Quoted from Max Final Draft looks horrible on the script I just uploaded, it's smudgy black writing. Whereas your scripts look all light and fluffy, not that it matters but I would like that for aesthetics. You got the free version yeah?

Celtx is free.  I use it.  The only difference now is that there is no more computer only mod.  It's all on their site now, but, for the most part, their site is usually up.  The mods are pretty friendly.  They answer questions quickly.  Don't expect anything to get read tho, no one reads jack.  Or if they do, they give you bad ratings so their stories jump above yours.  

They are supposed to have some now stuff coming in the future...

Like  i said, I use celtx and it's free and I like it.

Dan

Just search for 'desktop celtx' and you'll get a downloadable version. Here's one for Windows:

http://celtx.en.softonic.com/download

Wow. That was intense, Dustin. Everybody pretty much covered it all. Was this a burst of inspiration, gotta sit down and bang it out, here you go kind of script? It ssemed almost like a stream of consciousness that just flowed and you scrambled to capture it. If so, amazing work in such a limited time. Either way, it should be fairly easy/inexpensive to shoot.

BTW, those of us yanks that worked with your fellow countrymen or even watched BBC productions on a regular basis growing up know what quid means. Besides, write it how you feel it. So, keep 'em coming.

Ian

Quoted from Iancou Wow. That was intense, Dustin. Everybody pretty much covered it all. Was this a burst of inspiration, gotta sit down and bang it out, here you go kind of script? It ssemed almost like a stream of consciousness that just flowed and you scrambled to capture it. If so, amazing work in such a limited time. Either way, it should be fairly easy/inexpensive to shoot. BTW, those of us yanks that worked with your fellow countrymen or even watched BBC productions on a regular basis growing up know what quid means. Besides, write it how you feel it. So, keep 'em coming. Ian

I wasn't going to submit this at one point because it felt exactly that, more a stream of consciousness than an actual story. I was ready to take a bashing for it. So, surprised to see it go down fairly well.

It's an idea that's been pinned to my ideas board for quite some time now under the working title Jail Date. I chose On the Out, because it is British prison slang for having one's freedom.

Thanks for the read mate.

Quoted from DustinBowcot ... It's an idea that's been pinned to my ideas board for quite some time now under the working title Jail Date. I chose On the Out, because it is British prison slang for having one's freedom.  ...

Just curious, Dustin, from one pedant to another - is 'gaol' (spelling) now obsolete, as in, are Her Majesty's now referred to as 'jails'? Perhaps only some Aussie and Irish lock-ups remain as that...

Quoted from LC Just curious, Dustin, from one pedant to another - is 'gaol' (spelling) now obsolete, as in, are Her Majesty's now referred to as 'jails'? Perhaps only some Aussie and Irish lock-ups remain as that...

Dustin's been Americanized  

Although you'll get gangs in and around London/Birmingham that refer to it as "pen" or "bin", those terms are frequent in Grime music as well.

For example:

"I ain't tryna' to catch life in the bin, cause some hench guy was on a hype tryna' swing"

Yeah, Prison works just as well, lol.

Quoted from Max Dustin's been Americanized   Although you'll get gangs in and around London/Birmingham that refer to it as "pen" or "bin", those terms are frequent in Grime music as well. For example: "I ain't tryna' to catch life in the bin, cause some hench guy was on a hype tryna' swing" Yeah, Prison works just as well, lol.

I can't see it somehow, unless it's a deliberate choice.

And Fen, what you're talking about in those last couple of lines is slang - I'm just talking about the Queen's English - i.e., Jail and Gaol. Not making a big deal out of it, just curious.

Quoted from LC I can't see it somehow, unless it's a deliberate choice. And Fen, what you're talking about in those last couple of lines is slang - I'm just talking about the Queen's English - i.e., Jail and Gaol. Not making a big deal out of it, just curious.

Oh right.

Would just be "prison" then I guess, never gets called jail over here.

Quoted from LC Just curious, Dustin, from one pedant to another - is 'gaol' (spelling) now obsolete, as in, are Her Majesty's now referred to as 'jails'? Perhaps only some Aussie and Irish lock-ups remain as that...

Yeah jails. Nobody really remembers the gaol spelling any more.

Truesay.

Btw, you ever got any feedback from BBC Writers Room?

Yes I did. I got to the final and only received positive praise. To be honest mate, I pretty much know what I'm doing now. People either like my stories or they don't. It's not down to a case of not being able to write. Much like yourself.

If you do enter competitions mate and you get some no-mark, the guys are making around $5 an hour, try to tell you what's wrong with your script. Ignore it. The advice of anyone paid $5 isn't worth anything near the advice you can get here for free.

Well, I don't think my writing is that great, it's rather simple and lacking emotion... or any sort of oomph.

I'm not looking to get anything made, although it would be nice.  I think maybe this is more your thing than it is mine, I'm not involved with any productions, I just write and post here.

Interesting offshoot topic you got going on. Round here ‘Jail’ is usually a temporary lockdown until your court hearing, but (after sentencing) when the Sheriff transports you to a Provincial or Federal Correctional Facility; then people usually refer to it as ‘Prison’. A relative of mine, who works at a Maximum Federal lockdown facility, has only ever (affectionately) referred to it as ‘The Joint’. I think the naming convention subtly changes from region to region, and of course your position within its walls.

Anyway, this is a very compelling piece you’ve written here Dustin; an emotional gauntlet, if you will. I believe you could make it work on so many levels, and even more so because you’re bringing a level of ideology that most (people) within society will never truly understand.

I’ve worked with at risk youth for many years now, and always fall prey to their unfortunate predicament of being ‘Good Kids’ in a ‘Bad Environment’. Only now is society taking into consideration that many of these individuals suffer from mild or severe FASD, and have (all their life) inadvertently become perfect scapegoats when someone needs to point a finger. The cycle of violence you captured here is a great example to show how these individuals simply get lost in the system.

Quoted from DustinBowcot The silent thing could work as this film might only last five minutes. I also imagine it set to music.

Not sure if you’ve seen this, I think it’s brilliant. It really gives clarity on how cinema is a trick of the mind, and how a well choreographed series of events can capture our attention with minimal or no dialog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSNwudFGUOU

Perhaps it will stir something within as to how you might play this out. Cheers and good luck!

I notice you deleted (or edited) a post of yours Dustin, truesay I read it before it went and I won't repeat it.

Nothing to be ashamed of brother, do your ting and keep writing, ain't no hate or judgement from my end.

The writing speaks for itself and you'll be judged on that alone.

Shit bruh, what else can I say? Keep it moving, bang out scripts and that's it!

Quoted from Gum Interesting offshoot topic you got going on. Round here ‘Jail’ is usually a temporary lockdown until your court hearing, but (after sentencing) when the Sheriff transports you to a Provincial or Federal Correctional Facility; then people usually refer to it as ‘Prison’. A relative of mine, who works at a Maximum Federal lockdown facility, has only ever (affectionately) referred to it as ‘The Joint’. I think the naming convention subtly changes from region to region, and of course your position within its walls.

Here it's just jail, no matter where or what. We have long term jails like Long Lartin which is a cat A jail, but also houses cat B prisoners that are considered too dangerous for the standard Cat C jails. Our lowest category is D, which is where inmates may work occasionally outside the prison gates, get home leave, play sports in other prisons, even open jail, which is where there is only a little green fence that a six-year-old could scale. It's all pretty much just jail though.

Quoted Text Anyway, this is a very compelling piece you’ve written here Dustin; an emotional gauntlet, if you will. I believe you could make it work on so many levels, and even more so because you’re bringing a level of ideology that most (people) within society will never truly understand.

Thanks. I wasn't sure how it would go down. I imagine there have been readers that are less sympathetic that haven't replied and I get their side too. Which is also why I didn't want to romanticise it.

Quoted Text I’ve worked with at risk youth for many years now, and always fall prey to their unfortunate predicament of being ‘Good Kids’ in a ‘Bad Environment’. Only now is society taking into consideration that many of these individuals suffer from mild or severe FASD, and have (all their life) inadvertently become perfect scapegoats when someone needs to point a finger. The cycle of violence you captured here is a great example to show how these individuals simply get lost in the system.

Yeah, I'd say it's probably about as high as 99% that are just ordinary guys deep down. There is always the 1% that are just plain evil... probably less than that, but you get my point. I've met a few guys over the years that I know to stay away from after 5 minutes of talking to them. Some just have a death wish and are just too far gone to help.

Quoted Text Not sure if you’ve seen this, I think it’s brilliant. It really gives clarity on how cinema is a trick of the mind, and how a well choreographed series of events can capture our attention with minimal or no dialog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSNwudFGUOU Perhaps it will stir something within as to how you might play this out. Cheers and good luck!

No, I hadn't seen that, thanks. I'll bear it in mind. Thanks for the read and review.