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In all corners of the world you can find a shit hole tyrannical nation to live and suffer in. Have fun under some other human being's rule of law. I'm sure you'll prosper really well there. Let me know how you do.
I don't think so. I come from a military family where my father and brother both served in overseas battlefields during wartime conflicts. I honor them, and my right to speak freely when I see injustice. As for the "love it or leave it" mentality, that didn't work during the Vietnam years, and it doesn't work now.
Perhaps Obama can dismantle the entire apparatus of illegal domestic surveillance, foreign military strikes, and torture programs that he's inherited, expanded, and made such merry use of. Presumably not. Instead it'll go to the guy most often trending.
The U.S. rolled the dice, and I suppose we're all in suspense.
If things start to go as badly for women, immigrants, and minorities as it seems they may, I hope y'all in the U.S. will be forceful in opposition.
If things start to go as bad for women? What? What policies has Trump advocated that will harm women? What policies has he proposed that are bad for immigrants(legal) or minorities?
This type of exaggeration is, I guess, the inevitable outcome to demonizing those who don't agree with you, which the Left has done ever since it's been known as the Left.
Trump has generally supported gay marriage. Clinton and Obama opposed it until a Biden gaff forced their hand in 2012. That was 4 years ago!
I remember conservatives saying Obama wanted to install sharia in the United States. Anyone I knew who said this I came right out and told them they were crazy.
What I am seeing from the Left is just as crazy. And unlike the Right, this craziness is not limited to a fringe. Rather it seems to be the prevailing affliction.
Trump us not a racist, nor a misogynist(except in the JFK sense), nor is he anti-semite. I mean this liberal playlist is getting old, and that's why people are rejecting it. You can't call everyone who disagrees with you racist.
If I link the FBI crime rates as broken down by race, am I a racist? Or am I trying to understand the real problems in those communities? It really depends on my intent, but in the liberal mind, even to point this data out makes me automatically racist.
It's part of the liberal religion. Instead of the rosaries, it's call 10 people racist before lunch and your sins shall be healed.
Which(sshh, here's the dirt secret) is REALLY what it's all about.
What policies has he proposed that are bad for immigrants(legal) or minorities?
Seriously?
Women: Supports reversing Supreme Court precedent of Roe Vs. Wade (at one point even stating that women who have an abortion should be "punished" by law - he later retracted it, but we know what he'd like to do); supports GOP stance on not passing the federal Paycheck Fairness Act (equal pay for women).
Immigrants: Proposes a religious test for legal immigration to the U.S. (unconstitutional); singled out only Mexicans for deportation for cause.
Minorities: Proposes stop and frisk in the inner cities (unconstitutional), which disproportionately targets and incarcerates people of color.
If you're hanging your hat on his support of gay marriage, you need to honestly portray his position. He neither supports it or opposes it. He has no position other than saying the matter has been settled by the Supreme Court, so that's that. That's not a position.
You say that Trump is not a racist. Maybe. But the racists sure celebrate his policies. That says something.
I don't think so. I come from a military family where my father and brother both served in overseas battlefields during wartime conflicts. I honor them, and my right to speak freely when I see injustice. As for the "love it or leave it" mentality, that didn't work during the Vietnam years, and it doesn't work now.
With all seriousness, go to these theocratic, tyrannical regions of the world, take notes about all the great things you see there and report back your findings. You can do it!
No one said giving up your US citizenship was necessary (oh wait, yeah, the Hollywood knuckle-headed libs promised to leave if Trump won.) That's right, I recall them saying it. Some of them were heading to Canada, right? Oh darn, the Canadian immigration website instantly and conveniently crashed hours later. Too bad they couldn't leave. But they did mean to leave. Why don't they just walk across Canada's border and set up shop in a Canadian sanctuary city? Didn't just actually manage to do it. Liberal hypocrisy on full display. Sick. Twisted. Emo lies.
As far as your family's service, thank you. You should be honored. Doesn't mean that honor extends to you. You just remain under the blanket of security and spread your vitriol of lies to any fool who will listen.
With all seriousness, go to these theocratic, tyrannical regions of the world, take notes about all the great things you see there and report back your findings. You can do it!
No one said giving up your US citizenship was necessary (oh wait, yeah, the Hollywood knuckle-headed libs promised to leave if Trump won.) That's right, I recall them saying it. Some of them were heading to Canada, right? Oh darn, the Canadian immigration website instantly and conveniently crashed hours later. Too bad they couldn't leave. But they did mean to leave. Why don't they just walk across Canada's border and set up shop in a Canadian sanctuary city? Didn't just actually manage to do it. Liberal hypocrisy on full display. Sick. Twisted. Emo lies.
As far as your family's service, thank you. You should be honored. Doesn't mean that honor extends to you. You just remain under the blanket of security and spread your vitriol of lies to any fool who will listen.
I've traveled throughout Europe, Asia, South America and India, so I thank you for the lecture re other parts of the world, but been there done that. As for your comment that I spread a "vitriol of lies to any fool who will listen", I'm not sure how to react to that, so I'll just say, "Thank you for listening."
Trump us not a racist, nor a misogynist(except in the JFK sense), nor is he anti-semite. I mean this liberal playlist is getting old, and that's why people are rejecting it. You can't call everyone who disagrees with you racist.
I'm offering these clarifications not because I want to argue about them, but because, what the shit? Did I say anything about racism, misogyny, or anti-Semitism? Here is some of the thinking that leads me to worry about those groups while Trump and Pence have power. I'm not saying it's the correct thinking...just hoping to remind you that I, like most people, am driven by more than ideology.
Leave the out-group caricaturing for...well, for your in-group, I guess.
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Immigrants. Documented immigrants -- "extreme vetting" and suspended immigration from "terror-prone regions." Who could be in greater need of escape than people in "terror-prone regions"? Undocumented immigrants -- I imagine we disagree on this fundamentally, so we'll just have to recognize that the revocation of DACA, the lack of funding of sanctuary cities, and other such measures are things that I believe will hurt people unjustly.
Minorities. LGBTQ folks stand to suffer from the revocation of executive actions as well, in consideration of EO 13672. Chris Wallace asked if Trump would "try to appoint justices to overrule the decision on same-sex marriage" and Trump said he would "strongly consider" it. Racial minorities are likely going to find that already disproportionate policing will be further exacerbated by a renewed focus on "law and order," much as it was under Clinton's 1994 bill. The "Restoring Community Safety Act" is predicated on the false claim of "surging crime, drugs, and violence" in a time when y'all are quite wonderfully (relatively) peaceful. Not a good sign.
Women. Decreasing and/or withdrawing safe, legal abortion access for women -- a front-and-centre aspect of the Trump/Pence campaign -- is bad for women.
It's part of the liberal religion. Instead of the rosaries, it's call 10 people racist before lunch and your sins shall be healed.
It is, of course, absurd to paint every Trump supporter as a racist. That's just stupid.
But it is also undeniable, Kev, that a racist component (of indeterminate size) HAS attached itself to this administration -- like a leech -- apparently emboldened by what they see in a Trump/Pence ticket.
Whether that is fair or unfair, I honestly do not know, but how this administration addresses these associations will speak volumes.
Their appointments are the opening gambit to reassure those who are not yet part of the choir -- but right now, their choices seem to reflect that they do not much care about speaking to those who would be reassured. I find that disheartening.
As for your comment that I spread a "vitriol of lies to any fool who will listen", I'm not sure how to react to that, so I'll just say, "Thank you for listening."
Try harder to come up with a logical reaction that doesn't involve emo-over reaction. Perhaps you can invent some scenario where you can neatly file away my comments into "racism" or some other category that people like you place other people into so you can prove your class-ism/fascism/communism whatever. Just leave North America alone. Go to China and tell their population (which is 4x more than the US) how to think/act/spend their money/populate their neighborhoods. See how far you get there.
AS a request, I prefer to be put into the class of capitalism -- while not perfect, certainly a thousand times better than the alternatives.
I'm offering these clarifications not because I want to argue about them, but because, what the shit? Did I say anything about racism, misogyny, or anti-Semitism?
"If things start to go as badly for women, immigrants, and minorities as it seems they may, I hope y'all in the U.S. will be forceful in opposition."
Here is a prime example of race-baiting/sex-baiting/division politics/hate mongering, etc. Meanwhile, the guy in office for the last 8yrs (the guy I assume you support) sent his carbon footprint of tens of thousands of people hurling around the planet apologizing for 350 million (US citizens) to every half-ass backward govt. that "we" are the problem. F-that.
But being pro-life does not make one misogynist. The majority of women in this country are pro-life(though those polls change). In any case, it's close to an even split. Being pro-life means you think abortion is murder.
Having questions about Muslim immigration is a common sense reaction to a problem which has been growing. The only thing that prevents one from asking the question whether all cultures can adjust to the western way of understanding human rights is ideology. When you listen to Trump discuss this issue, he sounds like most people...torn. On the one hand he wants to not discriminate on the basis of religion, and he feels empathy for refugees. But on the other hand there are hard...real...questions about integration. And when innocents are being slaughtered, those questions are more than academic.
Stop and frisk was used to great success to reduce murders within the black community. Again, these things are complicated, I'm sorry if liberals can't perceive that. Personally, I think it's horrible that people can be stopped and frisked merely for walking in their own neighborhood. I would hope there are other solutions. But this has been going on in those communities for more than a generation now, and midnight basketball didn't work. So far over 600 people have been murdered in Chicago alone this year, all within a few neighborhoods, many of them innocent children. What is your solution? Please don't say free college tuition, or $15 minimum wage. Those things may or may not be worthwhile, but they will not stop the murders. And like it or not, nationwide gun control is not going to happen. Law abiding citizens want their guns for their own defense, and that's the way it is.
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Yes, there is a racist component, but let's not overstate it. More Hispanics and blacks voted for Trump than for Romney or McCain. Racists supported Trump, and Islamists supported Obama, not to mention communisists, socialists, and metrosexualists. Ok, I made up the last one.
The job of Trump is not to reassure liberals that he will maintain the Progressive agenda. I think Trump has made clear he will listen to all sides, and he should be commended for that. Sessions is probably the nomination that bugs you, but you might want to read both sides of that. The case for Sessions being a racist is weak and goes back 30 years. In the meantime, in the Senate he more than balanced that by supporting Civil Rights issues for his entire time there. Maybe you don't think that is sincere, but it's a long record, and if we're going to start holding people accountable for minor positions in their youth, man, we're not going to have another double standard on that are we?
I was very unhappy Trump was nominated. So far, though, I'm pleased. The Flynn pick seems shaky if he goes through with it for NSA, but overall Trump has demonstrated a seriousness and a care which is...Presidential. Maybe people do rise to the office.
Perhaps Obama can dismantle the entire apparatus of illegal domestic surveillance, foreign military strikes, and torture programs that he's inherited, expanded, and made such merry use of.
In other words, your assumption is incorrect.
I have mentioned above some of the specific policies that I think will be bad for particular groups. In the cases of women, immigrants, and LGBTQ people, the policies I've mentioned are specifically designed to deal with those groups. I don't know exactly what "sex-baiting" is -- sounds kinky -- but I doubt I am guilty of it.
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