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Okay... can I just say, I’ve never lived in a home where the front door isn’t in the living room. I guess it’s a Midwest thing? In my current house you can touch the front door and the sofa at the same time without even stretching. (Whew, that’s been bugging me all week.)
Anyway, thanks for all the great notes on Remote Control.
It’s always fascinating to see the different ways others see your script.
Front doors are commonly in the Living Room. You do not need a separate header for that nor add a foyer, lobby or whatever. It was perfectly clear as you had it.
The guidance you got on mini-slugs was incorrect as well. You are allowed to have them even though time may have passed. i.e., they can be used even though the action is not continuous. This from Trottier (a pretty good source).
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You do not need a new master scene heading for a change in time, but you will for a change in camera location from interior to exterior or vice versa.
The only time you probably should not use them for a change in time is when that time has gone from DAY to NIGHT or vice versa. The reason obvious there - the time in the master scene heading would no longer be relevant to the mini-slug.
One more thing that's bothering me. I used Trelby for the first time and it automatically quadruple spaced in between scenes.
I got called out for incorrect spacing by folks who are double spacing in between scenes. It's THREE spaces in between. Not two.
Unfortunately, I did not realize my spacing was off until I uploaded. SMH. Oops
I also use Trelby and have been called out on the spacing (always by the same person) but I'm a slave to the product. There's so much about it I like that we'll just have to get over it. Besides, it's free!
Front doors are commonly in the Living Room. You do not need a separate header for that nor add a foyer, lobby or whatever. It was perfectly clear as you had it.
Front doors are not commonly in a living room. WTF? Front doors usually open up to some sort of foyer, front hall.
If you're talking about an apartment or tiny little house, sure, it can open up into any room.
The guidance you got on mini-slugs was incorrect as well. You are allowed to have them even though time may have passed. i.e., they can be used even though the action is not continuous. This from Trottier (a pretty good source).
"allowed to" - Ha! Really? That's funny. Sounds like a rule thing.
If time has passed and you use a Mini Slug, you're opening yourself up to trouble, because any time that time passes, in which we are not privy to what has happened in that passed time, it's unclear...as in everything is unclear.
Keep in mind, scripts are not visual...we can't see clues that we could in a filmed version. This is why Slugs are so important to set each scene.
If you have a scene in a bedroom where a character is putting clothes on and you immediately go to a Mini Slug of Kitchen and that same character is nude and having sex with a goat, something is obviously off, as there is no connection whatsoever.
The only time you probably should not use them for a change in time is when that time has gone from DAY to NIGHT or vice versa. The reason obvious there - the time in the master scene heading would no longer be relevant to the mini-slug.
I think it's fair to say that front doors commonly open up into living rooms just as it is to say they open into hallways. Both are common. One may be more common than the other, but that is by the by.
Hold off on the reveals, guys. It won't be much longer now.
Sorry.
I thought we were given the green light! My bad.
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I also use Trelby and have been called out on the spacing (always by the same person) but I'm a slave to the product. There's so much about it I like that we'll just have to get over it. Besides, it's free!
Ctrl Enter will auto space it for you. Three spaces. I googled it
Front doors are not commonly in a living room. WTF? Front doors usually open up to some sort of foyer, front hall.
If you're talking about an apartment or tiny little house, sure, it can open up into any room.
"allowed to" - Ha! Really? That's funny. Sounds like a rule thing.
If time has passed and you use a Mini Slug, you're opening yourself up to trouble, because any time that time passes, in which we are not privy to what has happened in that passed time, it's unclear...as in everything is unclear.
Keep in mind, scripts are not visual...we can't see clues that we could in a filmed version. This is why Slugs are so important to set each scene.
If you have a scene in a bedroom where a character is putting clothes on and you immediately go to a Mini Slug of Kitchen and that same character is nude and having sex with a goat, something is obviously off, as there is no connection whatsoever.
Oh boy...
How can you be wrong so often?
Front Doors
Very common to open into Living Rooms especially in the mid to north east sections of the country. I've lived in three of them. I'll add this from Quora:
In the US many homes have two doors, one is the front door, where guests come in, the other is either a backdoor, or a door that leads directly into the garage. In either case, the second door is used mostly by the actual occupants and commonly enters into a mud room or similar space for storing coats and shoes. The front door, because it is for guests, tends to enter either into a living room or into a foyer space which is connected to several common rooms of the house (living room, dining room, kitchen).
So for shits and giggles - let's say 30% of houses have the front door open into the Living Room. Fuck - let's drop it to 5% just to make the point. Guess what - 100% of the front doors in the Remote Control script opened up into the Living Room because that is how the writer fucking wrote it. If the writer wanted a Foyer or a Hallway he would have added it one. Most importantly - IT IS NOT AN ERROR FOR HIM NOT TO.
MINI-SLUGS
1) "Allowed to" as in THERE IS NO RULE AGAINST IT. 2) Think I'll go with Trottier over you. 3) Your reasoning is inane. i.e.,
If time has passed and you use a Mini Slug, you're opening yourself up to trouble, because any time that time passes, in which we are not privy to what has happened in that passed time, it's unclear...as in everything is unclear.
This may the most convoluted thing I've read on the subject.
We must be privy to everything that happened in between min-slugs or it's unclear???
Dude - are we privy to everything that happens between Full Scene Headings ????? No!!
INT. DINER - DAY
Dave at a table.
INT. CAR - NIGHT
Dave at the wheel.
OMG - what happened in between the Diner and the Car. I'm not privy to that data - me head is spinning with confusion. Sarcastic way of saying - don't apply a made up standard to mini-slugs that you wouldn't require of full ones.
4) The specific script was clear.
I don't think anyone was confused by the space-time continuum by the use of mini-slugs in the script. No one was - KITCHEN - OMG! how the fok did we get here???? It was as clear as good be.
Finally - if for some reason the writer thought the passage of time was unclear (which in this case it was clearly not) - they merely can modify the mini-slug to something like:
I think it's fair to say that front doors commonly open up into living rooms just as it is to say they open into hallways. Both are common. One may be more common than the other, but that is by the by.
Yes - Jeff somehow thinks it's if as the front door opened into the bathroom.
What did I say and where and what's the fucking big deal?
I'm not sure what we're even talking about here, but as for Mini Slugs, the assumption for omitting a time element is because they are continuous scenes, or happening at the same time.
Maybe we should just omit all time elements unless we change from day to night. Yeah...let's go with that! No more time elements needed once the time is set.