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Hi guys. Just got an email from this site's head of product development. He'd read my script Headlong, and gave me info about Circalit. It's a free service to post scripts that may be looked at by industry people. Anyone heard of it? Thoughts/
I also got an email from the development head. I've only browsed the site so far. It seems like it's still in the premature stages of development. There's no forums and only thirty-six scripts total. I think time will tell how much of a resource it is. As of now, it seems pretty bare bones.
I've decided to give a try. We never know... One positive thing is you can show as much as you want of your script.... They want to create a kind of InkTip double. My only question is how could they have the same reputation? We'll see...
I think if he'd actually read it, he might not have sent me that e-mail!
With the opening you created in CEASM (Hey that looks cool!), I would definitely give you praise too, and not to drum up business on a site.
When I think of your script, I definitely can still feel the vibe of the opening. That's what grips me the most.
And I know you wanted to go all out with the gruesomeness, but for me, that's not what I remember. It was the essence and feeling of the opening. I can relate to it on very many levels.
Sites like these pop up every now and then with personal solicitations to various SS members. I'm not sure what makes this one any different than, say, SS, except for that it provides a little more exposure for your script at a different website. Anyone remember Media Killer from a few years back? I think they were the ones who actually took SS scripts and posted them on their website without the writer's permission. They still gave the writer credit, but at least this guy is asking for permission beforehand.
Yeah, he came asking me about 'One Last Christmas'...I'm personally fond of that script (because of the story behind its completion) but when I announce my presence as aspiring screenwriter to the world, I want something a bit less flimsy to back it up!
So Jeff and Michel, how does joining work? Do you join 'with your script', or is it more like SS?
After only one day, I received a message from Circalit:
"An anonymous Circalit member has just left a rating for your screenplay 'My Angel'
Their average rating was 9.2/10.
Here is the score they gave for each of the rating categories:
- Concept: 9/10
- Story: 10/10
- Characters: 9/10
- Structure: 9/10
- Dialogue: 9/10
They also wrote the following comments/feedback for your screenplay:
'I thought this was a beautifully written, well- thought out story. I really like the concept and you went about it in a really unique way. Characters we\'re great and the dialogue spot on. I\'m going to give it another read and I\'ll post any further comments on your wall, but i just wanted to write this before i forget '"
I only posted 40 pages, but the feedback sounds quite cookie... It could fit to any script and there's not one direct quote to my story... Is it some kind of hook?
Well, I don't know. Maybe I'm just too suspicious???
you just register i believe, which kind of contradicts the "exclusiveness" of the email i got. i was kind of excited when i got an email but i didn't know so did everyone else, haha, i should have known! the site seems a little fishy right now but i think it could be something great over time, it's got some good features i like only showing 45% of my screenplay and how people can give it a rating.
you just register i believe, which kind of contradicts the "exclusiveness" of the email i got. i was kind of excited when i got an email but i didn't know so did everyone else, haha, i should have known! the site seems a little fishy right now but i think it could be something great over time, it's got some good features i like only showing 45% of my screenplay and how people can give it a rating.
It's not open at the moment. I just sent a request for an invite to see what it's all about, but it's definitely in closed beta right now so I may not get one. From what I gather, the people getting invites are those who have posted work recently.
After only one day, I received a message from Circalit:
"An anonymous Circalit member has just left a rating for your screenplay 'My Angel'
Their average rating was 9.2/10.
Here is the score they gave for each of the rating categories:
- Concept: 9/10
- Story: 10/10
- Characters: 9/10
- Structure: 9/10
- Dialogue: 9/10
They also wrote the following comments/feedback for your screenplay:
'I thought this was a beautifully written, well- thought out story. I really like the concept and you went about it in a really unique way. Characters we\'re great and the dialogue spot on. I\'m going to give it another read and I\'ll post any further comments on your wall, but i just wanted to write this before i forget '"
I only posted 40 pages, but the feedback sounds quite cookie... It could fit to any script and there's not one direct quote to my story... Is it some kind of hook?
Well, I don't know. Maybe I'm just too suspicious???
Michel
Sounds cookie to me, and 9.2 is an absurd score for ANY script.
I didn't get an invite! but i managed to get myself onto the site It does look premature (probs why its still closed to public), but i like that screenplays can't just be copied and downloaded by anyone, and that writers have control of who views them. Like all these things time will tell - but its free so no complaints!
Believe it or not I also received an e-mail from Circalit. I was a little curious of how I selected to be sent an e-mail concerning this new site. Now I see virtually everyone was sent one. I did join, however, but I have not received any rating as of yet on the one script I posted. So as of yet I can't say anything good or bad about the site. Marvin.
I have just read one of the tops rated scripts on circalit and it was far from what other people say it is. Good story line, well written, blah blah blah...in truth it wasn't terribly bad, but the the action and dialogue was clunky in many parts , plus the writer started every action sentence with she this or she that. I have yet to see a comment with the script title or anything from the script in it.
I've even seen good comments on scripts with terrible formatting and scripts that only show the title page and block out the story.
Right now my will for being a member of this site is faultering and I'm not being bitter because my script has no reads yet, from the other comments I see I doubt I'm missing out on much, may as well replace the comment tab with a checkmark and an "X" because they seem to be worth the same.
I signed up for this last week, and figured I'd chime in here with my thoughts on it so far, which is that it's pretty much Triggerstreet light.
Scripts are ranked based on some formula consisting of the number of fans, and I guess comments received. Can't be too sure how it works, but my script got a few fans and a review that consisted of "Hilarious!" and now it's the # 2 rated script on the site.
There's no differential between shorts and features, they're all lumped together and ranked accordingly.
The highest rated script at the end of the month gets a 3-5 page analysis from The Script Factory, and apparently production consideration. I think this makes it hard to not recruit your buddies to sign up and become a fan of your script.
I don't know, if you wanna check it out, check it out, but since there's not much feedback to get there, the only benefit would be to see if my fanbase theory is correct. And that's not a benefit to anyone but me unless we all banded together on a monthly basis.
I "debuted" at #s 3 and 4 after Alffy and Craig posted reviews. I've slid steadily down the top 20 ever since.
This site is a bit too facebooky for me. What's to prevent anyone from getting their friends to pad their stats with tens and/or sabotaging the top scripts at the last minute?
I suppose we can form a coalition here to catapult one pre-chosen SS member to the top of the charts each month, thereby gaining him/her the free coverage... ?
I'm down to #12 and #18, Mike, you've slipped to #3 and Phil you're at #9...
Rally the troops, people...
The guy at # 2 gave me some decent feedback. I haven't been able to look at his script yet, but I'd imagine it's in pretty good order as far as that's concerned since he's a working writer.
The guy at # 1 is full of shit and has his buddies signing up.
And I found the token "nose in the screenwriter's bible" reviewer. Hope he doesn't get around to reading mine any time soon.
I just visited the site to vote for some of you, but then didn't think it would be fair to pick favourites.
So I voted for the current number 1 a thousand times instead. To be fair, he's probably a lot better than you all anyway. No-one gets to the top without genuine talent.
I just visited the site to vote for some of you, but then didn't think it would be fair to pick favourites.
So I voted for the current number 1 a thousand times instead. To be fair, he's probably a lot better than you all anyway. No-one gets to the top without genuine talent.
Damnit, I knew the first page of my script needed more Jimi Hendrix!
So I voted for the current number 1 a thousand times instead. To be fair, he's probably a lot better than you all anyway. No-one gets to the top without genuine talent.
I'm happy to rate your scripts or become a fan or whatever....don't really "get" the whole concept though.
I haven't totally figured it out yet, but rankings are based on more than just fans. I'm currently ranked ahead of a script that has more fans than mine.
Granted, this probably makes the situation worse, as #1 probably got a lot of friendly 10s.
I haven't totally figured it out yet, but rankings are based on more than just fans. I'm currently ranked ahead of a script that has more fans than mine.
Granted, this probably makes the situation worse, as #1 probably got a lot of friendly 10s.
Well let us know when you've worked it out so I can make my efforts count.
I've added the faces I recognised as friends and became fans of the work.
Here's their tips for getting your screenplay in the #1 position:
1) Make yourself heard! Whether it be in group discussions or by reviewing other screenplays – people won’t get to see your screenplays if they don’t know who your are. Swapping reads with other users is also an excellent way to gain feedback and increase your fan following.
2) The bigger your social network the better, make friends and comment on their screenplays. Circalit is first and foremost a community and it offers you the chance to build up a following for your screenplay, so take advantage of this by making lots of friends.
3) Make use out of all the social networking features to share screenplays on other social networking sites such as Facebook and Twitter. All you have to do is press the link for the desired social network and the screenplay will be automatically shared on your profile. This can greatly increase your screenplay’s readership and fan following.
4) Market your screenplay: make your log line and synopsis as inviting as possible, be sure to upload a good image to represent your screenplay and make it stand out from the masses.
I can't read the screenplays. There's just a little window at the bottom of the page where I can see a line at a time. Do I really have to buy Scribd to read them?
I can't read the screenplays. There's just a little window at the bottom of the page where I can see a line at a time. Do I really have to buy Scribd to read them?
Can't maximise it or move it.
That's weird, I haven't had any problems with it. Do you get a "full screen" option next to the buy link?
Okay, so I scanned the first couple of pages of the script in first place (who's up to 33 friends, btw), and it's not going to get good coverage, IMO...
Littered with camera shots, "we see"s and weird things in CAPS. I can see how novices would be attracted to the script because it's written in a very crash-bang style, and it starts off with (a) a dead body and (b) a strip club.
*yawn* cliche...
So yeah, this one will get cleared out with bad coverage, hopefully paving the way for Shelton, or Phil, or dare I say... lil' old me?
The 'Fan' system is just pointless and bizarre. Apparently the number of 'fans' that a reader has affects how many 'points' you get when they 'fan' your piece. (or something).
It's terribly flawed, and is almost as bad as the anonymous reviews they had before.
To quote the comment from the No 1 rated script (currently with 33 'fans' and precious little reviews)...
Quoted from Dave Clark (Circalit)
I took advantage of all the social networking tools you see on the left had side to share my screenplay with colleagues who then shared my link with other colleagues. I put in the work to get My screenplay specifically Read and Liked. I would advise others do the same for I don�t expect people coming here and signing up specifically to read My screenplay to take the time out their busy lives to read screenplays of other people without any type of introduction or knowing. Make any sense? I mean the reality is that you have to seek out and make yourself heard and force people to read your work or else who will?
If this is the first script that gets into the hands of the much mooted 'industry professionals', it will probably be the first nail in the coffin of Circalit.
It looks like the points system I mentioned yesterday is something that's currently in development, if that means anything to anyone. To me, I think it will be a big step forward.
The 'Fan' system is just pointless and bizarre. Apparently the number of 'fans' that a reader has affects how many 'points' you get when they 'fan' your piece. (or something).
It's terribly flawed, and is almost as bad as the anonymous reviews they had before.
To quote the comment from the No 1 rated script (currently with 33 'fans' and precious little reviews)...
If this is the first script that gets into the hands of the much mooted 'industry professionals', it will probably be the first nail in the coffin of Circalit.
Not necessarily. It depends on how you want it to work. It lessens its importance from an industry point of view perhaps, but the social networking aspects do have potential from other points of view.
It comes from a holiday in Greece one time. We were at a 24 hour bar where we knew the manager, a very cool, charismatic guy who would call everyone Cheetahs. Eg "Ah, you a happy Cheetah", or "She's a pretty Cheetah".
Anyway, a drugged up buffoon came up and asked him where the best place to jump off the roof was (The bar is directly next to the sea; However there is a kind of patio and then a large number of rocks in between the roof and the water).
The manager looks at him like he's mad and explains that it's too far to make it.
20 minutes later we hear the bump, bump, bump of this fool's feet on the roof. He flies through the air headfirst like Superman, arms straight out. Got an amazing distance....before landing on a huge rock jutting out of the sea. He hit it with such force that he bounced into the air off the rock.
The manager said "Ah, he a Bouncy Cheetah".
It always stuck with me because despite the severity of the incident it made me laugh for hours. The guy eventually crawled out with what looked like some severely broken ribs and a nasty gash in his side, but he just sat in a chair and carried on drinking...so he couldn't have been too bad.
One thing I noticed, when I uploaded my screenplay, I made a mistake by only allowing 40% to view. Is there any way I can change this to 100%?
Go to your screenplay page and click 'edit screenplay.' Scroll toward the bottom and you'll see the privacy options. Change privacy options to allow 100%.
Whether or not the winner is decided by the number of fans or by the average score that a script receives, the vast majority of the scoring is done by friends.
Ha! This could be viewed as 'Circalit coup', so proposing it on a public forum may not be the best plan!!
Andrew
It would only be an issue if something were at stake - like someone buying your script because you're king of Circalit. I don't think that's a possibility though, not at the moment anyway, probably not ever.
It would only be an issue if something were at stake - like someone buying your script because you're king of Circalit. I don't think that's a possibility though, not at the moment anyway, probably not ever.
Aye, true. I am tempted to join, just to help out the chaps on here. Don't really have anything worthy of consideration myself, though.
Mysterious (or not so mysterious) people are popping up and pretty much sabotaging scripts. It's the triggerstreet method, but doesn't involve as much work unfortunately.
I read some of the lead script and posted comments on it. The writer doesn't take well to criticism and posts nasty replies on the Bad Penguin script thread.
No shit, that's why I think I can take it if I get my fan count up. I'm getting good reviews for the most part.
Well Mike, I've lost track on this thread and don't know what's going on, but I'll say this:
I've never been a big fan of trying to "drum numbers". It's not what I do. (If I knew how to do it.)
To me it's all about a difficult and fine craft and a lot of personality generated into it.
Some people are lucky enough to have both the personality and the craft.
Lucky you, you're included in that happy-dappy group.
Reading work from certain individuals is like magic. They jump off the page and their words come to life. I won't mention names, but there are certain people here on Simply that can do that.
So--
I'll be the first to be serious here (though I might joke around a lot) and say our writers are raw, engaged, and outrageous. Some are even religious to the point of damnation.
I guess being a "not paid" reader, that's what I look for. People who give a shit.
Most of the people I see here on a regular basis most certainly do.
I read some of the lead script and posted comments on it. The writer doesn't take well to criticism and posts nasty replies on the Bad Penguin script thread.
What a tool.
Phil
Good job, Phil - you're telling the guy that spelling errors will bring his script down, and then you say that "The on-the-nose dialog makes it sound phone."
Mike,
Play for #2 this month, man (which you're not, anymore, btw). Let this kid get his coverage and then in March the heavyweight scripts will fight it out.
Oh, and just an aside here about friends and fan totals - I have 6 cousins who live on Facebook, so if I wanted to win a popularity contest I can have hundreds of fans in a matter of hours...
Of course I can use the same power for evil instead of good. Just a message to gaijangirl2004 (wink wink, Phil).
I think the popularity thing is the only thing it's got going for it.
It gives you an easy option of embedding your script in places like Facebook. It may make your script more accessible to the general public, thus creating a nice wave of support that you can ride.
It's something worth trying to take advantage of, IMHO.
Good job, Phil - you're telling the guy that spelling errors will bring his script down, and then you say that "The on-the-nose dialog makes it sound phone."
Yeah, that is bad. But I didn't use a spellcheck like this guy claims he did in his script.
I just pulled my script from the site. The guy that wrote Devil's Instrument was allowed to post negative comments on the Bad Penguin thread, all while admitting that he didn't read it. At the same time, my review of his script (as well as all other negative reviews) were deleted.
I recommend that all other SS writers pull their scripts of and tell circalit why.
Play for #2 this month, man (which you're not, anymore, btw). Let this kid get his coverage and then in March the heavyweight scripts will fight it out.
I can live with the guy currently in the #2 slot being ahead of me. He's very active on the site.
I would recommend leaving him alone. In business and the film Industry, it tends to work out that if you criticise somebody, it just gives them more publicity and they'll get the benefit.
Better to use the site as an advertising resource than get involved in silly internet wars.
How much publicity can a new site generate? And, as someone else pointed out, when the people discover that the number 1 script is a bad one, that site wil lose all cred.
The site won't generate publicity - you can steer interested parties to the site as an accessible way to view your work. And the comments that others leave is good PR as well.
And the people who get to review the #1 script have to go to the first page to read it, right? Who knows how far they scroll down...
Wait, hold it, breaking news - it's all about haberdashery?
How much publicity can a new site generate? And, as someone else pointed out, when the people discover that the number 1 script is a bad one, that site wil lose all cred.
Phil
It's not the site that will generate publicity...it's you, for your own script.
The only good thing I can see about the site is in the mix of social networking with the script form.
The major problem with scripts is that no-one reads them apart from filmmakers or other script writers. This, in theory, makes it more accessible to the general public.
I don't think it's beyond imagination that someone like you could knock up a script with wide general appeal and then use networking sites to spread the word about it and build a clammer for someone to fund it.
Throw in some nice podcasts, nice photoshop mock ups (which you are already very good at)etc
Then stick up a proposal on that indie website where you ask for funding....name escapes me....IndieGoGo.
I think this should be looked at as an opportunity to showcase yourself not to the other writers on the site, but to your potential fanbase.
This is purely theoretical of course...but it seems an interesting idea.
My limited understanding of circalit was that it seemed to include better social networking options than most script sites, including the ability to embed scripts on facebook.
That's it really.
Hey, I'm not trying to convince you. Fuck it off if you don't like it.
To be fair, I don't know what Rick meant either...
I got the original email about Circalit, but didn't join. Having followed the progress of your experiences there, I have to say that at the moment there doesn't seem to be a particularly compelling case to join up.
Same with Triggerstreet, which I know Anthony's been trying - guess I'll just say here in SS City, where the grass is green and the girls are pretty!
Triggerstreet is just bizarre, man. My script is still in with 16 people for review, and I've not gotten a review in over 2 weeks.
Last thing I'll say about Circalit - while it's way too facebooky for me, it appears that the SSers who are on there got in on the ground floor of this thing, and it could pay dividends. I'm sitting at #4 and all the people who have so graciously read my feature on SS have agreed to weigh in over there for me.
So what have I accomplished? I've gotten SS exposure times two. Will I win anything? probably not. Will someone read my work on Circalit and be interested in me writing something on spec, as was the case here on SS? Maybe...
Okay, so there was a major shakeup over at Circalit as far as how they rate scripts...
I plummeted all the way from 4 to 18, Shelton slipped from 2 to 8 and Michel went from 3 to 7...
In better news, Alffy's short "The Chocolatier" jumped all the way to #2!
It's really too confusing how they rate these things over there now. I guess I'll have to become more active there so that I get more fans who have higher ratings...
Okay, so now the scripts rate based on how active your fans are - it actually hurts a script's rating to have too many inactive fans...
So I did a little experiment and became more active - and now Shelton's #1!
And I'm screenrider's only fan and he's #15, so I have good evidence that my recent "actiivty" has gone a long way... (0:
Guess all I can say is that any SSers who also have work posted at circalit should try to join more groups and post a bit more over there - then your "fandom" will be worth more...
Update as of now - the SSers are dominating the top 10!
Alffy - #1! Pete - #2 Mr. Blonde - #5 Shelton - #6 AJR - #9 Craig - #10
And it actually weighs down your script now if someone with a low "read" rating becomes a fan. To check your read rating, click on your profile and see how many stars are there...
Any chance I can trade a look at your 3 shorts for a look at Grand Avenue? You wouldn't have to read the whole thing - just enough for you to decide if you're a "fan"...
Of course, yeah, not sure, but i think you have read at least one of my three shorts I have on there, but anyways i will gladly read your entire peice, both comments and feedback will be given.
Terribly sorry but the review and feedback will have to wait till tomorrow due to site maintanence on circalit. Not sure when it will be up and running, but I'm too short on time to wait.
I'll add my comments to Grand Avenue on simplyscripts too.
Update - SSers now own the 2 through 7 slots, and also the 9 slot...
Key for everyone who has work posted there is to remain active in reading and reviewing others' work, because that gives you a higher reader rating, and when your fans get a higher rating, so does your work...
As I said to Ren in this thread earlier, winning is the best deodorant. Makes everything worth it.
But it's a lot of work. The site is really half reading, half politics - campaigning to have your script read.
I really want the win so that I can use it as a selling point in my queries and also to get the half dozen or so people who promised to read my feature to step up already...
I really want the win so that I can use it as a selling point in my queries and also to get the half dozen or so people who promised to read my feature to step up already...
Update - SSers now own the 2 through 7 slots, and also the 9 slot...
Key for everyone who has work posted there is to remain active in reading and reviewing others' work, because that gives you a higher reader rating, and when your fans get a higher rating, so does your work...
AJR
Things are definitely moving around a lot now. I was on the site this morning, and my script moved up two slots since then, and that's without anyone doing anything with it. Someone must be reading other stuff.
I glanced at the current # 1 script, and although it's a feature, I'd like to see someone else up there. That one still needs some work.
No, actually I meant independent producers and agents - what I would do is send them a follow-up e-mail letting them know that my feature was voted #1 and it will get the free read from the Script Factory...
Isn't this the site that's like Facebook? I had one of those once but never really did anything with it... Too much maintenance. Then again, when it comes to your work how much maintenance is too much?
I actually just fell to #3, tailbest - I think there's a quirk with the guy who just reviewed the #2 script in that he posted, like, 12 times on the wire, and I think that gave him a superhuman rating of 2 1/2 stars...
Things are definitely moving around a lot now. I was on the site this morning, and my script moved up two slots since then, and that's without anyone doing anything with it. Someone must be reading other stuff.
I glanced at the current # 1 script, and although it's a feature, I'd like to see someone else up there. That one still needs some work.
Mike,
The guy at #1 is a really good guy and very active on the site. I read his first act and gave him my comments in an e-mail. True, it needs work, but he's not a bad writer...
I fanned it a couple of weeks ago, partly because I appreciated that he was talking up GA for me and partly because he's so active there...
Lol. My bad. Was under my brother's account. Hate switching back and forth between them.
I wish there could be ties. I've love to see The Chocolatier go up this month, too.
Mr. Blonde / Sean / tailbest / whatever...
I e-mailed the owner of the site about splitting out shorts and features, and he really liked the idea. I'm not sure it will happen this month, but my sense is that Alffy will definitely get his moment in the sun...
I e-mailed the owner of the site about splitting out shorts and features, and he really liked the idea. I'm not sure it will happen this month, but my sense is that Alffy will definitely get his moment in the sun...
Oh, I'm sure.
On a long enough timeline, every script on there will get reviewed, one way or another.
Seems like a good idea though, because how do you really compare a full-fledged feature with a simple short? (Mastered alliteration, huh?)
I e-mailed the owner of the site about splitting out shorts and features, and he really liked the idea. I'm not sure it will happen this month, but my sense is that Alffy will definitely get his moment in the sun...
I could bombard them with 40+ shorts!
and let's hope for everyone else that Mr. Z don't decide to join!
I'm not gonna hold my breath - things are quite dynamic over there, and Alffy held the top spot for almost a week straight it seemed before the script that's now #2 unseated him...
I just signed up using my phone but only to hold my name as a place holder for now. I don't know if it's one of those only one name per site things but I'd be a miss if someone took my damn name.
Anyways, I'll check into it. The whole up and down thing I'm seeing with people's scripts seems like a bit too much stat tracking. Almost as if you're playing an RPG with your scripts. I dunno, maybe not. It seems like it's laid out well, though.
The guy at #1 is a really good guy and very active on the site. I read his first act and gave him my comments in an e-mail. True, it needs work, but he's not a bad writer...
I fanned it a couple of weeks ago, partly because I appreciated that he was talking up GA for me and partly because he's so active there...
No, I don't think he's a bad writer, and I know he's active since his name takes about 80% of the front page, I just think he could benefit further from uploading another draft. I glanced through your script as well (haven't read fully yet, but hope to soon) and I think yours should rate higher than his.
I think they should figure out a way to separate shorts and features in terms of rankings.
Thanks Andrew - fingers crossed, but I've seen weird things at that site, so I'll be on pins and needles until 10:00 am Thursday (yes, it's British time, and I've calculated it to the penny...)
And how do you like that guy telling you to eff off after you took the time to read his stuff?
You handled it great, though. Much better than I would have. Guys like that get my Brooklyn up, if you know what I mean...
I don't understand what his problem was. He only showed 40 pages of a 159 page script, poorly formatted, and lashes back at because I didn't read the whole thing and that I said his formatting was all wrong.
I kept my cool the first time, but when he claimed that the only thing wrong with his formatting was the only thing I pointed out (it's not neccessary to place an "A" in a slugline, example...INT. A COURTHOUSE rather then INT. COURTHOUSE) I lost all respect for the guy. The addition to his synopsis suggested that he was serious about his writing, but yet he was oblivious to his own errors.
He can call me and tell me whatever he likes, but I gave him a review that he is going to get many, many more times, for as long as he plays stupid.
There are some interesting characters on that site though.
On another note, has anyone recieved any interest in their scripts on that site?
Thanks, Lightfoot. I'm hoping as well, but my script isn't as good as others there so I'm kind of hoping for theirs to go first.
And, actually, I got an e-mail today about doing 12 Seconds, but I've been getting those since I put it on SS, so I'm not sure whether it's because it's up here or up there.
Seriously, though, that guy had no clue what he was talking about, so I'd say f*** him. Let him not learn anything and keep yourself in good standing. =)
Okay, I think it's time to push Shelton's "Pimp Juice" back into the top 10 and beyond...
Alffy and Brian M could use some help as well...
The key is to go there and increase your reader rating. Those who are already fans of Mike's, Alffy's and Brian's scripts who read other things can push the scripts up.
In a lot of cases you can do it by reviewing work you've already read here on SS, or by reviewing some shorts, which takes no time at all...
For my part I've recommended SS to a couple of the better writers on Circalit and they promised to check it out. They might then have an interest in reading work on Circalit posted by SS members...
Well I'm still in the internet limbo...damn SKY how long does it take to connect my phoneline! Anyway just wanted to say a big congtrats AJR for winning on Circalit. I enjoyed Grand Avenue hugely when I rwad it here.
Check out my scripts...if you want to, no pressure.
I've been there A. No internet land I mean. Bit dull and annoying at first. Take advantage. Unplug from the Matrix. The world still spins. And I wouldn't be holding my breath for that connection. Set your expectations low. I've been there with them. Hmmm.
I heard The Times and Murdoch are gonna start charging for news content online.
Quoted from Rupie Murdoch
Quality journalism is not cheap. The digital revolution has opened many new and inexpensive distribution channels but it has not made content free. We intend to charge for all our news websites.
Er yeah. Quality journalism? The Sun? The Times? Er. What? Good luck on that one Perty. You're gonna need it.
And for anyone that wants to read it, Tom Lazarus already weighed in with his review (thought I would get a bit more of a honeymoon period to enjoy the blush, but you have to admire promptness, no?)
Hey, from a guy as accomplished as he, I'll take that review!
I think there are one or two good sound bytes in there. Would it be wrong to quote him in an e-mail without his express permission? After all he did say what I'm saying he said, no?
I hope one of my shorts will win sometime, doubt i will have anything new uploaded for a good while though, work is sucking too much out of me these days.
And for anyone that wants to read it, Tom Lazarus already weighed in with his review (thought I would get a bit more of a honeymoon period to enjoy the blush, but you have to admire promptness, no?)
Congrats on winning, my good man. I feel really out of it lately, so I had to look into this whole "Circalit" thing. Sounds really cool. Good job.
Congrats on winning, my good man. I feel really out of it lately, so I had to look into this whole "Circalit" thing. Sounds really cool. Good job.
Thanks Matt - it was quite a rush to see GA so prominently displayed - still is, in fact. You should get "Douchebag" up there asap...
As for the critiques, well, they basically said the same thing - great characters and dialogue, funny and real, and lacking a bit in narrative structure. Lazarus though seemed to indicate that GA is close to being "very, very good", which I guess means that it's just "very good" at this point?
Not that I wouldn't want to re-write this at some point; I'm just wondering whether a producer would want to step in and get on board based on the strength of the characters, dialogue and the emotion of the story - the script does seem to provoke strong emotions in people - and then make suggestions as to what could be cut, or tweaked, or re-positioned, etc.
There's a British producer actively - and I mean ACTIVELY - pursuing British writers over there now. If I were British and I had work posted I'd get on quickly and actively start marketing it...
There is a guy who's looking for scripts dealing with different things, including Scotland and sectarianism. I'm actually kicking myself as I was going to write dealing with that matter set in Scotland as you need to deal with sectarianism in Glasgow every day, even if you don't care about football. I didn't write it because I didn't think anybody outside the UK would understand it. That would have been perfect.
I've still not wrote a script set in the UK. Gutted, but I've only got myself to blame, I suppose.
Alffy, when you're back online, throw Pub Lunch his way.
Sounds like Circalit isn't the place for me then. I can only imagine what they'd say if I got a hold of some of those pieces of shit.
I always amazes me how people think scripts that totally suck are good. Truth is, very few scripts are good, and that includes Pro scripts that get made into movies.
Oh, I posted a couple fairly critical reviews, and one of the guys I reviewed posted:
"I didn't know we had Robert McKee on Circalit doing reviews of members work."
"Sorry folks, it not Robert McKee, it's just someone acting like him. Go back to what you were doing."
Perhaps it wasn't aimed at me, but seeing as I just reviewed his work, I'm guessing it is.
Yes... you have to tread lightly over there... some people can't handle honest feedback that can only help. I only return reads to the one's who've read my work in the past.
Anyone needs a fan vote... just let me know... done deal.
I only return reads to the one's who've read my work in the past.
Yeah, I'll probably just take that route or just ditch the site altogether. I'm not really in the mood to go out of my way to read script and then feel like I have to write sugar-coated reviews. I feel like I was constructive in what I wrote, but apparently the writers did not mirror my feelings.
Quoted from Dreamscale
Sounds like Circalit isn't the place for me then. I can only imagine what they'd say if I got a hold of some of those pieces of s***.
And Jeff, I'm pretty sure they'd have to shut down the site if you started reviewing. I don't think they could handle it.
Yeah Matt, I forgot to tell you it's a kinder, gentler board, that Circalit...
And you need to loved in order to win... (0:
Tricky stuff, running in between the raindrops. I've given negative reviews in which I also mention some positives, but if I open a script that pretty much totally blows I just shut it and I don't review it.
I can't even figure out WTF is going on at that site or how to use it. Am I that stupid or what?
I just logged on for the first time in months and had all these friend requests. I accepted the ones I knew, and didn't do anything with the ones I didn't know. I'm assuming Kaisersousa is AJR, right? What's the deal with the friends thing, anyway?
I also just joined some group called Butcher's Block, where it says something about honest reviews.
Should I try and get acquainted with the site or ditch it altogether? I don't even understand how to read or review scripts, where they are, how to chat with anyone...damn, I sound like I'm computer illiterate!
I didn't take up the offer to join the site, and thought I'd made the right choice since for a while it sounded like a total mess. To those who've made themselves regulars over there - is it worth joining up? Is it a more useful community than SS? Less useful? It seems to have worked for Anthony...how have others found it?
I'd never leave SS, of course. Just wondering if there's a big screenwriting party going on somewhere and I made a mistake by not RSVPing.
They do seem to be a little sensitive over there regarding reviews.
I didn't like the way someone asked me to trade a fan rating for any of his scripts. I'd only rate a script if I thought it was good, not to climb the leader board just because of trading fan for fan scripts.
How will you ever know if that particular script is any good?
The rating system and climbing the ladder board sucks.
I never took them up on the invite either. Got an e-mail not that long ago about them upgrading the site and how it's so much better now.
I haven't been there in months, but from what I saw initially and read from you guys here, I think I strongly dislike the fan/vote system. Sounds almost like "who's the most popular in high school". If the members can't take honest criticism on top of that then I know it's probably not for me.
I hate popularity contests for writers. That is largely where the anonymous One-Week Challenge came from. Nobody has to worry about sucking up to anybody.
If I got a review over there, I would not feel like I could trust it -- so I am hard-pressed to invest the time making a "name" over there.
No site is perfect, but those who can take their lumps are better-suited to a site like this.
Having said all that -- I might still put my SoulShadows over there if the rest of you guys are going to do it.
I have to say Bert that I was skeptical at first and I still take all the praise - and some of the criticism - over there with a grain of salt, but there are some pretty good writers at Circalit...
(Another person who uses the name) gh0stwr1ter happens to be my favorite there. I recommended SS to him and he said he'd check it out...
I do think that the talent at SS is better, though Circalit is starting to attract some writers with IMDB credits. They're just not the active ones as they're there waiting for a producer to contact them.
And it is a game - call it American Idol for screenplays or what have you. But I think it's all worth it in the end because you're not there so much for true opinions from the other writers - you're there to win the prize and get the opinions of professionals, and hopefully through that get your work noticed.
It's not to say that other writers there don't have helpful things to say, because they do. But nothing replaces SS for honest and unbiased critiques.
No, but nothing in Anthony's post mentioned credibility, and that statement was prefaced by him saying that the talent at SS is better in his opinion, which I agree with.
No, but nothing in Anthony's post mentioned credibility, and that statement was prefaced by him saying that the talent at SS is better in his opinion, which I agree with.
Yes... you have to tread lightly over there... some people can't handle honest feedback that can only help. I only return reads to the one's who've read my work in the past.
They do seem a sensitive bunch over there.
I've had a few comments deleted that weren't actually that negative. I just put what I thought, good and bad and they remove the feedback.
One writer actually removed his script from the site because I didn't like it.
It sort of makes you wonder whether you're just wasting your time actually sharing your thoughts. I agree what was said earlier- if I open one on there that I don't like, I close it and don't comment.
Quoted from Ghostwriter
Anyone needs a fan vote... just let me know... done deal.
Ghostwriter
Hey ghostwriter, if you (and anyone else, for that matter) were to become 'fans' of my short 'heavenly intentions' and my teleplay 'spiritual connections' over there it would be greatly appreciated.
Hey ghostwriter, if you (and anyone else, for that matter) were to become 'fans' of my short 'heavenly intentions' and my teleplay 'spiritual connections' over there it would be greatly appreciated. no problem.
Likewise if I can ever return the favour. No need to return the fan votes... I'm rarely over there and I'm not interested the rating system.
Ok I've joined up and will be posting my soulshadows episodes in the next day or so.
Quick question: What's a wire? Someone wrote on mine and I have no idea what it is or where it is? I see no comment anywhere
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Nevermind, I found it. Right at the bottom of my profile page there's a comment from the site administrator. The site's pretty well layed out apart from that part of it.
I'll take a look when I get home mate - just about to finish work.
I've posted my two Soulshadows scripts, Small Change and Big Stakes but I'm going to post my newest one - 'The Iceman' - when I get home. If you were going to read one I'd prefer that one.
Cheers
p.s. The email notifications are a bit hit and miss aren't they?
I fly blind at work because Circalit doesn't get through the firewall somehow, so give me a reminder on my wire there and I'll have a look over the weekend...
Looking at JobOnline (which is the University of London's careers / job vacancies database) to scout out a potential part-time job for the summer, and look what vacancy came up near the top of the 'Recently Posted' list:
Web Developer
Recruiter: Circalit Salary: £15/hour Location: Camden Job sector: System.String[] Job type: Fixed term contract Date posted: 02/04/2010
We are an innovative London based start-up company looking for an experienced web developer who is ambitious, creative and hard-working.
Of course, it may be co-incidence, and a different Circalit. But what are the odds, eh? Unfortunately I'm not an experienced web developer...
Just joined. Didn't come around or anything. Greg has an interesting script up there and I joined just to read it. Seems like Facebook for screenwriters. Could be interesting. I'm gonna stick around and see what happens. I think I've got the skinny on what the crowd is like over there. Anything else I should know? I'm not reading all fifteen pages of this thread to find out.
I've received e-mails from other people, starting brand new writing circles. Atleast this one is free.
There's so many of these writers' boards now. I doubt anyone will look at the new ones
Phil
Exactly.
SimplyScripts is old enought to form a foundation deep in the Internet. If you type in "Scripts" into a web search, this is the first thing you'll most likely find.
When so many of these "boards" have sprouted only a few will actually live long enough to see a glimpse of hope. The rest, sooner or later, will die out and become ghost forums or people will just eventually scatter away.
While SimplyScripts is more likely to get a handful of producers, so do others.
What Am I Working On? Currently going back and forth with projects. (--) :
Reason why Rainforests are disappearing is because of all of the useless scripts Hollywood wants everyday.
Okay, time to rally again. Mike Shelton's feature is languishing at #5 and deserves to be higher.
For all those who are already fans, you can now boost the script by doing a review. For those of you who are neither, please check it out and do what you can - it's definitely worth it!
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