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My apologies to all the writers of scripts I didn't get to, but I'm all done here.
The BS of deleting my posts over and over really pisses me off. There's a Mod who really likes her power and loves to wield it.
Have fun. Kid out.
That's not cool. It's beyond censorship. Bring it to Don's attention, we can't have mods abusing their power just because they don't like something or someone.
My apologies to all the writers of scripts I didn't get to, but I'm all done here.
The BS of deleting my posts over and over really pisses me off. There's a Mod who really likes her power and loves to wield it.
Have fun. Kid out.
Hmm.
Jeff, I think it is important to keep in my mind that the comments deleted had nothing to do with a script review. From my recollection every single comment related to the actual script was retained on the thread. I can't speak for Libby of course, but from my read this is what happened.
A writer posts a script. It is a bit controversial because of the nature of the story. The first ten or so comments deal directly with the script and then the thread blows up with a back and forth between peeps on what constitutes torture porn. Not really fair to a writer to have a thread that is ostensibly dedicated to a review of his script turn into something different. So Libby - as a moderator - post this.
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I suggest taking this to a another thread if you want to further debate what writers should write, the definition of torture porn etc.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion.
This particular thread should concentrate on script reviews only.
Okay - so that was a nice way of saying please concentrate on the review of the script.
Well, of course what immediately happens after that is a dozen posts on whether a particular writer's comments on all of the scripts were substantial enough blowing up the thread once again and peppering it with comments that had nothing to do with the script - again, if you are the writer of that script - would you want your review thread populated with a ton of unrelated comments??? I wouldn't.
So, after asking for reviewers to focus on the script and then having that request being totally ignored - some comments not related to the script were deleted. I agree with that action. But add to that the fact that moderators here are unpaid trying to moderate this site while there regular life goes on - even if Libby made a mistake - which I don't think she did - really? There is a need to call it out like this??
I'm not aware of comments being deleted on other threads - please let me know if I am missing something.
Anyway - I appreciate you commenting on the scripts you did even though you didn't enter. That was nice of you to spend the effort.
I'm sure there are some here with equally, if not more, busy lives who have still managed to read them all.
Script Supervisor on a short doesn't strike me as something that would take up too much time. It sounds like a weak excuse to get out of reading 33 entries to me.
I know, and script supervisor is my official role there, but I do much more than that. What's keeping me busy now is getting my wife and kids prepped for me not being home for a week when it wasn't expected, wrapping up a couple of consultations earlier than expected, and getting my job covered.
Besides, I have no pony in this race. My job was to provide a challenge and manage it, and I'm doing that.
I know, and script supervisor is my official role there, but I do much more than that. What's keeping me busy now is getting my wife and kids prepped for me not being home for a week when it wasn't expected, wrapping up a couple of consultations earlier than expected, and getting my job covered.
Besides, I have no pony in this race. My job was to provide a challenge and manage it, and I'm doing that.
Correct - you had no obligation to review any script. What you did review was above and beyond.
I would put a "whoa" on the rogue mod unless you are aware of details that we are not. Just PM Libby to find out what happened then reach a conclusion. My opinion anyway.
Scores submitted - I said at the start I probably wouldn't have the chance to read many, but the lure of reading "just 1 more" was too strong lol. Now I have shit loads of studying to catch up on
Apologies for the brevity of some of my comments, as I said, not a lot of time - so some comments suffered so I could get round to them all. Not that anyone gives a hoot about my opinion, but feel free to PM me if anyone wants further notes - I can get round to it at some point.
Random musings;
- Quality was generally high, can't hazard a guess as who will come out with "writers choice" - Criteria. IMO, A lot of you are far too accommodating with marking entries as criteria met (based on comments). Seems unfair on those entries who actually bothered to incorporate the criteria. - Newbies! this is for you - don't be afraid to leave your thoughts. You don't have to be a competent writer to be able to say what you liked/disliked about a story. - Newbies! this is also for you. It can be hard to read comments on your own script subjectively. Stalk the reviewers who have left you comments, check out the comments they leave on other entries (and read the entry itself) - gives you a good overview of the reviewer, which ones whose opinion you value more (Also pay attention to trends, there usually isn't smoke without fire) - Too many combinations of Snow/Storm/Shovel - a snowstorm, ticking two boxes at once, come on guys lol - You guys put my imagination to shame! seriously, where do you lot come up with this stuff? - Thanks for not writing 33 horrors.
As always, thanks to Don and Rene for hosting - It's been a blast. Once again you have all knocked me down a peg with the quality of your work - One day I'll be up there with ya
As for the deleted posts, I wasn't online to catch what happened and it's not the way I would have handled it, but that thread is getting really carried away. Take it up in a dedicated thread if you really want the discussion.
Scores submitted - I said at the start I probably wouldn't have the chance to read many, but the lure of reading "just 1 more" was too strong lol. Now I have shit loads of studying to catch up on
Apologies for the brevity of some of my comments, as I said, not a lot of time - so some comments suffered so I could get round to them all. Not that anyone gives a hoot about my opinion, but feel free to PM me if anyone wants further notes - I can get round to it at some point.
Random musings;
- Quality was generally high, can't hazard a guess as who will come out with "writers choice" - Criteria. IMO, A lot of you are far too accommodating with marking entries as criteria met (based on comments). Seems unfair on those entries who actually bothered to incorporate the criteria. - Newbies! this is for you - don't be afraid to leave your thoughts. You don't have to be a competent writer to be able to say what you liked/disliked about a story. - Newbies! this is also for you. It can be hard to read comments on your own script subjectively. Stalk the reviewers who have left you comments, check out the comments they leave on other entries (and read the entry itself) - gives you a good overview of the reviewer, which ones whose opinion you value more (Also pay attention to trends, there usually isn't smoke without fire) - Too many combinations of Snow/Storm/Shovel - a snowstorm, ticking two boxes at once, come on guys lol - You guys put my imagination to shame! seriously, where do you lot come up with this stuff? - Thanks for not writing 33 horrors.
As always, thanks to Don and Rene for hosting - It's been a blast. Once again you have all knocked me down a peg with the quality of your work - One day I'll be up there with ya
Nice post. Good thoughts there. I like to see a challenge one day that rather than Y/N on requirements - you gave a 1-5 on the degree to which the requirements played a role in the story. That's just me though.
Nice post. Good thoughts there. I like to see a challenge one day that rather than Y/N on requirements - you gave a 1-5 on the degree to which the requirements played a role in the story. That's just me though.
Yeah, I would prefer that to the Y/N - But I have already got to keep track of so many 1-5's and a 1-10 lol
As for the deleted posts, I wasn't online to catch what happened and it's not the way I would have handled it, but that thread is getting really carried away. Take it up in a dedicated thread if you really want the discussion.
I would have handled it exactly how it was handled. What you saw was the torture porn debate and how that blew up the thread and a polite request from Libby to move it to a different thread. ALL of the comments have been retained in the thread related to the review of the script and the torture porn debate.
What you probably didn't see was a subsequent altogether different blow-up after Libby's request that started with one peep attacking the quality of another peeps comments on scripts in general thus blowing up the thread again on an entirely unrelated topic. Those comments were deleted. The action was entirely appropriate IMO.
I would have handled it exactly how it was handled. What you saw was the torture porn debate and how that blew up the thread and a polite request from Libby to move it to a different thread. ALL of the comments have been retained in the thread related to the review of the script and the torture porn debate.
What you probably didn't see was a subsequent altogether different blow-up after Libby's request that started with one peep attacking the quality of another peeps comments on scripts in general thus blowing up the thread again on an entirely unrelated topic. Those comments were deleted. The action was entirely appropriate IMO.
There was...and still is, as far as I know, a post (review) in which someone simply said, (and this is not a quote) the "writer" should take a sledgehammer to this script.
This comment brought about other comments, and IMO, were perfectly fine, but deleted.
This same someone posted on a different entry that it was well written. I responded that it was not well written...as it's 100% obvious the script was far from well written, which was deleted.
Of course each and all can decide what to listen to, there's nothing wrong with a little friendly disagreeing on the threads. Go back in history and you'll see all sorts of these little exchanges - they're quite entertaining, actually, as are most back and forths.
It's obviously not like that anymore, and I for one miss those days very much. SS has lost lots of peeps who partook in these debates, and without such debates, it's quite dull, to be honest.
No big deal. I'll back off and retreat to my island.
There was...and still is, as far as I know, a post (review) in which someone simply said, (and this is not a quote) the "writer" should take a sledgehammer to this script.
This comment brought about other comments, and IMO, were perfectly fine, but deleted.
This same someone posted on a different entry that it was well written. I responded that it was not well written...as it's 100% obvious the script was far from well written, which was deleted.
Of course each and all can decide what to listen to, there's nothing wrong with a little friendly disagreeing on the threads. Go back in history and you'll see all sorts of these little exchanges - they're quite entertaining, actually, as are most back and forths.
It's obviously not like that anymore, and I for one miss those days very much. SS has lost lots of peeps who partook in these debates, and without such debates, it's quite dull, to be honest.
No big deal. I'll back off and retreat to my island.
Yes - that was a comment from SPQR regarding the script that was the subject of the thread. There is where the thread once again went off the rails with comments that had zero to do with the subject script. I would have done what Libby did (oops - I'm just assuming it was her - maybe someone else).
I can't comment on the second incident (the well written exchange) as I'm not familiar with it. On face value - and again without having seen it - a contrary comment - not well written - would have been fine by me.
Like you, I love the debates and exchanges here. They always yield the most interest. That being said, I don't like them when they are hijacking a thread dedicated to something else - in this case - a script. If I am the writer of Mayhem (I'm not) I would be pissed that a thread that is purportedly dedicated to a review of my script is being convoluted to discuss anything but - the last example being whether we believe a certain posters comments in general are up to snuff.
The point being - having friendly disagreements on the threads is fine - I think even encouraged. And yes - they are quite entertaining. But monitoring a thread for it's intended purpose doesn't derail that - just derails that on that thread. And that is what the moderators are for. And c'mon - how often does it ever happen? Just send a PM to whoever you think deleted you and ask for an explanation.
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