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I haven't read the article yet. We had a fire at work today. Came close to burning down the building!!!! Anyway, I think Carson isn't a real fan of slasher type scripts, but I could be wrong. I check his blog every day, but only read if I find it interesting. I agree with Disqus though. That's why I can't comment on anything there anymore. Why don't you give us your input here?
It would be more satisfying to actually comment on the comments made by Script Shadow members, addressing their questions directly. Dave let me know it was up on Script Shadow and, because my fucking comments are taking 8 hours to post, he put up the link for me for those who wanted to read the script. Now there's some jackass troll who thinks me, Dave and Gary Rowlands are the same person but using different accounts to kiss my script's ass. It's REALLY fucking pissing me off that I can't comment.
Oh, I see. Yeah, that sucks. I would chime in and tell them you're a real person, but like I said, Disqus won't let me.
I've tried like a million times, and it keeps putting my comments on pending. Fuck Script Shadow lol, shouldn't be that hard. Sucks I can't comment on my own script that was mentioned in this article without my knowledge.
Giving this a bump because it seems to be a topic of discussion on Script Shadow. For some reason, I'm unable to say my peace about my own script on the message board, it only let me post like 2 comments while the rest have been pending for about 4 hours now.
I do disagree with Carson, obviously, but he does have a point about the script going off into slasher territory after page 25. For some reason, I have a feeling that if he saw a movie version, he'd change his mind -- he seemed to enjoy similar films like "You're Next" and "Becky" which had pretty similar tones and pacing. But I could be wrong. Kinda sucks I can't really comment on anything on Script Shadow's sight (Disquis fucking sucks).
The direction he suggested that it stay at - as a character piece e.g. abused woman kills husband? It's much more than that type of story.
Finally, have a plan for your second act. This is where most scripts fall apart because it’s the moment where the writer has to actually write the story. The first act is just setting up the concept you came up with. But the second act is where we need to feel like there’s a plan in place. We need to feel like the characters have goals or a clear direction.
When I first read Honey Mustard the killing scene was shocking and I thought WTH, but then you need to read the rest to have the pieces of the puzzle all fit together.
Dave said this:
There are a lot of plot premises that folks are making suggestions on that really are not relevant (i.e., things didn't happen that way). I don't want to go into details because it would spoil some twists.
Exactly. People should not just blindly agree and comment if they haven't read the entire script, which most of them hadn't prior to commenting.
Dave and Gary (gazrow) gave it a nice thumbs up and then got accused of being Michael himself, by some eejit.
Oh well, what's that saying:
There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.
Oscar Wilde
Of course getting the facts right is always good too.
P.S. Why can't you comment further? Ah, the old pending trick.
The direction he suggested that it stay at - as a character piece e.g. abused woman kills husband? It's much more than that type of story.
Finally, have a plan for your second act. This is where most scripts fall apart because it’s the moment where the writer has to actually write the story. The first act is just setting up the concept you came up with. But the second act is where we need to feel like there’s a plan in place. We need to feel like the characters have goals or a clear direction.
When I first read Honey Mustard the killing scene was shocking and I thought WTH, but then you need to read the rest to have the pieces of the puzzle all fit together.
Dave said this:
There are a lot of plot premises that folks are making suggestions on that really are not relevant (i.e., things didn't happen that way). I don't want to go into details because it would spoil some twists.
Exactly. People should not just blindly agree and comment if they haven't read the entire script, which most of them hadn't prior to commenting.
Dave and Gary (gazrow) gave it a nice thumbs up and then got accused of being Michael himself, by some eejit.
Oh well, what's that saying:
There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.
Oscar Wilde
Of course getting the facts right is always good too.
P.S. Why can't you comment further?
I have no idea why I can't comment, every one of my comments outside of maybe 2, have been pending with the moderator for like 5 hours now and it's extremely irritating. Especially when my script is being talked about without me being informed prior to the article posting. Now, I don't mind that the article mentions my script, but it's fucking infuriating that I'm unable to comment on other people's comments and address any questions they have. It's EXTREMELY irritating.
Oh, I'd be spitting chips. I feel for you. They're all just wrong anyway.
Most of the comments on the board are pretty fair, considering none of them read the script for themselves. If anything, they're just asking questions... which I'm trying to answer.
And then I can't respond to that fucking troll on there, either... I'm ready to throw my computer lol.
"These characters are too well-written for a genre movie" is not a good critique.
Nor is "the big thing that happens in the script shouldn't be what happens."
...although I guess it's even sillier than that. He's saying, "this script shouldn't be the genre that it is." Haha.
Yeah, I guess it just didn't go into the direction that he wanted it to go in or expected it to go in. Which, I dunno, to me, would make it predictable... which he's against. Carson does contradict himself often. But, regardless, he just wasn't a fan of the script. So far, the readers on the discussion board seem to enjoy it to a degree -- which is surprising because of how harsh the boards have been to me in the past (with Morphine, 8 years ago, and Corpse Flower, 5 years ago).
Who is Carson and why do people care what he says?
Had a quick look at the site and I can�t see your script there, so are people commenting on a script they have never read and basing their opinion purely of the article itself?
Genuine questions, I�ve never been on scriptshadow so don�t know what it�s about
Who is Carson and why do people care what he says?
Had a quick look at the site and I can�t see your script there, so are people commenting on a script they have never read and basing their opinion purely of the article itself?
Genuine questions, I�ve never been on scriptshadow so don�t know what it�s about
It's a pretty decent site, IMO. There is a lot of engagement because typically during the week there are 4 to 5 screenwriting topics posted (everything from script reviews to dos and don'ts of writing). So, it is pretty interactive.
Some things Carson states are brilliant, some okay, and some silly. But there are a lot of gems of good advice there and a lot of script reviews.
Some people love him. Some hate him. To me - he hosts a free site for amateur writers to discuss scripts - I think that is a good thing.
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