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leitskev
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I think some people are looking for reasons to DQ based on criteria. For me, I think we need to be as generous as possible, especially with this fusion thing. If there are futuristic elements and speculative technologies, it's sci fi. If there are violent killings or monsters, it's horror. If there are attempts at humor, funny or not, it's comedy. It's amazing how many comments seem to be looking for reasons to DQ someone because of some subjective interpretation of genre.
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I think it is designed to be that way, as several of us have commented - if a script misses the parameters, it should get the lowest overall score it possibly can.

Prose, dialogue, characters, and story don't even matter, because it has missed the challenge parameters.



You're missing my point . That's okay.  I can't think of any other way of saying it. We do generally agree that scripts should meet the parameters.




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Quoted from leitskev
I think some people are looking for reasons to DQ based on criteria. For me, I think we need to be as generous as possible, especially with this fusion thing. If there are futuristic elements and speculative technologies, it's sci fi. If there are violent killings or monsters, it's horror. If there are attempts at humor, funny or not, it's comedy. It's amazing how many comments seem to be looking for reasons to DQ someone because of some subjective interpretation of genre.


You've got to differentiate on something. There are so few categories and so many scripts.
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You've got to differentiate on something. There are so few categories and so many scripts.


Seems to me there's a world of difference between DQing someone and scoring it lower because you didn't dig the way the fusion was done.
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leitskev
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After my initial scoring I had 3 scripts that I felt didn't even really try to fuse two genres. But I went back and looked closely at each one to make sure I wasn't missing something. I don't want to be looking for excuses to DQ something, especially if the script was competent.
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Dreamscale
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OK, so there's 1 script which has ScI FI as 1 of the category, and the only Sci Fi elements in the entire script, is a dream sequence, which really has nothing to do with the rest of the script/story.

For me, this clearly did not meet the parameters - thoughts?
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Quoted from leitskev
After my initial scoring I had 3 scripts that I felt didn't even really try to fuse two genres. But I went back and looked closely at each one to make sure I wasn't missing something. I don't want to be looking for excuses to DQ something, especially if the script was competent.


Jeez, it's not DQ'ing if it didn't meet the criteria - it just means they score lower in 1 of 5 categories - if it's competent then you score highly in the other categories.

Sounds like you are being too nice in your scoring - how is it fair on the other scripts who deffo met the criteria if you score that ones that didn't the same because your worried about giving them too low a score? How will that allow the best ones to rise to the top?


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Quoted from Dreamscale
OK, so there's 1 script which has ScI FI as 1 of the category, and the only Sci Fi elements in the entire script, is a dream sequence, which really has nothing to do with the rest of the script/story.

For me, this clearly did not meet the parameters - thoughts?


Not sure it's good form to dissect a script here, especially if voting is still on. I'd use a generic example.


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If in doubt over the cri, DNR is your friend



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Jeez, it's not DQ'ing if it didn't meet the criteria - it just means they score lower in 1 of 5 categories - if it's competent then you score highly in the other categories.

Sounds like you are being too nice in your scoring - how is it fair on the other scripts who deffo met the criteria if you score that ones that didn't the same because your worried about giving them too low a score? How will that allow the best ones to rise to the top?



I think some people are going out of their way to look for reasons. I made a joke earlier: "If the bobblehead can be replaced by a sock puppet, DQ it!"

I think it would have been better to be able to score on criteria like the other categories. That's how I set up my scoresheet. This gave some flexibility. I mean it's getting crazy. I story will have clear elements of 2 genres, a prominent bobblehead, and in a shrink's office, and we're seeing people say it doesn't meet the criteria. So it will get a 1 in that?

Jeff: I didn't consider the space dream to be sci fi. Especially since it was just tacked on with no other space elements.

I also didn't think my favorite one met the criteria. It was comedy horror, the horror being when she carves up the bobbleheads. That's not really horror.

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Matthew Taylor
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If certain reviewers feel that way, then yes. Each reviewer has their own personal views, let them get on with it.

You may be over thinking it, it's 1 category of 5... Amongst 15-20 reviewers... Over 5 rounds. Have faith that the balance of averages will send the best to the top


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Quoted from Matthew Taylor
If certain reviewers feel that way, then yes. Each reviewer has their own personal views, let them get on with it.

You may be over thinking it, it's 1 category of 5... Amongst 15-20 reviewers... Over 5 rounds. Have faith that the balance of averages will send the best to the top


As is always the case.


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Just did the scorecard.  12 were DNS(one was my own lol) The highest score I gave in any category was 4



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Quoted from leitskev
I think some people are looking for reasons to DQ based on criteria. For me, I think we need to be as generous as possible, especially with this fusion thing. If there are futuristic elements and speculative technologies, it's sci fi. If there are violent killings or monsters, it's horror. If there are attempts at humor, funny or not, it's comedy. It's amazing how many comments seem to be looking for reasons to DQ someone because of some subjective interpretation of genre.


If I see the attempts at comedy (or any genre for that matter), I'm saying it was there.  I put up a list of the types of comedy earlier, there is a really broad range.

People keep using the word DQ. The way Sean has this set up, you canít be DQ'ed for anything, and itís just the difference between 1 and 5 points.


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Quoted from Warren


If I see the attempts at comedy (or any genre for that matter), I'm saying it was there.  I put up a list of the types of comedy earlier, there is a really broad range.

People keep using the word DQ. The way Sean has this set up, you canít be DQ'ed for anything, and itís just the difference between 1 and 5 points.


Yep. No DQ


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