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seamus19382
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Oooooooh!  So this is what we were talking about on the Constructive Criticism thread!  Now it all makes sense!

Well I'll say it.  I know it's not going to happen, but I am all for putting Dreamscale on the Pete Rose list.  I think he does more harm than good around here.  All the fights that have happened in here the last couple months have been instigated by him.  And usually I love a good flame war!  But these are pointless.  I mean, an argument because you don't like the screenplay we're doing in Script Club?  Insulting someone's wife because you don't like the EXAMPLE theme suggested for the One Month Contest?  Save that for threads about whether or not Obama's the Anti-Christ.

As has been said, there's a big difference between being honest and just being an ass.  "You're script is a pile of sh**" is most likely honest, but it certainly isn't thoughtful.  And probably not real helpful to the writer.  "I'll try to make the next draft less pile of sh**ty."  And the funny thing is, for all his "I pull no punches" BS, he absolutely can't handle criticism.  When we did his script in the Script Club, he actually claimed that he was being attacked!  By people who puta little ore thought into it than, THis is sh**.

And I think Giles is right.  The worst part of it is he really doesn't know what he's talking about.

Sorry to keep this going.  I've tried real hard to avoid getting involved.  It's been hard.  Like I said, I like a good flame war, and my will is weak!  But this lseemed iked both the time and the place.  
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I can't believe how this thing with Dreamscale has gone on and on...and with some respects...the malicious talk is as harsh as some say his critques are quilty of...it doesn't add up.  

I read both "Memories" and "Love is all You Need" and their offering seemed more like a joke than any kind of sincere effort for the challenge. Tell me really...what could we have possibly said that would help either of these posts?  I can't take them seriously.  I'm not as to the point as someone like Dreamscale, but I felt they were both an insult to the premise of this board.  They were pieces of do-do...is that a little kinder than calling them a piece of Shit?   

Forgive me, but the OWC challenges, in my mind is an event and challenge we all look forward to.  It's a time to put our best writing foot forward within the confines of the genre, page limit, time restraint, etc.

To be sure...both scripts mentioned above....whether they are from a newbie writer or someone who has been on the board for some time...both, in my opinion are rubbish. I was lured in based on their soft titles to find that they were actually not worthy of even the pages they were written on.  

Some have written they got a few shits and giggles and liked them....that to me is unbelievable, but I suppose that might have to do with age and gender more than it has to do with anything else.  

Since we're talking about offering the writers constructive criticism, then what good did those positive comments do for the author any more than Dreamscale's or mine or any other person who wrote they thought it was a terd?   If these writers wanted honest criticism, then maybe they might have thought to write something of value or at least written something that seemed like they respected the challenge and was worthy of an honest review...and further more...why are any of you getting upset over what he said about these or any of the other scripts he doesn't like. I think it's clear...that's what he thinks...    

That's like saying anyone who opens their mouth to sing (and obviously can't sing) should just keep singing because some people found it funny or entertaining.  If it wasn't meant to be funny, then that could also be painful feedback because people laughed...  If I'm sincere about singing and I obviously can't sing but still do...then I open myself up for that redicule.  

I know Dreamscale is tough and some may not like that, but I dare say, in trying to get your point across...some of you have become a gang of bullies.  I believe, for the sake of our board that if you have something harsh to say to each other, say it through a PM or an email privately.  

Dreamscale, due to location and time zone has helped me on a couple of our writing projects and while he can be tough...I do know that when he gives you a review he puts time into it and is sincere...maybe his delivery is not the way we would like to see it it, but I don't think you're ever going to get him to change his tune this way...you're just feuling the fire by being harsh yourselves.  His reviews  have challenged me plenty.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...he is entitled to his, good, bad or indifferent...I suppose the same as we are entitled to submit a short in an OWC contest that is going to be subject to some harsh reviews.  

Thinking of banning someone for something we all hold respectfully dear to us, "freedom of speech" is ludicrous!  

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I think this is an argument with men behaving like boys...I know there is a dislike of Dreamscale that has been building as I have heard it carry over into other arenas of communication and I don't like that...especially when I respect and appreciate the people and what I am learning here on SS. It saddens me.

Hopefully there is something we can learn from all of this with respect to how we treat each other.  Certainly an additional wrong never makes a right.  

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"Whether people speak well or ill of you, the main thing is that they speak of you!"


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And as it has just been stated in the other thread, these Dreamscale/Shelton/Giles discussions are over.

Go back to reading.


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First off, forget all the banning talk. Only Don can do that and itís pointless to bring it up. Besides, Dreamscale is nowhere near the harshest reviewer weíve ever had.

Secondly, All You Need Is Love is clearly a joke. There are joke scripts in almost every OWC and thereís no reason to get upset with them. They will probably never stop. And yes, a script can actually be a piece of shit. I think the author of that particular script would probably agree with Dreamscaleís review. Heís probably laughing his ass off right now. I thought the damn script was kind of funny.

Anyway, this board is like a family. A very large one. Weíre going to disagree sometimes and sometimes there will be heated arguments. You canít measure a family by their arguments alone. We have a lot of love here too. So letís all just calm down and give each other a great big hug.

Maybe if we all just love each other a little more, the world will be a better place. And isnít that really the point of All You Need Is Love?



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Quoted from Breanne Mattson
Maybe if we all just love each other a little more, the world will be a better place. And isnít that really the point of All You Need Is Love?


Well, all the same, I think I'll avoid the potato salad...


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Well, all the same, I think I'll avoid the potato salad...


Haha point taken.




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It's just a little salty, and I'm sure all the AIDS on it died not long after being exposed to the air.

You guys are wusses.


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I would also like to add Shelton to the Pete Rose list.  Thank you.
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Quoted from seamus19382
I would also like to add Shelton to the Pete Rose list.  Thank you.


You're welcome, and good luck with your quest.


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I don't get all this back and forth about Dreamscale's reviews. I mean, it's just his subjective opinion - harsh or not, honest or not - that's all it is. Take it for what it is - or don't take it for anything. It's totally up to you.

And, I would just like to remind all those who get upset by Dreamscale's reviews, that he wrote Fade To White. So, with that in mind, I really wouldn't get too down if he doesn't like your script.


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It's just a little salty, and I'm sure all the AIDS on it died not long after being exposed to the air.

You guys are wusses.


Yeah but you didnít bring the potato salad. That was my dish! And my good Tupperware!


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Yes, all are military leaders.    You get 10,000 points (totally worthless).


And I didnít know Bugs Bunny was a military leader. I knew he was in the army.


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And, I would just like to remind all those who get upset by Dreamscale's reviews, that he wrote Fade To White. So, with that in mind, I really wouldn't get too down if he doesn't like your script.


Look, I'm not a huge fan of Dreamscale's methods of reviewing either, but attacking and belittling him like this isn't really the answer.

Over the past few days several threads have spiraled out of control discussing this, and it really just needs to stop.

While I do wish he would use more tact in his reviews and consider the feelings of the author when he writes a curt review (even though sometimes it's hard to think of them as anything other than an avatar), attacking him in a writer's thread is not the way to handle this.

I really feel like the majority of what's happened over this past week could have been confined to PMs.  (This goes for posts from me as well.)  

In short, this really just has to stop.
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Am I belittling Jeff? I'm saying that, before you go balistic over his reviews, read his script to understand where he's coming from (review-wise). If you think Fade To White is golden then, by all means, take everything Jeff says as gospel. If you don't think the script's golden...then don't.


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Sniper...it's still a dig...or a "snipe"   

We have a lot of productive things to do like review all the 30 something OWC scripts.

It's good to keep a cover on your potato salad at a picnic


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