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Warren
Posted: June 5th, 2019, 11:32pm Report to Moderator
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Quoted from LC


It's pretty cut and dry if you ask me.
The cream usually rises to the top.


Yip, agreed.


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Dreamscale
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But thatís entirely based on what you think.

Sean's system and scoring implies otherwise. He decided not to go with the usual OWC scoring so we use what we're given in the manner it was intended to be used. I donít think we should be comparing it to how we would score an OWC, but how Sean has asked. The scripts that tick off most areas will still rise to the top.

I donít know, that makes sense to me.


If that's what you truly believe, and if that's how you're scoring, then we're in agreement...BUT...

That's obviously not how others are, as is very clear from numerous peeps' responses.

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Dreamscale
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The criteria is the most important aspect of each script in this   Doesnít matter how good the rest of it is.  


SPOT ON, Brother Stevie!!!  America and Australia is in complete agreement!!

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Except cause I'm a stickler, I should have said: Cut And Dried.  

Blame it on (just like Stevie) I have a bad cold. Hate Winter.


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Yeah mine isnít too bad today Lib!  I was able to do my workout this morn then I went to bed lol    Working tonight but Iíll be ok  I think the running nose bit is gone next Up is the cough    I love winter actually  itís 21 here now and great    Going to Victoria on the 14th with my kids for my dads 80th   First time home in winter since 1986 lol

Back to topic:   the criteria has to be the most important part of this because where is the challenge?  



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Scar Tissue Films
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We ignore our own scripts, right?
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Warren
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Back to topic:   the criteria has to be the most important part of this because where is the challenge?  


It is the most important part, thatís why itís between a criteria met (5) and criteria not met (1), there just also happens to be several other categories to vote in, unlike an OWC where we would decide on one score based on all the information (criteria, dialogue, characters, etc.)

I donít make the rules.

Personally I think the easiest part is meeting the criteria, any average writer can make sure they put everything in that needs to be there, it may not be great but they can still do it. It takes a better writer to actually write in an engaging way with interesting characters, why not let that be rewarded?

Does anyone really think any of the better scripts didnít meet the criteria? Good writers will make sure they hit all the marks, so I think this is almost a non-issue anyway.

I get what youíre saying about the challenge, but again, this isnít an OWC.


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We ignore our own scripts, right?


For voting, Sean said he would screen out people who vote for their own anyway. So the vote won't count either way.


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Dreamscale
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For voting, Sean said he would screen out people who vote for their own anyway. So the vote won't count either way.


Mine got a 5.0!      

How you doin', Warren?  Are you pleased with how your script is getting reviewed?  I hope I loved it!  Maybe I did, as you're a good writer, just a shitty everything else.


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DustinBowcot
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If a script doesn't meet the criteria it should score a 1 across the board. The point of the criteria is that it forces somebody to write a new script (mostly). How easy to doctor an old script (that may have had weeks worth of work put in) if the criteria isn't that important?
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No bobblehead doll? That doesn't matter, the rest still get 5s.
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I can't help but think that if you don't like the scoring, maybe you shouldn't play. We all signed up for this and the playing field was clearly established. Let it play out and complain about it for the next one if you feel the need.


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DustinBowcot
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I'm not playing. The scoring system is skewed. I don't see the point in complaining afterward. Things can just as easily be changed now. It's not like it's set in stone.
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Warren
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No bobblehead doll? That doesn't matter, the rest still get 5s.


I don't think anyone is saying that. The criteria are as important as the rules deem them to be. In an OWC it's win or lose, here it's just one part.

Would be a pretty pointless task to submit something that is completely void of the required criteria. I don't see how it benefits anybody. Why even bother participating?



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DustinBowcot
Posted: June 6th, 2019, 3:19am Report to Moderator
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Quoted from Warren


I don't think anyone is saying that.


But they clearly are. As Jeff has pointed out. The logic is undeniable. The bobblehead thing is clearly hyperbole.



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The criteria are as important as the rules deem them to be. In an OWC it's win or lose, here it's just one part.


Exactly. So any story can win then. The criteria is merely, to you, one part of this exercise. So a story that doesn't match the criteria can win solely on its other merits. If the criteria can be ignored then any old story can be cut to suit. The Bobblehead doll is merely a Mcguffin anyway.


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Would be a pretty pointless task to submit something that is completely void of the required criteria.


Not if one wanted to stay in the challenge and needed a quick-fix script that will still score points.



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Why even bother participating?


Well, if one doesn't have to follow the criteria, why, indeed?
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