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Mr. Blonde
Posted: June 6th, 2019, 3:28am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from DustinBowcot
Well, if one doesn't have to follow the criteria, why, indeed?


Because there's no prize for winning and cheating by using an old script is, literally, cheating yourself on this. The challenges I do are only there to incentivize writers who, otherwise, may not be tempted to write anything without a prompt. So, I give them a prompt.


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Warren
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I can't see what Jeff says and I don't particularly care either.

Yes, any well writen story that has great characters and dialogue, and meets the criteria, as criteria is also part of the scoring.

Nobody would purposely write outside of the criteria, I just can't see that happening. The competition can run its course and we can see if it happens then adjust from there. At the moment you're talking about something that hasn't happened.

People here are brutal, no one would let a script that is clearly outside of the required criteria stand. It could merely be marked as a DNR.

But one does have to follow the criteria, and in this first round everybody did, or you can at least see an attempt to. The things you are concerned about are completely unfounded at this point.


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DustinBowcot
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Quoted from Mr. Blonde


Because there's no prize for winning and cheating by using an old script is, literally, cheating yourself on this. The challenges I do are only there to incentivize writers who, otherwise, may not be tempted to write anything without a prompt. So, I give them a prompt.


How is it cheating yourself to use an old script? This is a tough challenge. This isn't about writing one script, it's 5... and done in 72 hours. If I hadn't written in a while, I'd be put off by that prospect. I don't buy that with this challenge. An OWC works because it takes its time and I can see that being what you said... but this? You'll have to try harder than that. All I see is the regulars and even half of us aren't entering this because of how much effort it takes.

This challenge is definitely for the real writers and is a challenge against each other. Let's not kid ourselves otherwise. Everybody wants to beat the other guy/person.
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Matthew Taylor
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Quoted from Warren

But one does have to follow the criteria, and in this first round everybody did, or you can at least see an attempt to...


I marked 8 of them as NOT meeting the criteria - one of them had 6 pages lol


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I think I'm up to 5 points now  


I see your 5... and I'll raise it to 9   Although I'm not convinced I've got yours right - which is annoying as I thought I had you pegged lol


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... as you're a good writer, just a shitty everything else.




I mean, I don't agree with the latter part of the sentence.... But I lol'd  - I'm so immature


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DustinBowcot
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A suggestion...

A challenge like this would be better suited running throughout the year and not over 5 weeks. The points can be tallied over a year and maybe even include OWC points too.


In the current set-up, it doesn't encourage full participation and, IMO, this has the opposite effect of 'getting people to write'... yawn. The thrill of this is in the competition we have against each other. To have a full scoreboard - that should be viewable permanently - may encourage greater participation... it will even force us to enter when we may not want to (quickly writing something on a flight for example) just so we can grab some points.

The winners will always be the winners... so for the people at the bottom, for them, they will just want to improve on what they got last year. Even entering late will be fine as your points can be guaged (not scored!) relatively.
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DustinBowcot
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The idea that we need to 'get people to write' on a forum for writers seems very strange to me.
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Warren
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Quoted from Matthew Taylor


I marked 8 of them as NOT meeting the criteria - one of them had 6 pages lol


Yes I marked a few as not meeting the criteria as well, I guess the word I used was "attempted" and I think people did, even the 6 pager, it was two lines over and for whatever reason they didn't bring it back to 5 pages, so that was a failed attempt. I still don't think anyone went out of their way to break the rules as Dustin is suggesting.


Quoted from Matthew Taylor
I see your 5... and I'll raise it to 9   Although I'm not convinced I've got yours right - which is annoying as I thought I had you pegged lol


I'm actually up to 6 now, but 9, damn. Be interested to see how many you get this time.



Quoted from Matthew Taylor
I mean, I don't agree with the latter part of the sentence.... But I lol'd  - I'm so immature


Turns out I can see what Jeff says if someone quotes him. I take it that was directed at me? Jeff's opinion means so little to me that I blocked him. He has nothing to offer me on SS. Well technically I don't think he has much to offer anyone but that's for them to decide. Either way, he literally doesn't exist in my SS experience and it's been a great place to be



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DustinBowcot
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You might disagree with somebody, but one day they may say something you learn from. It's always worth keeping an ear open.
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Quoted from DustinBowcot
You might disagree with somebody, but one day they may say something you learn from. It's always worth keeping an ear open.


Jeff? Unlikely, I'll take my chances  


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Mr. Blonde
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Quoted from DustinBowcot
A challenge like this would be better suited running throughout the year and not over 5 weeks. The points can be tallied over a year and maybe even include OWC points too.


Give it a shot. Some people may be into that.


Quoted from DustinBowcot
In the current set-up, it doesn't encourage full participation and, IMO, this has the opposite effect of 'getting people to write'... yawn. The thrill of this is in the competition we have against each other.


It was never meant to encourage full participation. It's meant to encourage participation among those who want to take part and have the willingness to do so. As for the last part, if you're speaking for yourself, that's fine. Not so much if you're speaking for other people.


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DustinBowcot
Posted: June 6th, 2019, 4:54am Report to Moderator
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Why isn't it fine if I'm speaking for other people? There's clealry competition between each other. You're even using a scoreboard.
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DustinBowcot
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I wonder if it's fine to speak for other people when I say they don't want to be in a car accident today? Or get hit by a train? It's fine to speak for other people when the statement is an obvious one.
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Man, I’m kinda sorry I brought this up.  I withdraw the question.


An utterly mediocre writer who somehow still falls bass ackwards into getting some of his scripts produced.
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I've seen a couple of comments re scoring, I assume these are referencing people's notes rather than an actual voting system I've missed the link to?


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Matthew Taylor
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Quoted from AnthonyCawood
I've seen a couple of comments re scoring, I assume these are referencing people's notes rather than an actual voting system I've missed the link to?


You did miss the link. Here it is -----> https://simplyscripts.com/WT-Test.html


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