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Andrew
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Please be specific - which argument am I misrepresenting? I've seen tons of his videos and posts and believed I cited him him verbatim in this case. I'd be interested in knowing where you think I got him wrong.

In terms of him selling junk...

Junk is your term - but okay. I do think much like others (let's say Shapiro on the right and Franken on the left) they stake out extreme positions in order to generate interest and sell stuff. Moderation doesn't sell. And...

For clarification - I never said I believed that all the views accepted and proposed by the left media are genuinely held. I didn't disagree that they diminish out of hand right-wing views,  pundits and positions. Instead, what I argued was that is exactly also what the righ-wing media does to left-wing views,  pundits, and positions.



The whole position. Peterson just doesnít hold the view youíre saying he does.


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Andrew
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The next time you see the words... "good point, hadn't thought of it that way" on the internet will be the first time they've ever been written.

It's really why it makes almost zero sense to engage in any political threads. I constantly remind myself of this fact... and yet, I STILL sometimes can't help myself.


Political debate is good, in my view. I think this one is just fine. There will be some minor frustrations, but thatís natural when discussing meaningful issues where thereís difference.

Doesnít impact how I see Dave at all. And we already agree we have broadly similar views. Just a few points here and there of difference. Over a beer it would be easier to settle, as any text often gets difficult to confirm tone at times.


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To be fair, I said you were being disagreeable, which is different than saying you are disagreeable.

One is temporary, the other is permanent.


So....

If you tell me I am being stupid - that would be okay?

If you tell me I am stupid - that is not.

Conversely - if I said ...

You're being wrong....

rather than --

You're wrong

We'd be copesetic????

If so, I got to try this out on the Wife.

WIFE
Could you please take out the trash?

DAVE
You're being overbearing!

WIFE
Say what, dude?

DAVE
I meant that ... um, temporarily you are overbearing - like in the moment.
It's not your permanent state.

WIFE
Uh-huh....

DAVE
We good .... right?

WIFE
You'll be temporarily sleeping on the couch.

Andrew - if this results in my divorce - it's on you.



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Andrew
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So....

If you tell me I am being stupid - that would be okay?

If you tell me I am stupid - that is not.

Conversely - if I said ...

You're being wrong....

rather than --

You're wrong

We'd be copesetic????

If so, I got to try this out on the Wife.

WIFE
Could you please take out the trash?

DAVE
You're being overbearing!

WIFE
Say what, dude?

DAVE
I meant that ... um, temporarily you are overbearing - like in the moment.
It's not your permanent state.

WIFE
Uh-huh....

DAVE
We good .... right?

WIFE
You'll be temporarily sleeping on the couch.

Andrew - if this results in my divorce - it's on you.



Haha!


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Love it, Dave.  

I've had the 'you're stupid' v 'what you did/said was stupid' debate with significant others many a time.

^ What? You think I'm stupid?


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Robert Timsah
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Anyone wanna discuss directed energy weapons and how they were used to destroy the World Trade Center complex on 9/11?






lol


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Quoted from Andrew


The whole position. Peterson just doesnít hold the view youíre saying he does.


I agree to disagree

He holds precisely the specific view I articulated.


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Quoted from LC
Love it, Dave.  

I've had the 'you're stupid' v 'what you did/said was stupid' debate with significant others many a time.

^ What? You think I'm stupid?




My Scripts can all be seen here:

http://dlambertson.wix.com/scripts
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Just to clear the air, I like everyone here, regardless of whatever political beliefs they hold. So far this has been a fairly civil discussion, considering it's an online message board. lol


WITCH HUNT - horror, 77 pgs

THE 1997 TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE - horror, 82 pgs

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Quoted from Robert Timsah
Anyone wanna discuss directed energy weapons and how they were used to destroy the World Trade Center complex on 9/11?



I'm game. Lol


WITCH HUNT - horror, 77 pgs

THE 1997 TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE - horror, 82 pgs

HERE COMES THE BOGEYMAN - horror, 24 pgs
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I'm game. Lol


I don't have the energy, directed or otherwise!  


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Quoted from Robert Timsah
I don't have the energy, directed or otherwise!  

Good thinking.



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I agree to disagree

He holds precisely the specific view I articulated.


Can you provide proof?

Because Iíve never seen anything at all to support your assertion. You are being very clear you think youíre right, so keen to know whatís propping that belief up.

EDIT: Just to be clear, this is what the claim is.


Quoted from eldave1


Peterson would have you believe that the gap is primarily explained by this:

" womenís tendency for neuroticism Ė their likelihood to experience stress, depression and unpredictability Ė and their high level of agreeableness, to be cooperative and compassionate.




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Let's just rename the thread "These videos DESTROY leftists with FACTS and LOGIC" and be done with it...


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Let's just rename the thread "These videos DESTROY leftists with FACTS and LOGIC" and be done with it...


Surely when people make bold claims about a society being a patriarchal white supremacy, itís fair game to hold the claims to account?

Thatís what the videos Iíve shared seek to do.

Itís easy to try and frame it as part of the political right / left axis to dismiss the criticism, but surely you agree bold claims require clear evidence?


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