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Just hit page 19 on the first draft (vomit's already finished, as stated). I'm going at a freaking snail's pace right now, lol. Still got 5 weeks to finish it, give or take a day. Just smoothing out the rough edges of the vomit.
Changed quite a bit of the story, reworked all of the dialogue. First words are still "1995" but there is a page and a half before that call chimes.
First 10 pages of the vomit, as seen on the boards, have been beefed up by an intro sequence, yet contained within 8 pages.
Taking my time with this is helping the narrative flow more naturally.
I wrote 12 yesterday to take me to 79. Only the very end sequence to write now. Should see me finish the vomit today.
I never bother with treatments before I write a story. I never map beats or anything like that. When a youth, my teachers would try to get me to write story plans.... but I never could get along doing it like that. Whenever I try, I never, ever stick to it... so the day or two it takes to write a treatment is wasted.
I do like to write treatments after the vomit draft though, as this enables me to see far more clearly what is and what isn't working.
Still got 5 weeks to finish it, give or take a day.
Four weeks, isn't it? I'd prefer five with the way my second act is coming along, as in, it's not moving very well so far. I'm on page 40, but should be able to make the 45 I hoped for today, and maybe even hit 50 at a push.
Now my problem is having enough scenes to take me up to at least 90 pages altogether. Yesterday I made notes of all the scenes I know are to come, and at a conservative estimate I'm not even sure I'll hit 80 by the end.
It's certainly a bit of a worry at the moment. I could go for a few dialogue heavy scenes, as they eat up pages, but I'd rather fill it with some form of action. Having done a statistics report on final draft, I have 69% action and 25% dialogue, and I like those percentages.
But then, I guess this is part of the fun. Working stuff out and being able to push through in order to make a deadline. It's both exciting and frustrating at the same time. Maybe I'll just throw in a ten page car chase and fill it with random explosions and fruit carts being knocked over and conveniently placed ramps allowing for huge jumps. You know, just cos.
Four weeks, isn't it? I'd prefer five with the way my second act is coming along, as in, it's not moving very well so far. I'm on page 40, but should be able to make the 45 I hoped for today, and maybe even hit 50 at a push.
Now my problem is having enough scenes to take me up to at least 90 pages altogether. Yesterday I made notes of all the scenes I know are to come, and at a conservative estimate I'm not even sure I'll hit 80 by the end.
It's certainly a bit of a worry at the moment. I could go for a few dialogue heavy scenes, as they eat up pages, but I'd rather fill it with some form of action. Having done a statistics report on final draft, I have 69% action and 25% dialogue, and I like those percentages.
But then, I guess this is part of the fun. Working stuff out and being able to push through in order to make a deadline. It's both exciting and frustrating at the same time. Maybe I'll just throw in a ten page car chase and fill it with random explosions and fruit carts being knocked over and conveniently placed ramps allowing for huge jumps. You know, just cos.
80 pages is fine... I wouldn't worry about it. An 80 page script could film at 100 minutes. I've finished vomit drafts at 67 pages before, particularly thrillers and horrors as they tend to run to shorter page lengths anyway.
But... 80 could also be an indicator that you don't have enough story. Just write through till the end, don't think about it. Then figure out what to do afterwards. The more worrying you do, the less writing you do. There will always be ways you can beef up the story later.
80 pages is fine... I wouldn't worry about it. An 80 page script could film at 100 minutes. I've finished vomit drafts at 67 pages before, particularly thrillers and horrors as they tend to run to shorter page lengths anyway.
But... 80 could also be an indicator that you don't have enough story. Just write through till the end, don't think about it. Then figure out what to do afterwards. The more worrying you do, the less writing you do. There will always be ways you can beef up the story later.
I think I've figured out a way to beef it up a bit. I'm going to add more for the antagonist, making him more active and giving him his own set of problems. Originally I planned to have him mainly be a voice on the phone, but characters are supposedly 'actor bait' and who wants to play a voice on the phone when you can go around shooting stuff and killing people with your bare hands? It also adds a little backstory for him, including his motivation/s. Plus we get to see how badass he can really be and therefore what the protag will be up against in the end.
I'm struggling. Only at page 26 and I'm currently producing a film alongside the day job. Not going to happen, I think.
Rick, I know how you feel. I'm going slowly as well. It can be tough juggling a bunch of other things at the same time. Just keep steadily working on it is my advice - use the deadline to perhaps get more done than you normally would and you never know, you still might make it.
Four weeks, isn't it? I'd prefer five with the way my second act is coming along, as in, it's not moving very well so far. I'm on page 40, but should be able to make the 45 I hoped for today, and maybe even hit 50 at a push.
Now my problem is having enough scenes to take me up to at least 90 pages altogether. Yesterday I made notes of all the scenes I know are to come, and at a conservative estimate I'm not even sure I'll hit 80 by the end.
It's certainly a bit of a worry at the moment. I could go for a few dialogue heavy scenes, as they eat up pages, but I'd rather fill it with some form of action. Having done a statistics report on final draft, I have 69% action and 25% dialogue, and I like those percentages.
But then, I guess this is part of the fun. Working stuff out and being able to push through in order to make a deadline. It's both exciting and frustrating at the same time. Maybe I'll just throw in a ten page car chase and fill it with random explosions and fruit carts being knocked over and conveniently placed ramps allowing for huge jumps. You know, just cos.
I'd not worry about the length of the script. I usually, these days, go for anything in between 80-85 pages. My vomit draft clocks in at 89 pages, but as it stands, at 26 pages now, I've surpassed page 35 of the trash version. By the time this ends, it may not even hit 85 pages. It'll likely settle in the 78-81 page region.
I'd not worry about the length of the script. I usually, these days, go for anything in between 80-85 pages. My vomit draft clocks in at 89 pages, but as it stands, at 26 pages now, I've surpassed page 35 of the trash version. By the time this ends, it may not even hit 85 pages. It'll likely settle in the 78-81 page region.
I'm actually no longer too worried. I've hit the 45 pages that I hoped for by today, and with the added bad guy stuff, I feel it will hit the mid/high 80's, and maybe even the 90 I wanted.
Plus, there is quite a bit of action in there, so I'm guessing if it were ever translated to screen, it would be over the one page per minute anyway.
I'm having quite a bit of fun with it too. I've written my first fist fight, my first fight involving martial arts, my first gun fight (or 'fight' where guns are involved) and just recently, my first sex scene.
A lot of firsts going down for me, and I'm feeling pretty confident I can get to my most important first as well... FADE OUT.
I'm not 100% sure who set up this challenge, I'm assuming it was between Pia and Don, but I just wanted to say thanks for providing the inspiration I needed to get back in the writing zone. Whilst it certainly is challenging, I'm having an absolute blast.
Thanks.
And that also goes to those who have helped and encouraged me along the way too.
I'm actually no longer too worried. I've hit the 45 pages that I hoped for by today, and with the added bad guy stuff, I feel it will hit the mid/high 80's, and maybe even the 90 I wanted.
Plus, there is quite a bit of action in there, so I'm guessing if it were ever translated to screen, it would be over the one page per minute anyway.
I'm having quite a bit of fun with it too. I've written my first fist fight, my first fight involving martial arts, my first gun fight (or 'fight' where guns are involved) and just recently, my first sex scene.
A lot of firsts going down for me, and I'm feeling pretty confident I can get to my most important first as well... FADE OUT.
I'm not 100% sure who set up this challenge, I'm assuming it was between Pia and Don, but I just wanted to say thanks for providing the inspiration I needed to get back in the writing zone. Whilst it certainly is challenging, I'm having an absolute blast.
Thanks.
And that also goes to those who have helped and encouraged me along the way too.
Churs.
You wrote a sex scene? I tried that once, it was awkward. I didn't know what I was doing and it really didn't go so well.
That's writing a sex scene, btw. Just in case someone thought otherwise.
I'll stick to action, dragon dogfights and explosions, lol.
As for me, I "thought" I had the concept figured a couple days ago. Was supposed to write an outline, then as I juggled the story in my mind it started to sound a lot like a movie I saw even if it's different in so many ways. It was also too complicated for me to write a first draft within the given time frame. Then I was torn between old concepts I thought about before where a lead in his 50's could easily fit. They all had the ticking clock device already. But some I dismissed because I felt a lead in his 50's might be a bit out of place, some because the ticking clock wasn't really a ticking clock, others because I imagined the final product will have scenes very similar to what has been done before the only difference will be the character motivation. Long story short, I wasted a lot of time doing a lot of thinking and no writing.
*Picture me as disappointed as a man who had all the right numbers in his lottery ticket except for the last one*
But I found a new concept that seems fresh and simple enough for me to write before the deadline. Sounds promising, right? I won't do the same mistake again and juggle it in my mind, no sir. I will just write @#!$% and whenever that @!@#$ inner critic starts talking inside my head:"This has already been done. You don't have enough story for a feature. What would you do in the second act?" I will just use the old childish trick:"LALALALALA! I'm not listening I'm writing. The keyboard keys are too loud I can't hear you talking!" Hopefully it will work.
I tried that once, it was awkward. I didn't know what I was doing and it really didn't go so well. That's writing a sex scene, btw. Just in case someone thought otherwise. ...
... But I found a new concept that seems fresh and simple enough for me to write before the deadline. Sounds promising, right? I won't do the same mistake again and juggle it in my mind, no sir. I will just write @#!$% and whenever that @!@#$ inner critic starts talking inside my head:"This has already been done. You don't have enough story for a feature. What would you do in the second act?" I will just use the old childish trick:"LALALALALA! I'm not listening I'm writing. The keyboard keys are too loud I can't hear you talking!" Hopefully it will work.
Very funny and so true. That's a writer for you. I relate wholeheartedly. Just keep getting something down on the page. That's what I'm trying to do - you know, that 'it'll write itself' thing. Yeah, right. Here's hoping.