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I'm actually really struggling to know what is the best/fairest way to score these ones is.
The challenge: rom com (must have comedic elements, must have romantic elements) then the chocolate, rose, and red, and the page count obviously.
The challenge is clear as day. So what makes a good entry, well in my eyes one that meets all those markers. And there are a fair few that do.
If your page count is not there that's a DQ straight away. If the 3 items are there all good. I think the real issue for me is the romantic/comedic aspect. I've found that some of my favourite scripts in this challenge have had outstanding stories, dialogue, and are just plain well written, but they are missing either the romance or the comedy. So how do I score them? You could argue that the ones that lack comedy or romance are then intern another genre all together. I love horror, but if the best horror ever written made its way into this OWC I couldn't give it top marks, so can I give a script that isn't a rom com top marks? Isn't that missing the entire point of the challenge, that being to meet all the parameters.
Just thinking out loud. And still not entirely sure how to mark this one. Anyone have any suggestions?
There really are some top-notch entries. Hopefully the read count somewhat reflects the script count after all is said and done.
Just for me:
On this one, I only DQ'd the page count violaters. They made it easy by going way over the limit.
There was one script that I really thought was well done - other than the fact it was not really a Rom-com. It was a Rom-drama. I had to downgrade that one. It would have been a 5 on my scale of 1 to 5. Instead it is a 4.
There were many others that bent the genre to their liking - but it really didn't matter because they were middle of the road anyway.
So, in terms of genre, it only impacted one script that would have made by top grouping.
In terms of the Roses. chocolates, and candy. That was tougher for me. Personally, I think that many scripts where they were really just props. They didn't tie into a plot point, a character reaction, etc. They were just there. One script that I otherwise especially liked suffered from this. However, there were so many like this that I did not downgrade any for this issue. If they were in the script, okay. Maybe not fair because I think it is more difficult to write a Rom-com when these elements affect the story than it is to write a Rom-Com when they are merely present in a story. Oh well.
Also, I am surprised at the amount of comments on spelling/grammar - Being a one week challenge from parameters to idea to writing, I thought people would have been more lenient on such things and focused more on the story and the decisions people make in using the chocolate/red/roses
My problems were bad page ones in this regard. If I am several pages in I generally don't give a damn about those issues in an OWC, but if my read is stumbling out of the gate because of them it creates a problem for me. Just me.
My problems were bad page ones in this regard. If I am several pages in I generally don't give a damn about those issues in an OWC, but if my read is stumbling out of the gate because of them it creates a problem for me. Just me.
My problems were bad page ones in this regard. If I am several pages in I generally don't give a damn about those issues in an OWC, but if my read is stumbling out of the gate because of them it creates a problem for me. Just me.
If it affects your read, it can be very annoying - I'm trying to be lenient with it because of the time restraint in proof reading, or am i being too soft?
Some people spot these things easier than others - I am terrible at spelling and grammar, I know that is one of my weaknesses. So I don't spot others mistakes as much as you probably do.
If it affects your read, it can be very annoying - I'm trying to be lenient with it because of the time restraint in proof reading, or am i being too soft?
Some people spot these things easier than others - I am terrible at spelling and grammar, I know that is one of my weaknesses. So I don't spot others mistakes as much as you probably do.
I can only explain it like starting a car. An error riddled first page is like turning the ignition over and over and the motor just won't engage. Makes me want to say fuck it - I'll just stay home.
Conversely, if the motor engages right away I am happily on the road and don't even notice the occasional pothole or speed bump on the way.
i.e., let me get started. Clean up that first page.
I can only explain it like starting a car. An error riddled first page is like turning the ignition over and over and the motor just won't engage. Makes me want to say fuck it - I'll just stay home.
Conversely, if the motor engages right away I am happily on the road and don't even notice the occasional pothole or speed bump on the way.
i.e., let me get started. Clean up that first page.
Good analogy - Totally understand.
It's similar to how I feel with overwriting - when I open up the script and the first action block is a big 7 line mess, I'm out - but if it appears later on I'll be a bit more forgiving.
It's similar to how I feel with overwriting - when I open up the script and the first action block is a big 7 block mess, I'm out - but if it appears later on I'll be a bit more forgiving.
I used to be terrible at reviews because I never wanted to tell people my opinion about their scripts because I didn't want to sway them away from their visions. So, what I would do is individually list every grammatical, spelling or punctuation error I found, in order, so that no one would be able to get hung up on mistakes when they went for their rewrite. As a result, I'd have those bases covered while I let everyone else help them out with story and things like that. The only real problem was that it took so long to get through that I usually wouldn't be able to get through all the scripts before the time voting started.
I used to be terrible at reviews because I never wanted to tell people my opinion about their scripts because I didn't want to sway them away from their visions. So, what I would do is individually list every grammatical, spelling or punctuation error I found, in order, so that no one would be able to get hung up on mistakes when they went for their rewrite. As a result, I'd have those bases covered while I let everyone else help them out with story and things like that. The only real problem was that it took so long to get through that I usually wouldn't be able to get through all the scripts before the time voting started.
For sure - once you get to two or three you just have to let a writer know that there may be issues throughout and move on
For sure - once you get to two or three you just have to let a writer know that there may be issues throughout and move on
I can't do that. I always get hung up on errors and I'm actually disappointed nobody pointed out the four errors I've found in mine thus far. Lol. But, believe me, if I had the time (and if we didn't have 43 entries), I'd have reverted to my old style for this challenge. I liked doing it that way because I felt like it could be legitimately helpful.
I can't do that. I always get hung up on errors and I'm actually disappointed nobody pointed out the four errors I've found in mine thus far. Lol. But, believe me, if I had the time (and if we didn't have 43 entries), I'd have reverted to my old style for this challenge. I liked doing it that way because I felt like it could be legitimately helpful.
One would think, but for some reason, peeps don't want to know about the mistakes they're making. It truly baffles me, as like you, if I made a mistake and didn't catch it on the 10+ reads I did of it, I want to know!
I think the bigger problem is that most peeps don't even understand they're making mistakes over and over...they don't see "the mistake" as being a mistake.
On the subject of romcom. People may think of those traditional romcoms like Sleepless In Seattle. One of the few romcoms I�ve seen. I�m not one into this traditional storytelling and prefer something less traditional.
So if you�ve got romance and a shooting, I don�t mind. People find love in the oddest of scenarios. If people can marry inanimate objects, we can like the stories that bend the rules.
Sean, it's a wonderful thing you did. I like it when people do that. It's helpful.
Quoted from Dreamscale
I think the bigger problem is that most peeps don't even understand they're making mistakes over and over...they don't see "the mistake" as being a mistake.
Yeah, I don't. I'm with Xavier - I may see many in time, not all probably. But I'm thankful when someone lists my mistakes. That way I know for sure.
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