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ArtyDoubleYou
Posted: July 17th, 2014, 6:57pm Report to Moderator
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Was wondering if any of you folks could help me out with something that should probably be obvious. It relates to the 'sits, sat, sitting' debate on my thread.

Basically, I want to know which would be the correct sentence to use out of the following...

She lies still.

She lays still.

They both make sense to me, but I want it to be right for the American style I'm going for, like 'sat' wasn't the correct term in that respect.

I know it probably seems quite trivial, but I want to try and make sure I get it right. Plus the fact it hasn't stopped niggling at me since I wrote it a few hours back. I like the idea of perfection, and that comes in the smaller details as well as with the bigger picture.

It may not even matter, but you know, I hear self doubt can be a major trait in us writer types. Hope you understand where I'm coming from.



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Mine is a revenge story. I worry however that the revenge is not the protag out for revenge, but rather someone wanting revenge on him.  


Sort of like Oldboy?
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Sort of like Oldboy?

No. Nothing like Old Boy!  

As far as your question goes, you'd have to ask someone better at English than me. Seems like someone complained once when I used lay instead of lie though...

How's everyone doing, btw? I'm on page 45. I do have a partner now though.  It seems to be working which is a first for me.


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Arty, this one has nothing to do with U.S., U.K Aussie etc. It's all the same.

'She lies still' - there's no object involved.

Here's a link for you. Remember 'Lay Down Sally' was a song and it wouldn't have had quite the same ring of 'Lie Down Sally' even though the latter is correct.  

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/lay-versus-lie

And, Arty, perfection - good luck with that. First draft remember. Don't be so hard on yourself.

If your story is terrific no producer is going to pull you up cause your wrote 'lay' instead of 'lie'.


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ArtyDoubleYou
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Thanks ladies. I had 'lies' all along.

As for perfection, I know I won't achieve it first go around. But I feel that's part of the reason my writing speed suffers. I try so hard to get my sentences perfect on the first attempt, I can often spend hours stuck on the same line. It's a habit I don't seem to be able to break. Too much thinking, not enough doing. Like a bad protagonist I guess.

I'm currently on page 36, aiming for 45 by Sunday. Just wrote my first ever gun fight and about to break into my second fist fight that may or may not include a dash of martial arts. Exciting stuff if you ask me.
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Quoted from ArtyDoubleYou
It's a habit I don't seem to be able to break. Too much thinking, not enough doing. Like a bad protagonist I guess.


Or Hamlet

It's a habit you'll break by writing more features. And as annoying as it is until you break it, it also shows that you probably have the obsessive kind of brain that a writer tends to need!
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Quoted from Heretic


Or Hamlet

It's a habit you'll break by writing more features. And as annoying as it is until you break it, it also shows that you probably have the obsessive kind of brain that a writer tends to need!


The only thing I know about Hamlet is the line 'Alas poor Yorick, I knew him Haratio, a fellow of infinite jest'. That and I'm almost a hundred percent sure it's by ye olde Bill Shakespeare.

I do however appreciate your positive spin on my negative thoughts. You should work in PR or as a government spin doctor or something. Or be a clown using your gift to turn frowns upside down. Some people are scared of clowns. I'm not.
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I'm on page 45. I do have a partner now though.  It seems to be working which is a first for me.


Funny, you mention that. I enlisted Libby for a co-write as well, but not on this project.

I hope it don't interfere with her writing the OWC, but it's a great opportunity for both of us.  

Shawn.....><
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Funny, you mention that. I enlisted Libby for a co-write as well, but not on this project.

I hope it don't interfere with her writing the OWC, but it's a great opportunity for both of us.  

Shawn.....><


Very cool to see, Shawn and Libby! Co-writing is very hard, IMO. It's good to have someone to discuss the story with, but it can easier sometimes to do things your own way too. We'll see how it turns out.

Good luck to you two!

PS. I should have your notes this weekend.  

I've hit page 51 today, btw, in case anyone wants to discuss their story or just needs a push or kick in the ass.  



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Heh all, just chiming in.

This is a great challenge. There's a lot of good feedback. The entries have been pretty exciting and varied.

I can't wait until the longer versions hit. Are you guys going to post your pages in progress or wait until the deadline?

I'm sitting at 58 pages right now. I feel like I have all the beats mapped out too. I'm already itching to see what you guys think.

Good luck everyone.  Keep at it.


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Quoted from Last Fountain

This is a great challenge. There's a lot of good feedback. The entries have been pretty exciting and varied.

I read all the 1 week entries. I feel like maybe I didn't give the best comments, but...


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I can't wait until the longer versions hit. Are you guys going to post your pages in progress or wait until the deadline?
I'll most likely try to read all the entries if time allows and hopefully some of the writers will return the read. I will probably have mine up at Dropbox, but not necesarily posted at SS. I have to think about it.


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I'm sitting at 58 pages right now. I feel like I have all the beats mapped out too. I'm already itching to see what you guys think.

Excellent! Good for you!  


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Very cool to see, Shawn and Libby! Co-writing is very hard.

Good luck to you two!

PS. I should have your notes this weekend.  


Libby is so totally cool to work with. She completely gets my style.

To be honest, it surprises me how easy it is to work with her.

Libby's ideas are right on and instead of being taken back by some of my terrible writing, she complements it with excellent observations and input.

The project we're working on can pay off in spades for both of us.

And I couldn't be happier working on it with her.

Btw...I can't wait to read your notes, Pia. You're such a great friend. I know you're busy, so thank you for working on Dirty. I owe you, my friend.  

Shawn.....><


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I wrote 20 pages yesterday to reach page 67. Hoping to have finished by Monday. Only a vomit draft though... can't call it a first draft yet. There is some stuff I need to change and manoeuvre, but I reckon that I should have a fairly decent first draft before next weekend.
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Quoted from Last Fountain


I can't wait until the longer versions hit. Are you guys going to post your pages in progress or wait until the deadline?


After reading a few, I made a decision to hold off on comments due to the knowledge that every entry is a rough ten pager that may not reflect on a lot of the story, logline or might not even have a main character. When I noticed my peers -especially the usual suspects-even having a bicker war on one script that wasn't even my own, ...this actually enforced my decision.

Even my outline didn't cover 90% of my entry/story and characters because at the time I still had 80 pages at least to go. I'm debating whether or not to repost the new pages or wait until the draft is done and drop it in August. It will most likely be the latter.


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Wow. I was able to crank out 20 pages earlier today. I'm sitting at 78 now.

Does anyone else hit strides like that? I find once my script is mapped and I hit that middle chunk pages usually flow. Sometimes it's a steady flow of 5 pages here and there. Maybe I take too much time developing the start and end. I wonder how others progress.

It feels good when you vomit up that much at once during the 1st draft though. Rewriting is always the larger pain in my ass.

good luck all


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AWESOME! Good for you!  

I'm on page 57. Slow going in the middle and I'm meandering. I had this thing plotted out, but I can't say I followed it exactly. I'm still semi sure where I'm going though, so I'm hoping to continue to do 5 ppd. I'm shooting for the end by Sunday a week from now, then tweak it the rest of the time.  


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