Kev and Dena sittin' in a tree...K-I-S-S-I-N-G...or maybe their just both sulking in a tree?

I don't know, but I'm sure they're both commenting about me without using my name.

Oh well, what's done is done, and this isn't really any different than any other OWC, if you ask me.  No one is remotely required or expected to read every entry, but yet I attempt to every single OWC.

I will not subject myself to something that I know I'm not going to remotely enjoy, though, and that's my prerogitive, right?

Who else has at least attempted to read every script?  Who else has commented on every script?

You guys know I'm going to tell it straight up and if you dissagree with my feedback, that's completely cool, as I disagree 180 degrees with some of the feedback I see on here, on pretty much every script.  That's the way it goes, peeps - Different strokes, different folks.

Anyone who wants to PM me and ask detailed questions on my feedback on their scripts, please do so.

Quoted from KevinLenihan Keep in mind, and I'm not rekindling anything, but someone new who submits and reads "couldn't get past page one" in his early reviews of his script is not going to bother reading other scripts. That person is basically gone.

And the wannbe autuers are better off staying gone...

Quoted from KevinLenihan Shawn, I'm just explaining the numbers, that's all.

Okay, but you don't think that those numbers don't include people who are also reading despite what was said about their script?

I don't see where someone would choose not to post on others works based solely on the fact they have recieved negitive reviews.

In fact, if that were true, don't you supose there would be a drop off in new member reviews AFTER a negitive review?

If that were the case, we would see a host of new members with only e few post and then...nothing.

You can explain the numbers how you see it, but the fact still remains that a limited numer are posting despite what's being said about their work.

And the majority is POSTING NOTHING whether their script is getting good reviews or not.

Shawn.....><

Let's look at the real numbers...

The least reviewed script(s) have 11 reviews.  The most review script has 29 posts...and that one has multiple posts by the same person, so that's inflated.

Bottom line is that peeps aren't reading much, IMO.  I think I have some 60 posts on the 49 entries.

Step up, peeps!!!!  Read and comment!!!

Why would we be sulking, Jeff? Not sure you know what you think you know. You might be surprised at the reveal, and you'll realize your insinuations were wrong.

I said I didn't want to rekindle the debate on the reviews. That debate is old. I'm just talking about why people don't review. And it's obviously several reasons. Some people are selfish, but many just don't feel comfortable. That was how we met Dena...at an OWC 2 years ago. She was lurking on the sidelines afraid to comment. She felt she had not been reading scripts long enough. We engaged her and she starting contributing, became a good writer.

Kev, maybe "sulking" was a bad choice of words, but there's no excuse for peeps not reading and commenting, and I do not agree with you saying that because they received por feedback, they got pissed and left.

Charlie is a perfect example - I don't know what he wrote, but I bet it wasn't great, and I know that he's aware of that and wants to learn and wants to get better.  That's what it's all about.

I agree about our friend, Dena, but she seems to be pissed off at me and not responding to me and now alluding her ill will to my reviews.

I may be very surprised at the reveal and I hope you were behind one of the better scriptsa nd maybe you threw everyone off by being negative on your own script...who knows.  I don't care, really, as I don't play favorites.

What's good is god in my book and it doesn't matter who wrote the best script or the worst script.

Quoted from Dreamscale What's good is god in my book and it doesn't matter who wrote the best script or the worst script.

Always good to have God on your side.  

Honestly, there is no best and worst script for me, and I am stoked that Don is not asking us to pick one. I have 11 'considers' and 0 recommends.

My reviews were entirely intended to help the writer improve their story. In some cases, the writer did some really good things despite some imperfect writing. I think they deserved to hear that. In other cases, the writing was brilliant but the story did not do much for me. These were obviously veteran writers who could care less about a contest, they just want to learn. And I tried to tell them how their story didn't quite work for me. I hope my feedback, along with others, can help the make stronger stories in the future.

It's not more complicated than that.

As for my script, Dena and I co-wrote two(with the ok of the boss; 2 writers, 2 total scripts was within the rules). One did not get much positive reception, the other got almost all positive reception. So we have nothing to sulk about, and after the reveal, it will be obvious that we were not looking for votes. Just honest comments on the stories.

Am I to understand you wrote a negative review of your own script Jeff?

I like the new voting system It's quite similar to the one at MP. In fact, if Don asked nicely, I bet Chris would give Don the codes for the voting system there, which I think is the best one and most fair I've seen.    

LC - HA!!  Funny.  As I've said and even told Don numerous times, for some reason, my spellchecker isn't working on the forum and that's why my posts looks so "God" Awful.

I tend to make the same mistakes over and over, like typing "teh" instead of "the", and "god" instead of "good".  ARGH!!!  I hate it and wish my damn spellshcecker would return!!

I'm also not receiving an E-Mail when a new post hits on a thread I've commented on, so it's tough to keep up for me, lately.

Kev, again, bro...I don't want to be an ass and I don't want to argue with you or anyone.  I'm glad to hear you and Dena cowrite a couple scripts.  I don't know which 2 those were but I hope I didn't trash either.

And, no, I did not trash my own script.

I had 3 "recommends", and 8 "considers".  The rest were al passes and as I said earlier, I did attempt to read each and every script.

Quoted from Dreamscale Charlie is a perfect example - I don't know what he wrote, but I bet it wasn't great, and I know that he's aware of that and wants to learn and wants to get better.  That's what it's all about.

Thank you for the mention, I appreciate that. I was going to comment this after seeing Kevin's post but you did it for me.

But to be fair, I was EXPECTING my script to get shit on, since I don't know much about screenwriting and my effort and idea were very lazy. Normally I'm decent at coming up with ideas and characters and just bad at writing them, but this time I was bad at both. But anyways, I am embarrassed by what I submitted, but still glad I submitted. Because there was still tons of mistakes I would have made regardless of these excuses. Also take into account that I'm still pretty young and haven't had as much life experience which means my humor and characters will be a lot different.

Sorry for not dropping more reviews. I am planning on getting at least 3-5 in tomorrow and some more on Sunday.

I am a little bit frustrated, because I was looking forward to showing that I was willing to review scripts and for the FIRST OWC I'm around for, it's a record amount of scripts submitted. I was expecting more like 20.

And now it looks like I'm not willing to pull my weight since it seems like I'm barely reviewing relative to the amount of scripts submitted.

Unfortunately, I only got to read seven scripts on my vacation (I just got back a few hours ago). Out of those I have three considers, which is kind of awesome!

I'd be more than happy to read and review others after the voting is done if anyone wants more feedback than what they've already gotten. Just in case I don't catch a response here on the thread, feel free to drop me a private message.

Quoted from Dreamscale ...Who else has at least attempted to read every script?  Who else has commented on every script?

That's a pretty impressive feat! I may try that next time even if I don't enter myself

Ray will blow you all away.  

JD, I'm seriously impressed you read any, becuase if I was on vacation in old Mexico, I wouldn't give 2, 3, or 4 shits about this OWC!  Good job.

But really...3 recommends in 7 reads?  Hmmm...