Quoted from ReneC Okay, it's me, not you. I read that differently, but I get what you and Jeff are saying. I just don't think it's that big a deal, and I don't think the views count for as much as you think. Some writers look at their own reviews an awful lot, like multiple times a day, and that adds to the thread count. Not me, of course, but a friend of mine...okay, it's me. Some writers read a script but don't leave a review. I've done that too, for a variety of reasons. I do that a lot less now, but in the past I've bailed on reviewing because I really disliked something or felt I couldn't help the conversation or was in a mood or didn't have time or wrote a detailed review and my browser crashed and I didn't want to type it all again...or whatever. If you really think it's a big deal, ask Don how he tabulates the numbers. Then see if there's a better way to do it. Otherwise, the same argument happens every OWC but I say if it isn't broken then maybe it's fine the way it is.

Oh, you mean you were talking about how many times a thread has been opened. Not the actual reviews? I think I get what you're saying.  

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. Oh, you mean you were talking about how many times a thread has been opened. Not the actual reviews? I think I get what you're saying.

I get what you’re saying now as well, I think I confused the situation as I wrote ‘views’ in my original post, where I should have said reviews.

I don’t care about the view count at all.

And definitely not enough of an issue for me to worry about, it was more out of interest

Quoted from LC . I also don't think review count helps if it's just jumping on the bandwagon (with reader fatigue at a certain point) and agreeing with the previous reviewer  verbatim - what he/she said.

That's why I like to read something without looking at the reviews first. Then I know I'm not biased by what others have said.

Once I've already come to my own conclusions, then I'll often go back and see what others have to say and I find this is a good learning opportunity to learn.

Sandra

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. That's why I like to read something without looking at the reviews first. Then I know I'm not biased by what others have said. Once I've already come to my own conclusions, then I'll often go back and see what others have to say and I find this is a good learning opportunity to learn. Sandra

This is how I've done it for the last maybe 3 challenges. The only time I will read them before writing my review is if I feel like there is something I'm really not getting. There was one in this challenge that I did that for.

But my thoughts are my own, and not influenced by any other writers.

Quoted from Warren This is how I've done it for the last maybe 3 challenges. The only time I will read them before writing my review is if I feel like there is something I'm really not getting. There was one in this challenge that I did that for. But my thoughts are my own, and not influenced by any other writers.

How do you feel about voting regarding the genre? There's one script in the challenge, really well written, but not quite Rom Com. I'd like to vote for it, but feel I shouldn't.

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. That's why I like to read something without looking at the reviews first. Then I know I'm not biased by what others have said. Once I've already come to my own conclusions, then I'll often go back and see what others have to say and I find this is a good learning opportunity to learn. Sandra

I usually read first, then scan the reviews before writing my own, for a few reasons.

For one, I don't want to beat a dead horse, so I'll quickly agree with the others on a point that's already been made and move on.

For another, I sometimes disagree with something another reviewer said and want to give my own opinion on that point. Not putting down the other reviewer, just to comment so the writer has another perspective, where I might not have commented at all on that particular point had I not seen the earlier review.

Also, if I see that nobody is commenting on a point I think is important, I'll go further into my comments about it since I seem to be the only one saying anything about it.

Not saying everyone should do this, it's just my method. I'll go back to reading now before my kids get home.

Quoted from ReneC I'll go back to reading now before my kids get home.

My sympathies.   These days, it's a lot of work just looking after the cats.  

Kids... those were the days. It's a wonder we as parents make it through it alive!

Quoted from Sandra Elstree. How do you feel about voting regarding the genre? There's one script in the challenge, really well written, but not quite Rom Com. I'd like to vote for it, but feel I shouldn't.

There are several like this that I PERSONALLY think fit into this statement. I still don’t really know how I'm going to vote. I think I'm leaning towards being the hardest on not meeting the genre restriction. I mean that’s the actual challenge here, right? We can all hit 5 to 10 pages, we can all put chocolates, roses, and red in any script, but can we all write rom coms? Well no we can't, and this challenge has proved that. I really hope a rom com is the Writer's Choice because that was the challenge.

Like I said in a previous post, I know I can write a better drama or horror than I can a comedy, and definitely a romantic comedy. So it feels a bit weird to give high scores to a script that isn’t in the genre. Of course it can be a great script, but did it meet the requirements? I think a good script that hits all the marks is better than a great script that doesn’t in terms of the OWC.

But like most things it's subjective. Scripts that I thought didn’t have a certain element other people seemed to find, so at the end of the day the most liked script will rise to the top and that’s fair enough  

OK, I'm not going to throw quotes out here, but I actually really wanted to, but as I keep reading more posts, I realized that would be redorkulous and take up maybe 4 or 5 more posts.

But, I do want and need to comment...and yeah, I'm sure I've said this all before, so sorry in advance.

If you open up a script and then hit "reply" on the end of the thread, in theory, you haven't read the feedback before you've read the script, because, in theory, you want to comment as you read.  If this is the case, no one should be saying, yeah, "like so and so said, I agree".  You should read and comment as you feel.  If you want to go read the feedback before you post, great, you can add an, "I agree with Joe", or I really disagree with what everyone is saying here", but your comments should be yours, as you read or right after you read.

In terms of the always prevalent, "He's way too mean", "She's way too nice" comments...c'mon, peeps!  We're each our own person and we act, talk, write, etc, the way we choose to.  It's called personality and it makes the frickin' world go round.  Kid Gloves can be great...and they can also be just downright wrong.  If you really like something, awesome!  Tell the world.  If you think something sucks, let it be known.  If you "know" something's wrong, help the peeps out and say it...however you need to say it.

Peeps on SS generally choose to hate on me and I get that.  But then, those same peeps throw out a compliment, and/or downright say, "Jeff's helped me".

I want to help and I want to enlighten.  I'm me and I do things the way I choose, and this old dog ain't gonna be changing his tune anytime soon, if not ever.  Take it in stride and if it helps, then my day is made.  If it hurts, I'm sorry.

I'm ready for the reveal...my interest is subsiding...quickly.

I’m hung up on views. Sometimes, that’s all I’ve got. As in, everyone hates my script but at least I’m in the top 5 in total views. And no, I don’t open my own script a hundred times. More like 80-85 times. A day.

When I’m scoring a script, I have a spreadsheet that I keep open and then score afterwards. I score it in the following categories:  dialogue, characters, plot, tone, and challenge (I.e. did I feel like it met the parameters of the challenge) and grade each one on a scale of 1 to 5. If they only meet part of the challenge (has the flowers and chocolate but they’re just props, I’ll Lower the score). So well written scripts might have a generally high score otherwise but get dinged on the challenge part and the overall is going to reflect that.

If there are two equally well written scripts and one met all the parameters and one didn’t, we’ll, you know which way I’m leaning.

Quoted from Gary in Houston When I’m scoring a script, I have a spreadsheet that I keep open and then score afterwards. I score it in the following categories:  dialogue, characters, plot, tone, and challenge (I.e. did I feel like it met the parameters of the challenge) and grade each one on a scale of 1 to 5. If they only meet part of the challenge (has the flowers and chocolate but they’re just props, I’ll Lower the score). So well written scripts might have a generally high score otherwise but get dinged on the challenge part and the overall is going to reflect that. If there are two equally well written scripts and one met all the parameters and one didn’t, we’ll, you know which way I’m leaning.

I hear you. My problem is the fact that I think the best written script in this OWC is completely not a Rom Com, but I have to vote for what are I feel are at least close to being Rom Com.

I have a similar spreadsheet, with 4 categories - Writing, Challenge, Story, and Other.  5 points available in each category.

I have 1 to read still and my scores range from 0 to 17.5.  Most are between 4 and 7.

Quoted from Dreamscale I have a similar spreadsheet, with 4 categories - Writing, Challenge, Story, and Other.  5 points available in each category. I have 1 to read still and my scores range from 0 to 17.5.  Most are between 4 and 7.

Is that...the Dreamscale?  

Quoted from ReneC Is that...the Dreamscale?

Yeah, what the hell is a Dreamscale anyway? Fess up, Jeff.