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I find it insulting when people (not just you but many others) insinuate abrasiveness equates to honesty. Where in the world do people get that idea? Why on Earth would someone question the integrity of people simply because they’re polite. It’s insulting.
I’ve seen abrasive reviews that were of highly questionable integrity. The reviewer just wanted to tear the writer down for whatever reason. Reviews can be unfair whether the writer is anonymous or not. Some writers can’t stand to see another writer succeed. It happens.
The point is that just because a reviewer calls a script a piece of shit doesn’t mean he’s honest. And just because a reviewer isn’t an abrasive asshole doesn’t make them dishonest.
Breanne
Breanne, you seem to think that if someone points out plagierism that means they're abrasive. or as you so delicately put it, an abrasive asshole. I hope the irony is not lost...
I don't even think he gave my script more than a scan. This was evident from his review asking what the secret was, pretty much saying it was badly written without making any effort whatsoever at understanding it. And you know what. I didn't have a single problem with that. My script isn't perfect and I know when a review is a write off and someone hasn't read my script. I've been in the realm of peer reviews for a long time.
I did however have a problem with his later bravado about being able to go line by line through the script in order to tell us how badly written it was. Especially because I don't even believe he actually made a real effort to read it the first time.
I don't expect that my script is perfect. I wrote it in 8 hours. However, I do take exception to it being called badly written. It may have some mistakes but I would hardly call the script a write off.
And this is the main problem with Jeff and I've defended him in the past because I believe this. Jeff is not capable yet of expressing his thoughts about a script in writing. His criticism comes off as insulting rather than constructive as he intends it to be. This is why Jeff often feels he is the victim in these situations.
So when you say it's ok for Jeff to write these kind of reviews you are actually promoting misunderstandings on the site. And, more importantly, you are not encouraging Jeff to increase his written communication abilities.
Those are my thoughts on this situation and likely the last I will say about it.
Breanne, you seem to think that if someone points out plagierism that means they're abrasive. or as you so delicately put it, an abrasive asshole. I hope the irony is not lost...
Maybe you should confine your comments to what I actually said and not what you guess I seem to think. I have no idea what you’re talking about. And I suspect you don’t either.
But if you have a problem with what I seem to think, maybe you should learn what I actually think before you shoot off your mouth.
The point is that just because a reviewer calls a script a piece of shit doesn’t mean he’s honest. And just because a reviewer isn’t an abrasive asshole doesn’t make them dishonest.
Are you saying that the above statements aren’t true? Are you saying that calling a script a piece of shit is evidence of honesty? Are you saying that being an abrasive asshole is evidence of honesty? Because all I said in the above quote is that that isn't true. If you disagree then please address that issue. I made no comments regarding plagiarism.
Please don't assume that you know what I understand and what I don't.
No assumptions here. And I have no idea why you’re making that statement.
I’m going by what you said. I have no idea how you got that I find calling someone on plagiarism means they’re abrasive. I made no such comments. From my standpoint, you just pulled that out of your ass.
Did you point out examples of my abrasiveness or was this flippant comment enough?
Why would I need to point out examples of your abrasiveness? I’ve made no comments regarding your abrasiveness. Again you’re just pulling stuff out of your ass. Honestly I think you’re paranoid.
I deleted the post since it bothers you. But perhaps in the future you should try and refrain from saying things that will bother you to see quoted.
Now that I’ve deleted something that obviously bothered you at the time but you didn’t say anything, can we get back to how you concluded that I think someone is an abrasive asshole for calling someone on plagiarism? I’d really like to hear how you arrived at that conclusion.
I've been around for a long long year... and it seems to me most of the arguments happen early in the year and spring here at SS. I found that weird. When spring is here fighting is the last thing on my mind.
C'mon people. Show each other some love... or I might get annoyed. Yes, that was a threat!
I tried to smooth things over. Didn’t work. Sorry.
I'm back on the boards for a little while. It's good to be back, actually. I've missed it. I'll have to leave again for a few months in the near future (no internet access where I'm going), but after that, I'm back for good.
No assumptions here. And I have no idea why you’re making that statement.
I’m going by what you said. I have no idea how you got that I find calling someone on plagiarism means they’re abrasive. I made no such comments. From my standpoint, you just pulled that out of your ass.
Why would I need to point out examples of your abrasiveness? I’ve made no comments regarding your abrasiveness. Again you’re just pulling stuff out of your ass. Honestly I think you’re paranoid.
I deleted the post since it bothers you. But perhaps in the future you should try and refrain from saying things that will bother you to see quoted.
Now that I’ve deleted something that obviously bothered you at the time but you didn’t say anything, can we get back to how you concluded that I think someone is an abrasive asshole for calling someone on plagiarism? I’d really like to hear how you arrived at that conclusion.
Breanne
Hilarious. Since you failed to point to a specific example(of my supposed abrasiveness) I used the point( being discussed) that elicit the particular response from you. Plagiarism.
I really am not in the mood for a tit for tat with you so let's end it here with this: You don't seem to get the irony of calling someone an abrasive asshole as abrasive.
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