenplay touched me like no other screenplay has. I think it was something to do with gowing up in the 80's and watching GOONIES countless times and kinda sharing in the same "not as extreme" love for them as you. I really adore this screenplay, cause it's not fan fiction to me... it's not. It's like exactly what I would want to see, if the follow up got made, it is.
I cannot say that about any other fan fiction script out there... They always get it wrong, no matter what it is, what genre, whatever... This is a perfect example of somone who loves the movie, loves the concept and did something for themselves and other fans of the same interest.
You did this, Andy and you should be proud of yourself, cause you know after all I've said to you be it whenever and whatever... I'm very proud of you.
P.S. Haven't even finished Coffin Canyon and already want 2... TSK TSK -- I'd be glad to send you RTCC actually, if you'd like it. It's good stuff, better than the 1st one dare I say...?????? I guess you'll find out. I also want to make it known, only the most special of people have laid eyes on the 2 other installments of Coffin Canyon... yes it's like area 51 on a smaller scale. So, just know... you mean special things when you get them XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX