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Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 6:23pm Report to Moderator
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I'd be willing to let Timber hang around.  Timber in no longer a player character but I don't see why he can't figure into the ending.
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Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 6:25pm Report to Moderator
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But if Timber is a non-player character now, that also means we can kill him when anybody feels like it, doesn't it?
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Dreamscale
Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 6:27pm Report to Moderator
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Don't get too attached to old Timber...his days are numbered...and that number is less than 1.
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Sandra Elstree.
Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 6:44pm Report to Moderator
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I was extremely impressed with Ste's post before the kill. Not the kill though.

The Wolf character to me seems entirely pointless (now) and I don't know why he was brought in at all.

He's just a waste of space that could be used for other characters or story development.

I think my dreams should be erased regarding Wolf and Piscivorus because they serve no point at this time and they too just take up space.

It's disheartening when characters are brought in late in the game, you're asking yourself "why", work hard at giving them sincere purpose in the game, reading and studying their info, reading and studying relationships in the script etc... and they weren't of any consequence.

What did Wolf do in this game? Nothing. He was supposed to be leading them somewhere...

No. Sorry Ste, I really am, but I think you made the wrong choice. I really am sorry.

BUT, everything before the kill, (your first work) was excellent!!!

Sandra





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Dreamscale
Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 6:51pm Report to Moderator
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I am going to have to disagree with you, Sandra.  Of the 3 remaining characters, Wolf was the one who was the least important, brought the least to the table, and needed to go.

I like how only the 2 girls remain now.  Wait till you see what they're going to do after the torture porn scene with gratutitous graphic violence and nudity.  I think you'll apreciate Leona more once she sprouts her wings and turns into an Angel...of Death!  And Sam's arms will turn into machine guns.  Finally, Timber morphs into a giant Polar bear, capable of breathing fire.

Oh...so many possibilities!!!! I can't wait!
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Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 7:05pm Report to Moderator
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I am going to have to disagree with you, Sandra.  Of the 3 remaining characters, Wolf was the one who was the least important, brought the least to the table, and needed to go.



And this is why he shouldn't have been brought in at all-- and Timber too. It makes no sense.

If he was brought in at all, he shouldn't have all the shmancy character info. Just say he's a wandering mountain man. Sub-character-- that's it.






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Dreamscale
Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 7:10pm Report to Moderator
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I see what you mean, but I don't think his character was nearly as well developed as Leona or Sam...do you?  Which of the 3 characters did you think should have been killed?  Be honest...
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Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 7:14pm Report to Moderator
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I see what you mean, but I don't think his character was nearly as well developed as Leona or Sam...do you?  Which of the 3 characters did you think should have been killed?  Be honest...


I see your point. Completely. I don't want to see any of them go at this point.

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Dreamscale
Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 7:17pm Report to Moderator
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But if you had to choose 1 of them, it sounds like it wouldn't be Wolf.  So which one should have gone?
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Sandra Elstree.
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But if you had to choose 1 of them, it sounds like it wouldn't be Wolf.  So which one should have gone?


No, I think you're right. Wolf had to go because he was brought in late and because of that, he wasn't an important character. I he was, that should have been in the beginning of the show.

If I had to choose though? And it couldn't be Wolf? Let me go back and read and I'll come back with an answer.

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Sandra Elstree.
Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 7:45pm Report to Moderator
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Ok, I've went back and read several parts again with Samantha and with Leona.

If it weren't Wolf to go, I'd have to base my choice on character alone.

Leona, although entering earlier in the script, seems to be a far more passive character. We've seen her in the library for instance.

Samantha however, has made changes in her character. Early on I was complaining about how she was written up as crossing her arms in the back seat of the car and being portrayed in that kind of female stereotype, which is ok, but it's nice to see a little more than this sometimes.

I'd say she's more important than Leona then based upon her character development, the changes she's made, the damage she's done and her psychic abilities.

Between these two ladies, I'd have to pick Leona as the next victim.




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Dreamscale
Posted: February 2nd, 2009, 8:20pm Report to Moderator
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Agreed.

I'm going to kill off every character in my next post.  If jack can't live, no one can!!!

MWWWOOOOOHAHA!!!!!!
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I think killing Wolf was an excellent move. Maybe he *was* leading them somewhere. The fact that he is dead now only adds to the danger of their situation. They're without anybody to guide them while the other "faction" has two reptile-powered beings. What's gonna happen next?!?!

Don't say Wolf was a waste of space. There are still ways of salvaging their stories.

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hey guys,

I have to admit that I have not followed this "game", but I am curious. How do you guys feel about this collaboration? Has it been helpful/beneficial to your own writing? Do you think you will rewrite it into a final feature? Just curious.  

Thank you


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I really feel that Wolf had substance...howbeit short lived.  Wolf being the mountain man he was...was the perfect person to guide them to the falls...  You know...with such short instances to develop the characters, it's even mpore important to make the most in each scene we write.

I guess that is why I sometimes feel a disconnect from scene to scene...it's as if we are working independently of the scene and from each other sometimes...and don't embrace the entire opportunity to wrap things up...move things along and add creative aspects, leaving it open for more development for the one who follows.

I think over all...we have written a good first draft...with so much room to improve it.

I like our characters...and want to know more...see more...you know?

Don't be discouraged Sandra...with each turn someone has to be killed and right now I'm not done...I feel Sam has some things to do yet. I see the end clearly to this story...but I don't know what Cornetto has in his brain for the outcome...but man...is there a story to tell!   I don't even know when my next turn is...but I'm ready to go!

Jeff...think Kate Beckinsale...after all you gave me my red Barchetta!    The coolest car I've ever had...in real life or on the written page!   lol  

  



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