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Dreamscale
Posted: June 13th, 2019, 11:40pm Report to Moderator
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No, it's fine, I'm not judging or anything. I was just curious what you actually meant. Is the score differential too high or too low, less than what you thought, something like that?


It's WAY TOO LOW!!!

From 1st to 20th, we should have a differential of at least 3.0...probably more, based on peeps giving 5 scores in multiple categories, and 1 entrant losing 50% of his scores for not voting.

It's crazy to me, but you guys all think I'm crazy, period...so...it's probably  absolutely perfect.

Hey, it's like I've said over and over...the scoring system is seriously flawed, especially if that's the overall differential after 1 round of voting

Anyone else care to chime in?
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From 1st to 20th, we should have a differential of at least 3.0...probably more, based on peeps giving 5 scores in multiple categories, and 1 entrant losing 50% of his scores for not voting.

Hey, it's like I've said over and over...the scoring system is seriously flawed, especially if that's the overall differential after 1 round of voting


Part of the problem was how many scripts had points knocked off in the Meets Criteria category. No script had less than 3 Did Not Meet Criteria hits. That comes down on me for creating an all-or-nothing category like that. If I do this again, I'll go with a 1-5 for that one, too, to avoid this kind of problem. Live and learn, what can I say?


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Quoted from Mr. Blonde


Part of the problem was how many scripts had points knocked off in the Meets Criteria category. No script had less than 3 Did Not Meet Criteria hits. That comes down on me for creating an all-or-nothing category like that. If I do this again, I'll go with a 1-5 for that one, too, to avoid this kind of problem. Live and learn, what can I say?


I'm sure each one will still have no less than 3 Did not meet Criteria hits. We'll just put 1 which means did not meet criteria. And the overall score would be lower for the Criteria for each script btw.
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1 entrant losing 50% of his scores for not voting.


What? I mean it wasn't me or anything but do we lose 50% of the scores for our own entry for not voting? I thought there was not penalty for non-voters.

Which is a good punishment. It's just not the way I remember it.
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What? I mean it wasn't me or anything but do we lose 50% of the scores for our own entry for not voting? I thought there was not penalty for non-voters.

Which is a good punishment. It's just not the way I remember it.
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There isn't. There are two penalties. 1. Not entering a script drops your overall score by 1 grade point. 2. Not voting for more than half the scripts results in your votes not counting for that round.


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Quoted from Mr. Blonde


The combined score differential is 1.72. There are several different writers separated by .01 from others.


So that means it should be a really close race all the way to the end for all entrants? I don’t think I understand the significance. Maths isn’t a strong point.


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So that means it should be a really close race all the way to the end for all entrants? I don’t think I understand the significance. Maths isn’t a strong point.


We get that, Warren, that math and a large number of things aren't your strong point, but ...do the math, brother.  It's very simple math.  I think even you can do it.

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What you're saying is that there are three people who disqualified Bobbelution and Melt (the two that tied for top criteria)...both of which inarguably met the criteria...and at least four people said Bobble ageddon wasn't a comedy sci fi? Fucking hell!

I mean the way it was set up did sort of force you to disqualify some to give credit to those who nailed the fusion, but there's subjective opinion and then there's flat out wrong.
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What you're saying is that there are three people who disqualified Bobbelution and Melt (the two that tied for top criteria)...both of which inarguably met the criteria...and at least four people said Bobble ageddon wasn't a comedy sci fi? Fucking hell!

I mean the way it was set up did sort of force you to disqualify some to give credit to those who nailed the fusion, but there's subjective opinion and then there's flat out wrong.


Yep!!!  Exactly!

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No script had less than 3 Did Not Meet Criteria hits.



I find that incredible. Even with the 'Yes, No' thing, I still find it hard to believe that not a single script met the criteria for everybody.
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Any scoring system that lets me wiggle to the top is aces in my book  


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Any scoring system that lets me wiggle to the top is aces in my book  


You should be an extra 4 clear, at least...so at least the rest of us are still in contention.
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You should be an extra 4 clear, at least...so at least the rest of us are still in contention.


From the sounds of it, we will all be in contention right up until the last round. My round 2 entry is looking iffy anyway. I'm gonna screenshot the rankings so when I come tumbling down them I can look back with fond memories lol

Personally, if it was me I would just use a simple ranking system (IE each reviewer has to list the entries from best to worst) and then use a ranking points system similar to F1.

This way the entries are being judged against each other, it will help (but not eliminate) tactical voting as each reviewer HAS to give top marks to someone


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That scoring system sounds like a great idea... I just don't know how the F1 ranking system works regarding the score differentiation. Scoring from 15 down to 1 (if 15 entries) would look like a mountain to climb if coming in last. Coming last twice would see your script on 2 and the top script potentially on 30.
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Sorry I�m late to this party   Am in my hometown now!

So my script Bobbleution was classed as zero criteria by 3?  It was action/comedy!  How the hell? Fair enough if peeps didn�t like it but it was one of the few that did meet the criteria  lol

Anyway all good

So where can I vote for the Round 2 scripts? I deleted Dons email by mistake lol



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