I get the sentiment here, and I'm one who's been guilty of taking feedback wrong.

JRyans has been a dick now and again, and I've pm'd him on this.

He's on a learning curve and we all take learning different ways.

It's easy for us to get on our high horses when he disrespects someone like Coop -- but then we all know what Coop's does -- JRyans doesn't - so I think his comments have been placed in ignorance more than defiance.

I don't know if he'll ever really contribute to the site in a valuable way, but maybe it's better to give people a chance -- I'm just thinking along the lines of persistent guidance more than kickin'. JMO.

Quoted from Forgive I don't know if he'll ever really contribute to the site in a valuable way, but maybe it's better to give people a chance -- I'm just thinking along the lines of persistent guidance more than kickin'. JMO.

I've said what I wanted to say. As of now, I'll go back to my normal self.

jryan, consider your chance given. I realise I've been a little unfair although I still stand by what I have said before.

Quoted from danbotha You sure about that? He's accused Coop of being high for simply voicing his opinion. For me, it's not that he has reacted negatively to the feedback, he's reacted negatively to the people who are trying to help him out. I get that he's trying to defend his script and there's a certain amount of respect to him for standing his ground. At the same time, he's here to get feedback, so why not learn to deal with the negatives?

C'mon... After years of Jeff, and prior to that myself, this stuff is lite...

Quoted from Baltis. C'mon... After years of Jeff, and prior to that myself, this stuff is lite...

Hahahaha! Can't argue, there...

First off, let me sneeze... Pew... done. Now let's talk--

Am I the only one here who English is a second language? I have a question to all native English speakers here, is QUESTION and ACCUSATION have the same meaning?

Quoted Text ...unrealistic dialogue which was filtered throughout. <<< really, are you high?

Are you sure it's an ACCUSATION? or is it "just" a QUESTION? One simple answer, "No, I'm not." or "I don't smoke." that'll do it all.

Quoted Text One question, Coop, what are you really doing here in SS? I see you have more than 600 posts but only one blond joke... I don't mean that. Only one short script delivered, 9pages.

In all conscience, I have no idea what is he doing here, really. That's why I asked. Again, one simple answer, "I've been awhile and also known as one of the contribute members in this site." Boom!!! that's all it takes. And whatever I said beyond that question it's only just an expression to the question in a sense of humor.

The above reminds me of the joker said to the batman, "Why so serious." Lolz...

To Dan, ???--

To irish-eyes, I can't do it myself. If I can, my PM wouldn't landed in your inbox. Please, it's only just a click. Don't be a penny-pitching, it's only a few seconds of your life. Thanks.

To Simon, let's get on with our works, please. I've just finished Tommy2 - 25pages and the Visit 2.0 at 20 but not even closed to the last part. God help me! I hope it end up well because it's my baby.

To all, I'm here to have my stories told the way it should be. Help me or avoid me, your choices. And I'll understand. Thanks.

Jimmy.

Quoted from danbotha jryan, consider your chance given. I realise I've been a little unfair although I still stand by what I have said before.

Have you misunderstood what I was trying to say, here? It's a brief attempt at an apology in case you haven't noticed. "I realise I've been a little unfair" means I accept that I was wrong and I'm sorry for that.

As far as hatred goes, I don't have time to hate anyone. Do you have any idea how much effort it takes to hate someone? I'm too lazy for that.

If you really don't want me making a further contribution to your work, fine. Fair enough. I can stay away. I just want you to know that I have apologized and that apology stands strong. But if you really want me to stay away, just say it and consider it done.

Dan,

Are you calm? Ok, don't stay away. Stay here, read my works and give feedbacks.

You didn't hate me, did you? Sorry, I thought you did. And sorry, I said I hated you. Forget about it. The only people I hate is terrorist(s) and 'm going to kill alot of them in my next script.

Let's get drunk, dan.

Jimmy.

Quoted from JR Are you calm? Ok, don't stay away. Stay here, read my works and give feedbacks.

Mildly depressed, actually, after watching a brilliant play put on by a local theatre company. Will hang around and give some feedback.

Quoted from JR And sorry I said I hated you. Forget about it.

Consider it forgotten

Quoted from JR The only people I hate is terrorist(s) and 'm going to kill alot of them in my next script.

Look forward to it

Quoted from JR Let's get drunk, dan.

Well, you can... I've still got 3 years until I'm legally allowed to drink alcohol. How's a ginger beer sound? It's got the word 'beer' ...

It's amazing what a simple apology can do for people, eh?

Oh yeah, and about the whole respect thing, I do respect you. I respect the way you stand up for yourself, to be honest. You don't just accept the criticism you defend it. That shows balls and above all, passion. Don't stop writing, mate. Seriously.

Daniel

Quoted from JR I think Coop can do it himself, if he wants to. He's a big guy or isn't?

So here I am.

I have to admit that I wanted nothing to do with this little disagreement because it was all a little childish and I thought it would be a waste of my time. I haven’t changed my mind on that BTW, I thought you were just an angry young man looking for attention and to be honest, my post was directed to Simon anyway. Maybe I should made that clear – my bad.

As to your questions and comments:

Quoted from JR You either skipped read or only read the first few pages of the script.

I rarely skip read, look at some of my posts and reviews and you will see that sometimes I go to great lengths with my notes/observations. I do have a tendency though to only read the first 5 to 10 pages of a script and this is just to see if it’s to my liking or not. If it’s not then I will rarely leave comments although on occasions I admit to having done so for a laugh or because I felt it was appropriate. None of us are perfect, right.

Quoted from JR The only way to know what's going on in the story is to read the whole thing. Simple, eh?

I did read the whole thing – twice! And let me add the first person to leave any feedback two weeks after the revision was uploaded… glad you appreciated the reads.

Quoted from JR You said you're not sure the whole meaning of the story.

Yes! Meaning of the story… I understand what the story is about but I don’t understand why it’s happening? Now this wouldn’t always matter but I’m a curious sod and you’re turning this into a feature so I think it will become an important question later down the line. Why would a spirit visit her brother so late in the pregnancy, what is the purpose of the visit – connection is vague and left me wondering is all. I don’t think you can build a feature around a subject matter as vague but this is just my opinion and it seems others like this tale so who cares what I think – I was just stating what I thought. Guess what you're going to get from a public forum - opinions and they're always different.

Quoted from JR What, are you smoking?

Nothing. Haven’t smoked in a long time, think over ten years now, thanks for asking.

Quoted from JR did you read the logline?

Yes.

Quoted from JR do you even know why it's called the Visit?

I think I have an idea.

Quoted from JR ...unrealistic dialogue which was filtered throughout. <<< really, are you high?

No. May have been drunk though…let me think. Yes it was late Monday so I would have been on my second bottle of red by then. I stand by my original comment.

Quoted from JR One question, Coop, what are you really doing here in SS?

Ah, the question we all want answered… what is the meaning of life? What! Sorry I’m going off topic. It’s a funny story, one day I was looking for a cooking forum to help me cook a soufflé but I just happened upon this site and haven’t been able to leave since… hence to say my partner is still asking for a soufflé.

Of course, I’m pulling your leg. I’m here hopefully for the same reason as everybody else, to become a better writer and story-teller and maybe help some other author’s along the way. It’s just been a bonus to make so many friends along the way.

Quoted from JR I see you have more than 600 posts but only one blond joke... I don't mean that. Only one short script delivered, 9pages.

I wasn’t aware of a strict script-to-post ratio that I had to adhere too. I’ll be sure to make sure I’m in line in the future. Thanks again for checking out my blond joke BTW. Glad it made you laugh.

That about does it for the questions. If you have any more personal questions like: What’s my favourite colour? Why do I support the Fremantle Dockers? What do I prefer? shiraz or cab sauv?

Ask them where they should be asked on a pm and don’t waste a lot of good people’s time with all this rubbish. Let’s just get back to writing and reading.

On a side note it’s good to see you and Dan kiss and make up.

I honestly wish you and Simon all the best with your upcoming work. I have to be honest and say I probably won’t read them unless you ask me but nonetheless – all the best with it.

Steve

Quoted from JR To irish-eyes, I can't do it myself. If I can, my PM wouldn't landed in your inbox. Please, it's only just a click. Don't be a penny-pitching, it's only a few seconds of your life. Thanks.

Done.

Thanks

Mark

Quoted Text Yes! Meaning of the story… I understand what the story is about but I don’t understand why it’s happening? Now this wouldn’t always matter but I’m a curious sod and you’re turning this into a feature so I think it will become an important question later down the line. Why would a spirit visit her brother so late in the pregnancy, what is the purpose of the visit – connection is vague and left me wondering is all. I don’t think you can build a feature around a subject matter as vague but this is just my opinion and it seems others like this tale so who cares what I think – I was just stating what I thought. Guess what you're going to get from a public forum - opinions and they're always different.

The Visit is part of a fantasy tales. When it comes to a fantasy, we all know some unexplanations would occured. The feature length of the Visit, the Connection, is already established as a first draft. I already finished it awhile since I posted the comment about the characters in it. Maybe be not fully finished because I still have the very last part in the outline. It's the last 10-15 pages. The Connection is a completed different tale from the Visit. All the kids in the Visit are gorwn up but David is still a Connection between the spirit and human being. That's why it's called the Connection. You're wrong at one thing, though. Of course, you can "build a feature around a subject matter as vague." Why? Because we're writers, fiction writers to be exact. I'm pretty sure you know the gigantic meaning of the word FICTION so, I don't have to explain more about it.

Quoted Text Of course, I’m pulling your leg. I’m here hopefully for the same reason as everybody else, to become a better writer and story-teller and maybe help some other author’s along the way. It’s just been a bonus to make so many friends along the way.

Never cross my mind... Wait! It's actually the other way around. I've always looking to it.

Quoted Text That about does it for the questions. If you have any more personal questions like: What’s my favourite colour? Why do I support the Fremantle Dockers? What do I prefer? shiraz or cab sauv?

No thank you. Let me double think... Uh... Still no. Lolz... I only have question(s) refer to SS and script(s). How did you come up with this, I wonder. Or you're just trying to deliver a joke?

Quoted Text On a side note it’s good to see you and Dan kiss and make up.

I prefer a different concept. It almost gives me goose-bump just to quote it. lmao...

Quoted Text I honestly wish you and Simon all the best with your upcoming work. I have to be honest and say I probably won’t read them unless you ask me but nonetheless – all the best with it.

Thanks. Simon is very patient and I really like to work with him. Please, do not give any more concept over this. Our discussions utterly over scripts and nothing else. No personal question or what-not. About you said you propably won't read my scripts. Well, I am asking you to. But don't ask me to beg because the way I beg people is, first punch them in the face - second, push them on the ground and kick them until they agree to stay on it - then grab a script and slap it on their faces and tell them, "Read it or else."  BAM! that was a joke. It only happens in the script. Did you fall for it? GOTCHA!

Quoted Text soufflé

Umm... One of my favorite. Do you know we make it with the whole egg? We don't separate the yolk but put the whole egg and mix with flour and bla bla... I don't cook but I somehow cross my eyes from time to time when they were making it, souffle. By "we," I mean my family.

Jimmy.

Quoted Text It's amazing what a simple apology can do for people, eh?

Bring me back to the old age, I'm still wonering who invented these word, apology and sorry. Haven't google yet, about to.

Quoted Text Oh yeah, and about the whole respect thing, I do respect you. I respect the way you stand up for yourself, to be honest. You don't just accept the criticism you defend it. That shows balls and above all, passion.

There is a word for it, "You fight for something you think it's right even if you are alone." Here this is a funny one, "All men got balls." Lolz...

Quoted Text Don't stop writing, mate. Seriously.

Never! So do you. Thanks.

Jimmy.

Irish-eye,

Quoted Text Done.

Thanks.

Ain't that something, 3 thanks for 1 click. You DO know how to do business, don't you. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a *D* or something. In fact, I just admire your deed, that's all.

Well, thanks again. Now make that 4 lolz...

Jimmy.

The Visit 2.0 is on the way, fans. Read the logline and the opening scene below--

Logline: A wandering spirit of a young girl soon learned that there is a CONNECTION to be born and becomes a human again.
Genre: Family, Fantasy, Supernatural.

FADE IN:

The SHRILLING SOUND OF CICADAS are dying away...

A rustling sound of leaves on a tree follows by the Chirping sound of crickets crying as of the middle of the night grows louder...

EXT. COUNTRYSIDE - HIGHWAY/DIRT ROAD - NIGHT

A mysterious WHITE LIGHT is flying fast along a countryside highway. It quickly turns to the right and disappears into a dirt road.

DIRT ROAD

Chirping sound of cricket...
Woods on both sides, the light is flying fast along the road past trees after trees follow by the rustling sound of leaves on the trees as wind blows past.

The light is flying slower and lower over on the road. As it gets lower... it grows bigger and bigger, and starts to form into a human like then slowly becomes clearly seen as a real human being.

EXTREME CLOSE ON: TWO EYES SHIFTING--

Pale-blue rims mix of white rays in the iris, the eyes - blink... LILLY (13), in a short white dress, barefoot, walks along across the dirt road.

Lilly leans to pick up a dead branch and continues to walk. She begins to hum a song...

LILLY
(humming)
Hmm... hmm hmm... hmm...

The humming continues...

Lilly spots a BRANCH hanging down from a tree above her head. She looks at the dead branch in her hand, tosses it away and walks closer to the hanging branch.

Lilly reaches up to the branch--

LILLY’S HAND

shiny BRACELETS, mixed colors.

The branch is out of reached.

Lilly shifts to look around. As she does...

The branch slowly REACHES down closer to her.

Lilly snaps a LEAF from the branch, and starts to walk as the branch swings back up behind her. She halts after a few steps and lifts a foot up, and, lays the leaf on her thigh and RUBS her fingers over as to clean off the dust.

Lilly stops humming. She brings the leaf closer to her mouth and wets it with her tongue, and, with both hands, she holds it between her lips and gently blows--

A MUSIC

of a leaf blowing grows louder out from Lilly’s lips...

It’s the same music of the song Lilly was humming.

Lilly slowly lets go off her hands, and the...

LEAF

slowly floats away from Lilly’s lips but the music continues. The leaf floats and shifts around closely to Lilly.

Lilly starts to walk and begins to hum the song along the music of the leaf. She walks further and farther away with the leaf swinging and shifting around her.
Lilly and the leaf slowly disappears into the dark... and as the music and Lilly’s humming voice dying away, the--

SHRILLING SOUND OF CICADAS

grow louder and louder from afar...

                                                                                       To be continued...

Will be released along with Tommy2(Lelia) or a little bit later after SS caught up with their past submissions.

"The wandering spirit of a young girl learns the powerful link between life, death and rebirth."

A quick example, but go with a more subtle logline...  Like the above.