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Zack
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To be fair, I've addressed this previously. This doesn't tell us anything new. It looks like a quick Google!

There was a a mindset that was woke, but it was an empty vacuum, with no real body of ideas applicable to the challenges. This was when woke became woke as we understand it today. Not extreme wokeism, but wokeism. This body of ideas is distinct from a mindset of being alert to injustice as a means of navigating life.

The body of ideas isn't about being alert to injustice; it's about radially reforming society with a fig leaf of being about 'social justice'.

This is just language back and forth. Wokeism, the applied set of ideas, and wokeism the mindset are not the same thing. Yes, they share the label, and yes, you can argue extremism of a hard-to-pin down term, but it's all wasted energy.

What matters of a body of ideas dividing people. Label it what you want, but I'll be calling it wokeism.


Nailed it. Well said.


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To take this really off-topic:

Dave, loving the new profile pic!  Always glad to see what our community looks like in real life!

We return you to our regular programming.


An utterly mediocre writer who somehow still falls bass ackwards into getting some of his scripts produced.
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Zack
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To take this really off-topic:

Dave, loving the new profile pic!  Always glad to see what our community looks like in real life!

We return you to our regular programming.


Agreed! Dave, you look surprisingly like your old avatar. lol  


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The greatest threatening face is climate change, y'all. Haha


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To be fair, I've addressed this previously. This doesn't tell us anything new. It looks like a quick Google!

There was a a mindset that was woke, but it was an empty vacuum, with no real body of ideas applicable to the challenges. This was when woke became woke as we understand it today. Not extreme wokeism, but wokeism. This body of ideas is distinct from a mindset of being alert to injustice as a means of navigating life.

The body of ideas isn't about being alert to injustice; it's about radially reforming society with a fig leaf of being about 'social justice'.

This is just language back and forth. Wokeism, the applied set of ideas, and wokeism the mindset are not the same thing. Yes, they share the label, and yes, you can argue extremism of a hard-to-pin down term, but it's all wasted energy.

What matters of a body of ideas dividing people. Label it what you want, but I'll be calling it wokeism.


Okay - I'll label it extreme wokeism.  


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To take this really off-topic:

Dave, loving the new profile pic!  Always glad to see what our community looks like in real life!

We return you to our regular programming.


Thanks, mate - I just figured the annoying avatar was stale-dated by now.


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Agreed! Dave, you look surprisingly like your old avatar. lol  


Actually - the old avatar was me - in cartoon form


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Actually - the old avatar was me - in cartoon form


I honestly thought your old avatar was just Edgar Allan Poe! Lol


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To be fair, you'll be Selleck to me now, Dave, with that beautiful manscaped 'tache!

Where were you? The background looks good.


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To be fair, you'll be Selleck to me now, Dave, with that beautiful manscaped 'tache!

Where were you? The background looks good.


I was at my favorite place on the planet - Lake Tahoe.  It is the perfect combination of country and city. You can go hiking in pine tree forests overlooking a gorgeous lake during the day and have a five-star dinner and play craps at night.

We go once or twice a year - either early spring or early fall/beginning winter - just before enough snow for skiing - but enough for scenery. There is no one there during the week and you have the town to yourself.


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ah, a craps man!  A man after my own heart!  My best night of winnings ever on a craps table came at the Harrah's Lake Tahoe.   And I don't think I've ever been in water as cold as Lake Tahoe. Love skiing there in winter and hanging out there in the summer.  beautiful place.


An utterly mediocre writer who somehow still falls bass ackwards into getting some of his scripts produced.
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ah, a craps man!  A man after my own heart!  My best night of winnings ever on a craps table came at the Harrah's Lake Tahoe.   And I don't think I've ever been in water as cold as Lake Tahoe. Love skiing there in winter and hanging out there in the summer.  beautiful place.


Yeah - one of the best casino games - there is normally a real team spirit. AND- that water is cold!


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Not sure if I should bring this up as this stuff is like kerosene, but have scriptwriting comps gone super woke?

Seems the more I look through the lists of recent winners the more I find it hard to believe that is was just down to their scripts and not their gender/ethnicity.

First place I noticed it was on the BBC’s Writer’s Room where they list (and picture) their previous winners, and tbh it wasn’t that surprising as the BBC does seem preoccupied with pushing certain narratives over the last few years or so but I was a bit surprised to see what looks like the same thing going on with random screenwriting comps.

Please tell me I’m just being a conspiracy nut!
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Not sure if I should bring this up as this stuff is like kerosene, but have scriptwriting comps gone super woke?

Seems the more I look through the lists of recent winners the more I find it hard to believe that is was just down to their scripts and not their gender/ethnicity.

First place I noticed it was on the BBC’s Writer’s Room where they list (and picture) their previous winners, and tbh it wasn’t that surprising as the BBC does seem preoccupied with pushing certain narratives over the last few years or so but I was a bit surprised to see what looks like the same thing going on with random screenwriting comps.

Please tell me I’m just being a conspiracy nut!


I think the answer is - it depends.

In the case of the BBC Writer's Room - yeah, no doubt. But it's in their mission statement:

BBC Writersroom is a cross-platform department which seeks out and develops new writing talent, with a strong emphasis on diversity and regionality, while also championing more experienced writers

And in their results. For example, they just announced those who were awarded slots in their writers development program - LONDON VOICES.. Here's the breakdown of the 16 winners.

Black  = 7
Asian = 4
White = 3
Arab =  1
Latino = 1

9 were females. 7 were males.

That is certainly not representative of the demographics.  So, yeah - I think they had a targeted group. I don't know if that means they are woke or are just trying to do outreach - but certainly, they were not looking for white males.

Nicholls certainly seems to favor stories about oppression - but they did way before the term woke was ever in vogue.

I don't think most the contests give a shit one way or another. That being said, I am sure that readers have their own individual filters.

Black =


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